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Elders 'Beat Children At Mosques' (UK)
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11-12-2004 | Nick Britten

Posted on 11/11/2004 6:42:02 PM PST by blam

Elders 'beat children at mosques'

By Nick Britten
(Filed: 12/11/2004)

Police and child protection officials have launched an investigation into allegations of child abuse at two mosques in the West Midlands.

Around 40 schoolchildren are to be interviewed over claims that they have been subjected to violence and punishment by elders at the mosques, which are on adjoining roads.

The investigation was sparked last month when the mother of an eight-year-old boy complained to the police that a mullah [teacher] had slapped her son on the back and made him lie face down before putting his right foot on the boy's back, leaving him with chest pains for more than 24 hours.

As word spread that an official complaint had been made, more children from the area came forward to report beatings and abuse which, the youths say, include being hit, slapped and even beaten with a hockey stick.

As the number of allegations grew, officers from West Midlands police called in the NSPCC to help deal with child protection and other welfare issues.

Police have been forced to tread lightly as elders and mullahs at mosques are among the most respected and influential people in the community.

Relations with the Muslim community in the area are fragile and police officers are aware of the difficulty they face getting evidence as often local people are reluctant to talk.

A source close to the inquiry said: "There is a cultural problem to deal with.

"People here are very concerned about doing anything that will bring disgrace on their community or the mosques, and are often ostracised if they speak out. Some parents find it acceptable for the mullahs to chastise children physically, while others who don't are too fearful to speak out.

"Community leaders close ranks and are not slow to claim persecution or racism by the authorities.

"They have a great deal of control over children and adults, especially the men.

"But it is the duty of the police to act if there are allegations that children are being routinely beaten."

The majority of Muslim children attend the mosques for two hours every day after school to learn about the Koran.

After the eight-year-old boy's mother complained - an allegation that has since been withdrawn - word spread quickly.

The source said: "They started coming out of the woodwork.

"From what we can gather it appears that it has been going on for a long time but until now no one has made an official complaint."

Police are expected to begin interviewing the children next Tuesday, following the end of the holy festival of Ramadan, which they were keen not to interrupt. They declined to comment officially but sources said arrests were "imminent".

A spokesman for the NSPCC said that it would not comment on an ongoing investigation.

Last month a morality teacher at a mosque in Peterborough was jailed for four months for beating one of his pupils with a stick.

Mohammed Abdullah, 44, flew into a rage after finding a picture of a caveman in the boy's exercise book on which someone had pencilled in a penis and beat the boy around the neck.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beat; children; elders; mosques

1 posted on 11/11/2004 6:42:03 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

but, but, It's a Religion Of Peace...............


2 posted on 11/11/2004 6:43:13 PM PST by cmsgop ( GLOAT? , YES PLEASE!!!!!!)
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To: blam

ROPMA


3 posted on 11/11/2004 6:43:19 PM PST by waterman478
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To: blam

This could be trouble. Luckily, it's a peaceful religion.


4 posted on 11/11/2004 6:44:56 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: blam
Teacher At Mosque Is Jailed For Beating Boy With Stick
5 posted on 11/11/2004 6:46:27 PM PST by blam
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To: AppyPappy
Wait until you find out what is permitted in Islam.

Get your kids out of there ASAP.

6 posted on 11/11/2004 6:47:11 PM PST by weenie (This is a war between the forces of good and evil. Humans are only pawns.)
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To: blam
Police have been forced to tread lightly as elders and mullahs at mosques are among the most respected and influential people in the community.

I don't care how respected they are, if they were Christians in America SPANKING their children the kids would be in foster care and the parents or elders in jail.

But because it's Islam and the mullahs are "respected and influential" a the police will "tread lightly."

Ridiculous.

7 posted on 11/11/2004 6:48:14 PM PST by JanetteS (My heart is as light as a song!)
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To: AppyPappy
THE REAL DEAL:


8 posted on 11/11/2004 6:50:14 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Then I say unto you, send men to summon ... worms. And let us go to Fallujah to collect heads.")
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To: Diogenesis

Trust me. It's worse than that.


9 posted on 11/11/2004 6:54:42 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: JanetteS

Damn right! My fiancee and I were investigated for child abuse because the school nurse saw a bruise on her daughter`s shin. Her daughter told the nurse what happened but it didn`t matter. How many have kids under 12 that get skinned knees and bruised shins? It was determined to be unfounded and the record was expunged, but what a stressful experience! Respected in the community or not, they (the mullahs) have to be accountable just like anyone else.


10 posted on 11/11/2004 6:55:01 PM PST by infidel29 (America is GREAT because she is GOOD, the moment she ceases to be GOOD, she ceases to be GREAT- B.F.)
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To: blam
Take A Look At This!

From This Thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1274364/posts

(What else do you expect from these scumbags?)


11 posted on 11/11/2004 6:57:20 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: cmsgop

We need to let Janet Reno save those kids.


12 posted on 11/11/2004 7:04:02 PM PST by correctthought (Hippies, want to change the world, but all they ever do is smoke pot and smell bad)
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To: blam
Ah, yes. Maybe the Islamic incursion into Europe can be stopped by having the Nanny-staters get after them.

Notice the double-standard when it comes to intruding on Islamic practices, "Police have been forced to tread lightly..." If this were a Christian sect in the UK, the police would be in there so fast, the followers' heads would be spinning.

13 posted on 11/11/2004 7:23:34 PM PST by Roy Tucker
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To: correctthought

Funny. And sad.


14 posted on 11/11/2004 7:24:32 PM PST by Roy Tucker
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To: JanetteS

>I don't care how respected they are, if they were Christians >in America SPANKING their children the kids would be in >foster care and the parents or elders in jail.

House of Prayer here in Atlanta. Same thing, adults in jail, kids in orphanage and foster homes. Oddly enough, a caretaker at the orphanage was jailed for beating one of the kids removed from thier homes for this in the first place.


15 posted on 11/11/2004 7:39:07 PM PST by sandbar
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To: blam

Morning bump.


16 posted on 11/12/2004 8:30:39 AM PST by aculeus
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