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Fedora Core 3 Released.
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Posted on 11/08/2004 7:35:38 PM PST by N3WBI3

Fedora Core 3 is now available from Red Hat and at distinguished mirror sites near you, and is also available in the torrent. Fedora Core has expanded in this release to four binary ISO images and four source ISO images, and is available for both x86-64 and i386. Please file bugs via Bugzilla, Product Fedora Core, Version 3, so that they are noticed and appropriately classified. Discuss this release on fedora-list.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Technical
KEYWORDS: fedora; linux
Many of the update in Fedora will work their way into RHEL 4.
1 posted on 11/08/2004 7:35:38 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: N3WBI3

Geez, I'm just installing Core 2. Nothing like being behind the power curve...


2 posted on 11/08/2004 7:37:01 PM PST by ricer1
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To: N3WBI3

Does Fedora ship with a busted Xine player like Suse? It's a pain in the ass for x86_64 users to get that working..Also, how well do they incorporate 32 bit plugins with default installed browsers?


3 posted on 11/08/2004 7:39:35 PM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: All

Note: If you x86_64 users want a "fixed" xine for DVD playback, I have RPM's....freepmail me..


4 posted on 11/08/2004 7:40:47 PM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: N3WBI3

Great. More bugs. Just when we were feeling comfortable with core2 and RHEL, they go and mess it all up again...


5 posted on 11/08/2004 7:41:41 PM PST by 302damnfast
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To: N3WBI3; Fedora

This thread has got your name all over it!


6 posted on 11/08/2004 7:41:49 PM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("For great justice...")
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To: ricer1

I know how you feel, My server at home was a C1, until they announced C1 was going to legacy... I put on C2 and now I up and have to update to C3..


7 posted on 11/08/2004 7:43:03 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: rdb3

ping


8 posted on 11/08/2004 7:45:01 PM PST by SteveH
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To: N3WBI3

I've been running C1 on a 533MHz laptop (no server processes running)... and it's a bit of a strain. I understand that C2 has rewritten code to speed things up a bit. That's why I'm interested in C2.


9 posted on 11/08/2004 7:48:34 PM PST by ricer1
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To: N3WBI3

We've been much happier with our older machines running RH9 with Legacy updates. There are also subscription services for updates outside of legacy, which are pretty reasonable. The newer stuff is buggy as all hell. The machines we've got running Fedora and RHEL are nowhere near as reliable as our older RH9 boxes. It's a shame really...wish they'd just left well enough alone. :)



10 posted on 11/08/2004 7:49:13 PM PST by 302damnfast
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To: 302damnfast
Great. More bugs.

C2 had some major hardware support issues (firewire, they have to fix that at the kernel level) but the final release of C2 did not strike me as very buggy (with the exception of X.org and language switching).

Just when we were feeling comfortable with core2 and RHEL, they go and mess it all up again...

If youre using RHEL and its under support why go to C3, for that matter if youre that happy with C2 why go to C3. If three test releases is not enough stick around on C2 its not going to legacy for more than four months and even after that there is full support through the fedora legacy project..

11 posted on 11/08/2004 7:53:05 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: All
I read Mandrake 10.1 OFFICIAL pwns!!!
12 posted on 11/08/2004 7:56:30 PM PST by KoRn
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To: ricer1
a 533 should be more than enough, how much memory (and video memory) does the system have? what are you trying to run on it?

Gnome and KDE can be a little fat (KDE was great until they got feature envy from the Gnome group) you may want to look into FVWM its a far lighter graphical interface with most of the features KDE and GDE provide. Or if youre really sick just use TWM ;)

13 posted on 11/08/2004 7:58:01 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: 302damnfast
The only issue I have had with a RHEL release is the NFS client on RHEL3. If your using NFS mounts check the useage because they can take the system down.

I was never too fond of 9 myself, I was a huge fan of 8. But we do have some 9 and some 8 boxes running around (using the legacy) and they do run fantastic. When I was taking my RHCE cert course they explained that the move from RH9 to Fedora was a marketing thing and not done lightly. Basically people were getting RedHat and RHEL mixed up and problem with the one affected the others reputation.

They also had no intention of providing phone, or web support to RH users so they seperated out the line compleatly (FC1T1 was pretty much just RH9). Many of the problems have come about do to the move from XFree86 to Xorg. Even if they had stayed RH10 (or even 9.1) this still would have happened as XFree86 was starting tweak their licensing in a way that made it hard for distros to depend on them (is Suse/Mandrake using Xfree still?)

14 posted on 11/08/2004 8:06:05 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: KoRn
I used to love 'drake..But Suse grabbed me..It's smooth (outside the dvd license issues). I just really liked the intergration and how it acted after initial set up..Quite honestly, it saved me alot of time.
15 posted on 11/08/2004 8:12:02 PM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: N3WBI3
a 533 should be more than enough, how much memory (and video memory) does the system have? what are you trying to run on it?

If I remember, it only has 2Meg of video, and total ram is 192Meg. It has a 6G hard drive. The laptop is a Compaq Presario 1200 model. I've thought about lighter weight window manager...
16 posted on 11/08/2004 8:13:54 PM PST by ricer1
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To: ricer1

192 with Gnome might act a bit sluggish, take a look at fvwm (the link I provided has RPM packages for Fedora), I personally prefer FVWM 1.24, to FVWM2 but its because the config file is much easier, in FVWM2 you dont really need the config file..


17 posted on 11/08/2004 8:16:13 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: KoRn

Mandrake has never struke me as anything but a weak version of RedHat. The features I have seen that are above and beyond are the dual boot installiation support and the ease of setup. RHEL/Fedora can get a bit involved if you ant to do something like that..


18 posted on 11/08/2004 8:17:52 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: N3WBI3
I agree on your point. I use Red Hat at work for the firewalls, but Mandrake at home. If you have a good platform with Redhat all you have to do is turn it on and it runs without issue.

Still, my email firewall even with 9GB of RAM it gets a little sloppy after a week and I have him reboot every Monday morning at 3AM so he gets off to a good start for the week. I don't think having to reboot is a problem with Redhat's design. My firewall processes 15,000 emails in a week and he blocks 13,000 of them on average. I'd say that's asking alot lol.

19 posted on 11/08/2004 8:29:50 PM PST by KoRn
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To: N3WBI3

Just asking. Mandrake has "urpmi", Suse has yast (BSD has ports), what does FC3 have for package mgmt these days? (curious).


20 posted on 11/08/2004 8:30:26 PM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: N3WBI3
192 with Gnome might act a bit sluggish, take a look at fvwm (the link I provided has RPM packages for Fedora), I personally prefer FVWM 1.24, to FVWM2 but its because the config file is much easier, in FVWM2 you dont really need the config file..

I'm running KDE, which might explain some of the slowness. Thanks for the link, I just downloaded it and grabbed a theme rpm as well.

Is the transition fairly easy to do?
21 posted on 11/08/2004 8:36:59 PM PST by ricer1
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To: KoRn
Im assuming youre using the bibmem kernel right? The other things to look at are obviously swap space, and disk arrangement. A hardware raid, or at the very least a software raid 1+0 (Stripe of Mirrors) and some good speed disk (the smaller the disk (and the higher the number) the better.

but 13K blocks a week is less than 2K a day, thats only about two a minute you should be able to handle that with far less than 9 gigs. You could be bound by something other than memory. If I may ask what product are you using to do the filtering?

22 posted on 11/08/2004 8:37:35 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: ricer1

Depends I am sure there is a 'gnome-ish' theme out there but I find the closer a theme is to something else the harder it is to use. FVWM is very easy to use, its just a bit harder to initially configure..


23 posted on 11/08/2004 8:38:51 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: Michael Barnes

The default in Fedora is YUM, I dont have 3 running yet (its on torrent right now) but after a bit of pissing and moaning after not having RHN yum has grown on me.


24 posted on 11/08/2004 8:40:22 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: N3WBI3

The program that does the email filtering is custom made, and very well done. Our finding show that for some reason part of X is running even when the GUI is off and we can't stop it. It causes the system to lag after about 10 days.


25 posted on 11/08/2004 8:43:14 PM PST by KoRn
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To: N3WBI3

I'm looking forward to trying Mepis. Its a new Debian distro that's taken hold on the internet. Check out http://www.pointandclicklinux.com for more details.


26 posted on 11/08/2004 8:43:23 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
uh-huh..one of those apt-get guys..I see how it is...

;)

27 posted on 11/08/2004 8:50:46 PM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: KoRn

Are the X processes being spawned by init?


28 posted on 11/08/2004 9:32:26 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: N3WBI3

Hmmmm. Halo 2 was shipped tonight.

The timing is suspect.


29 posted on 11/08/2004 10:00:15 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Got Wood?)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

[Fedora consults his intellectual property lawyers to see how much he can get out of this thread. . .]


30 posted on 11/08/2004 11:21:17 PM PST by Fedora
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To: N3WBI3
I'm gonna try it. My issue with FC2 was the kernel. The Promise RAID controller support in the 2.6 series was broken until (I heard) 2.6.8.1. Since FC3 uses 2.6.9, it should work.

(fingers crossed)

31 posted on 11/09/2004 5:14:06 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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