Repeat after me, Keith "Kerry was trounced in every phase of the game"

Keith, I know that you or one of your lackeys trolls here. So, let me say...no hard feelings and...oh, yeah, go screw yourself.

Thanks, kid.

Nice work.

I can't figure out if Odorman is serious news or comedy ... so I don't watch.

I say we start a weekly gloat thread. Where we remind numerous media elites of Bush's win via email Fax and phone call on a weekly basis. My personal fave is Derrick Z. Jackson of the Globe, with Ron Fournier as a good follow up.

Commentary Ping

BTTT.

This sort of stuff is all over the net. here is a long piece by Edgar Steele offering much the same:

We've been had.

"It's amazing I won. I was running against peace, prosperity and incumbency."
--George W. Bush, June 14, 2001, speaking to Swedish Prime Minister Goran Perrson, unaware that a live television camera was still rolling

"You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays, everybody's crazy."
-- Charles Manson, serial killer and one-time cult leader

I'm glad that Kerry lost. However, I am horrified that Bush won. Or did he?

We get the government we deserve, it is said. What, exactly, did I do to deserve this? And I'm a conservative, too. Imagine how the liberals must feel.

For every person I know who voted for Bush, I know four who voted for Kerry or a third-party candidate, not to mention another six who didn't vote at all! But, then, I run in some unusual circles. Even so...

The Zogby Polls, which usually are pretty accurate, had Kerry winning a clear majority, not just a plurality, and sweeping the Electoral College. Exit polls, which are even more accurate, had Kerry winning going away, especially in the key "Battleground States" of Ohio and Florida, both of which inexplicably ended up in Bush's column at the end. I noticed that, for once, none of the network anchors really discussed either type of poll, though CNN has been accused of jiggering its report of exit poll results. In an excuse switch reminiscent of Iraq being blamed for possessing weapons of mass destruction, suddenly the blame for the voting-booth conversion to Bush is being placed upon the desire of the common man to stamp out homosexual marriage. As comedienne Judy Tenuta likes to say: "It could happen!" Yeah...right.

Dick Morris, ex Clinton political consultant, wrote an article for The Hill, read by a great many Washington insiders, in which he said, "This was no mere mistake. Exit polls cannot be as wrong across the board as they were on election night."

Yes, I called for Bush's ouster well over a year ago (IMPEACH BUSH NOW and Bush Must Go!), but I'm still pretty much a conservative. Aside from the lunatic-fringe Christian fundamentalist/dispensationalists, many conservatives started talking about Bush that way at about the same time. That's just paleoconservatives, however; we who predate neoconservatives, those who are but old liberal whine in new battles. That's why you should listen to my ilk more closely than the liberals who just upped their intake of Prozac, alcohol and a variety of other reality-altering substances. They would be railing against anything Republican or conservative just now. People like myself are a different matter altogether. And there are a lot of us. Which is why Bush's victory quite simply does not pass the smell test.

It seems clear to me that Bush didn't win fairly. I think Kerry actually won the election and allowed Bush to steal it. In retrospect, it appears to me that Al Gore did the same thing, albeit less abjectly than did Kerry. But, this time Bush got caught with his hand in the ballot box. I've just had a heel-of-the-hand-forehead-thumping "aha" experience. How could I, of all people, have missed something so obvious?

Yes, I have noted rampant vote fraud in the past and expected it this time, as well. I have witnessed it first hand at the local level. I have read many credible reports from others at all levels, concerning past vote fraud. Yet, I did not believe it was so blatant...so massive as what obviously just occurred. How could I possibly expect others to see it now if I didn't see it coming? How could I be so...dumb?

Now comes the hard part: How do we make clear that free elections in America were a thing of the past as long as four years ago?

It's a good thing that Kerry won't be in the Oval Office; but, another four years like we just had? America won't make it. On the other hand, that could turn out to be the good news, I suppose, for survivors of what America is about to become.

Bad as Kerry would have been, he would have been gridlocked by the Republican Congress. None of that for Bush, though, who has presided over the biggest runup in deficits and most criminal war that America has ever seen. Kerry could never have obtained the blank check for war that Congress handed to Bush - and will again. Expect the upcoming mid-term election in 2002 to produce more of the same miraculous Republican victories and give Bush the 60-Republican Senate edge that he needs to advance any legislation without danger of Democrat filibuster.

The smell left over from Election Day is bad enough, all by itself, but there is evidence, lots of evidence, of vote fraud on a scale not seen since the heydays of Communist Russia. Next we will see ballots with only one name appearing in each slot (given our "choice" of candidates, we essentially got there years ago, however).

How on earth did despicable Democrat Tom Daschle get beaten? Mind you, the only Senators I would be more pleased to see go are Hillary, Feinstein and the execrable Charles Schumer, but it seems extremely unlikely that Daschle's constituents would have voted him out of office in a fair election. Is it just coincidence that Daschle has been a particularly nettlesome thorn in George W. Bush's side for the past four years?

The problems in Ohio on election day are starkly outlined by attorney Ray Beckerman in his Basic Report from Columbus: "Touch screen voting machines in Youngstown OH were registering "George W. Bush" when people pressed "John F. Kerry" ALL DAY LONG." One precinct in suburban Columbus reported that nearly 4,000 votes were "accidentally" credited to Bush. Mr. Beckerman also reports that lines in predominantly-Democratic precincts were 5-10 hours in length, versus near nonexistent in Republican strongholds, for the simple reason that precincts expected to line up in the Republican column had five times as many voting machines as others. Beckerman outlines a number of other irregularities in one of this election's two key "battleground" states, the one that gave the election to Bush, just as Florida did four years ago with a healthy assist from the US Supreme Court. Is all of this simply coincidental in an election where the disputed votes decided the outcome?

The other key battleground state, Florida, reported similar problems: "(S)everal dozen voters in six states - particularly Democrats in Florida - who said the wrong candidates appeared on their touch-screen machine's checkout screen...In many cases, voters said they intended to select John Kerry but when the computer asked them to verify the choice it showed them instead opting for President Bush..." (Globe and Mail, 11/3/04). More coincidence?

But, the machines don't have to be obviously in error to be rigged. Ronnie Dugger, in How They Could Steal the Election This Time, several months ago described the November 2004 election machinery: "36 million (votes) will be tabulated completely inside the new paperless, direct-recording-electronic (DRE) voting systems, on which you vote directly on a touch-screen...you get no paper record of your vote...you never know, despite what the touch-screen says, whether the computer is counting your vote as you think you are casting it or, either by error or fraud, it is giving it to another candidate. No one can tell what a computer does inside itself by looking at it; an election official 'can't watch the bits inside,' says Dr. Peter Neumann, the principal scientist at the Computer Science Laboratory of SRI International and a world authority on computer-based risks...The four major election corporations count votes with voting-system source codes (which) are kept strictly secret..."

Even if they aren't obviously in error or secretly rigged, these new machines can still have their tabulations changed, with nobody the wiser. One of my favorite Internet columnists, Devvy Kidd, two weeks ago predicted "monstrous problems that will make Florida 2000 pale in comparison." Quoting from the December 1996 issue of Cincinnatus News Service, a vote fraud newsletter, Devvy went on to note, "The missing link in the vote fraud investigation has been found. The November 1996 issue of Relevance Magazine reveals that two-way hidden modems are being built into the ever growing number of computerized optical scanner/direct recording voting machines in use all across the country from New England to California...these hidden modems are accessible by remote cell phone technology...these voting machines can be accessed and manipulated from a central super computer without a phone line connected to the wall, and without the local precinct workers knowing that anything is happening at all." I wonder why Dan Rather didn't tell us about this?

Just look at all the "user login" notations in this rare audit log from Washington State's King County, where a number of voting tabulation irregularities are now under investigation. No notation is made, of course, of what those anonymous users did, once logged into the database. Go here for an interesting report and speculation about how and by whom the voting machines are being hacked - particularly, note the Republican connection through an attorney.

Diebold, Inc., is one of the country's biggest suppliers of paperless, touch-screen voting machines. Diebold's CEO, Walter O'Dell, wrote a letter four months ago soliciting major-league campaign contributions for Bush, in which he said, "I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year." Diebold is based in Canton, Ohio. Coincidence?

Convinced yet? I am.

This year apparently wasn't the first to see this new technology exploited, either. In "The Stolen Election of 2004: Welcome Back to Hell," Larry Chin reports on touch-screen "black-box" voting: "The technology had a trial run in the 2002 mid-term elections. In Georgia, serviced by new Diebold systems, a popular Democratic governor and senator were both unseated in what the media called 'amazing' upsets, with results showing vote swings of up to 16 percent from the last pre-ballot polls. In computerized Minnesota, former Vice President Walter Mondale - a replacement for popular incumbent Paul Wellstone, who died in a plane crash days before the vote - was also defeated in a large last-second vote swing. Convenient 'glitches' in Florida saw an untold number of votes intended for the Democratic candidate registering instead for Governor Jeb 'L'il Brother' Bush." More coincidence, do you suppose?

Now pay particularly close attention to the very next sentence from Mr. Chin's article: "A Florida Democrat who lost a similarly 'glitched' local election went to court to have the computers examined - but the case was thrown out by a judge who ruled that the innards of America's voting machines are the 'trade secrets' of the private companies who make them." So, the legal system steps in and removes any chance of our being able to audit what these things do. Coincidence?

And it's not just the touch-screen voting machines that are susceptible. CommonDreams.org's Thom Hartmann notes that "(I)n Florida's smaller counties the results from the optically scanned paper ballots - fed into a central tabulator PC and thus vulnerable to hacking - seem to have been reversed" (Evidence Mounts that the Vote was Hacked, Rense.com). Mr. Hartman's analysis shows that Florida would have gone to Kerry, had those small-county anomalies been more consistent with actual party affiliation registration by voters. Do you believe in coincidence? Did all those rural Floridian Democrats really vote for Bush, do you suppose? Florida, alone, would have changed the outcome of the election.

Also in Florida, the other key "battleground" state that was widely expected to go Kerry, the official election results of Palm Beach's (of 2000's "butterfly ballot" fame) disclosed that, while 454,427 people voted, 542,835 votes were tallied, a discrepancy of 88,000 votes. Shortly after this oddity was picked up and reported by The Washington Dispatch, officials inexplicably "found" over 91,000 additional absentee ballots which had, somehow, already been counted, thus balancing its own tally. More coincidence, I suppose.

Americans seem to believe that the world thinks as we do; that, somehow, Bush is viewed favorably. He is not, as vividly demonstrated by England's Danny Dayus in his article, Don't Be American: "According to recent opinion polls, a majority of people in the USA actually believe that most of the world favoured the re-election of George W Bush as president - this despite several surveys that suggest that support for Kerry over Bush in the wider world was something between a 2:1 and 10:1 ratio."

At left: George W. Bush in an increasingly typical pose. Talk about character. Can you imagine George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, John F. Kennedy or, even, Richard Nixon ever doing this publicly? Why is this man's obvious mental imbalance, intemperance and lack of propriety not apparent to every American? This is precisely the image of America now held by the rest of the world.

This election was a foregone conclusion, as some noted beforehand. Greg Palast, Harper's editor who investigated American vote fraud on behalf of the British Broadcasting System, reported on November 1 that upwards of one million votes, expected to be cast overwhelmingly for Kerry, would not be counted "(B)ecause, in important states like Ohio, Florida and New Mexico, voter names have been systematically removed from the rolls and absentee ballots have been overlooked—overwhelmingly in minority areas..." More coincidence, of course.

Houston, we have a problem. Many have taken me to task recently for advocating voting - just not voting for Democrats or Republicans - rather than pointedly not voting. In view of the massive and unprecedented vote fraud that now is apparent, my attitude concerning this is undergoing revision...and I'm leaning toward not voting. Of course, I'm having some other leanings, too - leanings that might get me put in jail, were I to share them with you.

Look - the people apparently disenfranchised this time around primarily are those with whom I generally disagree, but it is the fundamental unfairness of what has taken place that most offends me, not to mention the path down which America now treads. If I really believed this election showed the true color of conservatism, I would join the liberals in a heartbeat and replace my "Nuke the Whales" bumper sticker with one that says "Save the Baby Seals."

If this is what it means to be conservative today, I want to be liberal.

BTW, speaking of MSNBC, I’m sure that everyone who watches Joe Scarborough has seen his prominent display of the book RFK over his right shoulder when he broadcasts from his Pensacola home. Joe is swerving to the Left just like O’Reilly did.

Keith Odorman's show will be canceled by April.

Olberman is a punk.

He knows Kerry got thumped but since his ratings are already doing the backstroke in the toilet he's making a concerted effort to feed the marginally insane conspiracy theories so he can double his number of viewers and attract two more Unabomber-wannabes to tune him in.

The one to REALLY fault is PMSNBC . . . how any news organization could give a punk like him a microphone is beyond me.

Joe said the other night that he consideres himself very "progressive".

I missed that, but I did see where he called himself a "Libertarian." I guess his will be one more MSNBC show that I don't watch. In fact, I guess I'm down to Hardball.

Kerry offset his gains with the Hamster vote with losses from the Goose vote.

VERY nice work. I'm impressed.

Not only should this be understandable by Olberman, but most of us not-too-bright, pickup-truck-driving Bush voters can understand it too.

Go Steelers.

Wow! Great job.

Maybe this will speak to him where he lives.

But I doubt it. Ignorance is curable, but not idiocy.

That is an awesome way of presenting the electon results. The only thing missing was the square miles of this great land Bush racked up.

WHO GIVES A @#$!? Just count the provisionals and get it over with. Someone meant to vote for Kerry, let them vote for Kerry, why get rid of the votes on a technicality?

We won, they lost, the provisional votes should be counted, that's it. We don't need to win the sneaky way, count the votes and make them shut the #@%& up.

Sheesh.

Oh, and WHO CARES about all these damn statistics either? It doesn't matter. 51-48. That's it. It's a popular vote win, it's an electoral win, why beat the horse to death? It was fairly close but decisive. It wasn't a "trouncing", but it was a win.

There's not any more to say.

It was fairly close but decisive. It wasn't a "trouncing", but it was a win.

Actually, it was a trouncing when you consider that the rats pulled out all the stops on this election....Soros spent 27 million on lib propaganda, Rathergate and the forged memos, Abu Gareib 24x7 for 2 months, over a year of bad press for Bush and fawning press for the libs, October surprise involving Al QuaQaa that blew up in the rats face, etc.


State	Bush Pop. Vote %	Kerry Pop. Vote %	Electoral Votes	Winner	M.O.V.
Washington, D.C. Massachusetts Rhode Island Vermont New York Maryland Connecticut Illinois California Hawaii Maine Delaware New Jersey Washington Michigan Minnesota Oregon Pennsylvania New Hampshire Wisconsin	9.00% 37.00% 39.00% 39.00% 40.00% 43.00% 44.00% 45.00% 45.00% 45.00% 45.00% 46.00% 46.00% 46.00% 48.00% 48.00% 48.00% 49.00% 49.00% 49.00%	90.00% 62.00% 60.00% 59.00% 58.00% 56.00% 54.00% 55.00% 54.00% 54.00% 53.00% 53.00% 53.00% 53.00% 51.00% 51.00% 51.00% 51.00% 50.00% 50.00%	3 12 4 3 31 10 7 21 55 4 4 3 15 11 17 10 7 21 4 10	Kerry Kerry Kerry Kerry Kerry Kerry Kerry Kerry Kerry Kerry Kerry Kerry Kerry Kerry Kerry Kerry Kerry Kerry Kerry Kerry	81.0% 25.0% 21.0% 20.0% 18.0% 13.0% 10.0% 10.0% 9.0% 9.0% 8.0% 7.0% 7.0% 7.0% 3.0% 3.0% 3.0% 2.0% 1.0% 1.0%



Iowa New Mexico Nevada Ohio Colorado Florida Missouri Arkansas Virginia Arizona North Carolina West Virginia Louisiana Tennessee Georgia South Carolina Kentucky Mississippi Montana Indiana South Dakota Texas Alabama Kansas Alaska North Dakota Oklahoma Nebraska Idaho Wyoming Utah	50.00% 50.00% 50.00% 51.00% 52.00% 52.00% 53.00% 54.00% 54.00% 55.00% 56.00% 56.00% 57.00% 57.00% 58.00% 58.00% 60.00% 60.00% 59.00% 60.00% 60.00% 61.00% 63.00% 62.00% 62.00% 63.00% 66.00% 66.00% 68.00% 69.00% 71.00%	49.00% 49.00% 48.00% 49.00% 47.00% 47.00% 46.00% 45.00% 45.00% 44.00% 44.00% 43.00% 42.00% 42.00% 41.00% 41.00% 40.00% 40.00% 39.00% 39.00% 38.00% 38.00% 37.00% 36.00% 35.00% 35.00% 34.00% 33.00% 30.00% 29.00% 26.00%	7 5 5 20 9 27 11 6 13 10 15 5 9 11 15 8 8 6 3 11 3 34 9 6 3 3 7 5 4 3 5	Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush	1.0% 1.0% 2.0% 2.0% 5.0% 5.0% 7.0% 9.0% 9.0% 11.0% 12.0% 13.0% 15.0% 15.0% 17.0% 17.0% 20.0% 20.0% 20.0% 21.0% 22.0% 23.0% 26.0% 26.0% 27.0% 28.0% 32.0% 33.0% 38.0% 40.0% 45.0%



Total States Won States won (Bush) = 31 states States won (Kerry) = 19 states + Wash DC Highest Margin of Victory Largest margin of victory (Bush) = 45% (Utah) Largest margin of victory (Kerry) = 25% (Massachusetts) * Kerry won DC by 81% Average Margin of Victory (Gross) Average margin of victory (Bush) = 18.1% Average margin of victory (Kerry) = 12.9% * Not adjusted, with both candidates highest and lowest individual margins (i.e., the outliers) included Average Margin of Victory (Adjusted) Average margin of victory (Bush) = 17.2% Average margin of victory (Kerry) = 9.8% * Adjusted, with both candidates highest and lowest individual margins (i.e., the outliers) removed Most Double-Digit Wins Total double-digit wins (Bush) = 22 states Total double-digit wins (Kerry) = 7 states + Wash DC Fewest Single-Digit Wins Total single-digit wins (Bush) = 9 states Total single-digit wins (Kerry) = 12 states Most 20%+ Margin of Victory States won with more than 20% margin of victory (Bush) = 15 states States won with more than 20% margin of victory (Kerry) = 3 states + Wash DC Most 25%+ Margin of Victory States won with more than 25% margin of victory (Bush) = 9 states States won with more than 25% margin of victory (Kerry) = 1 state + Wash DC Average Popular Percent in States Won Average winning popular vote percent in states won (Bush) = 58.48% Average winning popular vote percent in states won (Kerry) = 55.90% Average Popular Percent in States Lost Average losing popular vote percent in states lost (Bush) = 43.00% Average losing popular vote percent in states lost (Kerry) = 40.35%