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Police Use of Stun Guns on Children Riles Parents(Officers Taser Boy, 6, and Girl, 12)
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Posted on 11/13/2004 1:40:34 PM PST by freepatriot32

MIAMI (Nov. 13) - Miami-Dade police have acknowledged using a stun gun on a second youngster just weeks after subduing a 55-pound first-grader with a 50,000-volt shock.

In the second instance, a 15-year-veteran officer used his Taser to immobilize a 12-year-old girl who was playing hooky from school.

Police Director Bobby Parker defended the decision to shock the 6-year-old boy on Oct. 20 because he was threatening to injure himself with a shard of glass he was holding, but he said Friday that he could not defend the decision to shock the fleeing girl, who was apparently drunk.

According to the incident report, officer William Nelson responded to a complaint that children were swimming in a pool, drinking alcohol and smoking cigars about 11 a.m. on Nov. 5.

Nelson said he noticed the girl was intoxicated and told her to get dressed so he could take her back to school.

"While walking the girl to the police car, she took off running through the parking lot," Nelson wrote in his report.

Nelson, 38, said he chased her and yelled several times for her to stop. Nelson said he pulled out the Taser and fired when the girl began to run into traffic. The electric probes hit the girl in the neck and lower back, immobilizing her with 50,000 volts.

Nelson said he fired "for my safety along with the girl's safety." Paramedics treated the girl, who went home with her mother.

Parker said department policy permits officers to use the Taser to apprehend someone, but he said he expected his officers to use better judgment, especially when police had no plans to arrest someone playing hooky.

The first incident had already exposed the department to more criticism for its use of Tasers, which it has begun distributing in greater numbers to officers.

"The police could have handled this better," said the 6-year-old boy's mother, Kathy Rojas. "They did not have to shoot him."

Parker said that, in light of the disclosure of the second incident, the department will review its policy.


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To: robertpaulsen

The parents won't care about the kids. It's a chance to make a little easy money that they will be concerned with.


21 posted on 11/13/2004 2:09:59 PM PST by tuffydoodle
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To: freepatriot32
Nelson, 38, said he chased her and yelled several times for her to stop.

Hmmm... gotta wonder about the beer gut on this slob. What 38 year old man cannot chase down a little girl? Come on! He shot her because he is too incompetent to control a little girl. What would he do with an adult male perp? Sheesh!
22 posted on 11/13/2004 2:10:51 PM PST by broadsword (Weren't there a couple of giant Buddhist statues in Afghanistan? What happened to them?)
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To: CindyDawg

LOL


23 posted on 11/13/2004 2:10:53 PM PST by tuffydoodle
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To: lucky7
and the police are limp wrist.

You'd better take that one back, mister.

24 posted on 11/13/2004 2:10:57 PM PST by JennysCool (1969'ers telling us how to run our government are like 1929'ers telling us how to land on the moon.)
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To: freepatriot32

The use of taser may have been out of line, but why was a 12 year old girl partying, drinking, and getting drunk?????? She is way too young to be drinking and getting drunk. Seriously, I don't quite get that.


25 posted on 11/13/2004 2:12:45 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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To: freepatriot32

She was drunk and the cops were going to take her to school?


26 posted on 11/13/2004 2:13:04 PM PST by Grig
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To: CindyDawg
"In the mean time, kiddie tazers?????

Sure. See my post here.

27 posted on 11/13/2004 2:13:22 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Grig

What? You think they should have taken her home? :')


28 posted on 11/13/2004 2:14:37 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: robertpaulsen

lol about MM


29 posted on 11/13/2004 2:15:19 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: tuffydoodle

:')


30 posted on 11/13/2004 2:15:49 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: freepatriot32
Miami-Dade police have acknowledged using a stun gun on a second youngster just weeks after subduing a 55-pound first-grader with a 50,000-volt shock.

Yeah, but after the six year old was tasered, it took 9 cops to subdue him, and five went to the hospital for minor injuries.

31 posted on 11/13/2004 2:17:39 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: JennysCool

Hey your showing me a tv cop joe friday, there on the west coast there limp wrist or gay.


32 posted on 11/13/2004 2:19:28 PM PST by lucky7
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Seriously?


33 posted on 11/13/2004 2:19:45 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

It's cold, rainy and a Saturday. My kids are lucky that I don't have a taser right now.

I'm so tired of refereeing fights that I may just have to leave and go shopping.


34 posted on 11/13/2004 2:21:00 PM PST by tuffydoodle
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To: Jeff Head
Exactly...it sounds like in both cases, the officers used what they had on hand to try and safegaurd these kids from themselves.

Perhaps.

As the mindset of the many police officers (a growing number) continues to be one of an occupying soldier instead of a peace officer, fewer and fewer citizens will give them the benefit of the doubt in the scenarios.

Futhermore, an increasing number of Americans are viewing the police in exactly the same way many of them act: like an occupying army.

35 posted on 11/13/2004 2:22:18 PM PST by Mulder ("The price of freedom is the willingness to do sudden battle anywhere and any time"-- Heinlein)
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To: HungarianGypsy
It's a catch-22 for police officers now a days. You're wrong if you do, you're wrong if you don't

Partly due to lazy citizens that don't do their part in raising their children, or supporting the true 'peace officers' in their community.

And partly due to the increasing numbers of JBTs becoming cops and bullying citizens, creating resentment among the populace.

36 posted on 11/13/2004 2:24:44 PM PST by Mulder ("The price of freedom is the willingness to do sudden battle anywhere and any time"-- Heinlein)
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To: tuffydoodle

Sarah Lee??? . I would need two Moore specials though. :')


37 posted on 11/13/2004 2:25:30 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: robertpaulsen
Regardless of whether the officer's actions were justified, the mother certainly wouldn't have lamented the officer not using the Taser. If the girl had been killed, the mother would have complained about the officer chasing the girl, but attributing the "If he would only have used his harmless Taser" line is not realistic. The person who more likely would have used that line would have been the spouse/parent of some innocent person killed in an accident if the girl darted into traffic and caused an accident.

We have incidents like these because our society is doing poorly. I don't have a ready answer to that problem. This officer shouldn't be punished if the event happened as described, and I don't know whether the policy needs to be reworked.

Bill

38 posted on 11/13/2004 2:27:30 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: freepatriot32

A 12 year old girl drunk, skipping school, running from cops. Just let her go . One day she will marry a wife beater and get what she has coming to her.

Kids like this grow up and blame all their problems on someone else.


39 posted on 11/13/2004 2:29:10 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: tuffydoodle

Later:'). Time for my lesson.


40 posted on 11/13/2004 2:29:16 PM PST by CindyDawg
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