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A look at Kinsey
townhall.com ^ | 11/15/04 | John Leo

Posted on 11/14/2004 11:16:15 PM PST by kattracks

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To: Motherbear

Being non judgmental doesn't make him a pedophile either. It might make him unethical ( which I would certainly agree with) and possibly amoral.


41 posted on 11/15/2004 12:47:29 PM PST by stacytec
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To: weegee
Kids are still getting pregnant only now we are of the opinion that "it's going to happen anyway".

True. So give them condoms.

Hey. Kids are going to smoke anyway, so let's give them free cigs, too.

43 posted on 11/15/2004 12:56:13 PM PST by It's me
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To: It's me
With sex and drugs, we "know" that Just Say No! doesn't "work" but the anti-smoking crowd (who accept sex and drugs) say that it DOES work with anti-tobacco campaigns (like "truth").

They "know" that tobacco use in movies influences kids but the sex, disrespect,and foul language are just a f****n' part of life and to not include them would be censorship and besides they don't drive the culture.

Welcome to wackyworld (to quote a 'truth' add).

44 posted on 11/15/2004 1:03:38 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Motherbear

The sex positive types are okay with adult minor sex, minor minor sex, unmarried sex, adulterous sex, human animal sex, related human sex, same sex encounters, group sex encounters, hey, it's just sex.

Rape is the only thing they oppose (on the grounds there is no consent, rape fantasies are okay and they don't like to acknowledge that there is an age when minors are TOO YOUNG TO GIVE CONSENT).


45 posted on 11/15/2004 1:06:51 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Motherbear

He certainly laid a foundation for others in institutional settings WHO DO ADVOCATE IT.


46 posted on 11/15/2004 1:08:58 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Motherbear
Well, I was after you on ... He approved of pedophilia which I can't find evidence of. But I agree with you that his admitted sexual escapades were pretty torrid, he made the Marquis de Sod look normal.
47 posted on 11/15/2004 1:13:06 PM PST by stacytec
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To: kattracks
I thought that Alfred Kinsey had been totally debunked long ago.
I find it hard to believe that anybody is still reading his crap.
49 posted on 11/15/2004 3:46:29 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Motherbear

I don't believe in anything without some sort of hard evidence. Show me documents that support the notion that Kinsey actively engaged pedophiles to molest children.


50 posted on 11/15/2004 4:02:26 PM PST by stacytec
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To: stacytec

Click this link and read what Dr. Judith Reisman has to say:

http://www.drjudithreisman.org/


51 posted on 11/15/2004 7:13:06 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: stacytec

If anyone promotes pedophilia, and knowingly supports pedophiles, and supports the concept of child abuse and molestation by pedophiles, he's as bad as anyone who actually performs the act.

Why don't you read some non-pro-Kinsey research and articles and quit supporting a debunked "researcher" who knowingly promoted all manner of sexual deviance as well as sex crimes against children?


52 posted on 11/15/2004 7:16:19 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: little jeremiah

Ok, first thing: Where on this thread did I say I was supporting Kinsey? In my first post I trashed Kinsey for being a bad scientist , thats not exactly a ringing endorsement of his work. I'm asking for HARD evidence to prove to me that he activley supported pedophiles.

Second, Reisman's web site was a informative (Thanks!).

Here is her link that attempts to link pedophilia and Kinsey...
http://www.drjudithreisman.org/kinseypedos.htm

She's relying on the Tripp interview to provide a smoking gun, but Tripp never actually saw Kinsey with any pedophiles. He speculates as to Kinsey's methodology based on what he knew about Kinsey and how he approached problems. After reading this, I had two thoughts. First - I wanted to take a shower because that read made me feel grimey. Second, Kinsey probably did have contact with some of them if Tripps speculation is correct. But at this point, the evidence is still Hearsay. No one saw anything. We don't know if Kinsey made up his research.

Tripp, on the other hand, took pictures of two boys sodomizing each other and later gave it to Kinsey. While thats technically not pedophilia, it is morally reprehensible.


53 posted on 11/15/2004 9:17:44 PM PST by stacytec
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To: stacytec

Reisman has written two books about Kinsey (IIRC), and there are others as well. I haven't read them, although I probably should. I already have trouble sleeping sometimes. :-(

I just can't become completely informed about everything, although I should try harder.

It's kind of like reading more books to find out exactly how evil Hitler was.


54 posted on 11/15/2004 9:21:57 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: Prime Choice

It's already being used by pedophiles, along with changing the language, i.e. adult-child sex or intergenerational sex instead of child sexual abuse.


55 posted on 11/16/2004 11:34:48 AM PST by tuesday afternoon (Everything happens for a reason. - 40 and 43)
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To: Just mythoughts

That line made me sit up and take notice. Exactly what is he advocating here?


56 posted on 11/16/2004 11:36:30 AM PST by tuesday afternoon (Everything happens for a reason. - 40 and 43)
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To: kattracks
This needs a picture


57 posted on 11/16/2004 11:38:05 AM PST by woofie
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To: stacytec
From http://www.drjudithreisman.com/3of7.htm

Reisman writes that the film makers located another Kinsey accomplice in Berlin, Dr. Fritz Von Balluseck, the notorious Nazi pedophile who contributed his child abuse data during the twenty year period of 1936 to 1956 to Kinsey's research data base....

Apparently, Von Balluseck was sending details of his experiences to Kinsey on a regular basis. Letters from Kinsey to Von Ballusek encouraging the Nazi to continue his "research" were found and reviewed by the presiding judge, Dr. Henrich Berger. Berger repeatedly expressed his outrage at Kinsey for not turning Von Ballusek in to the authorities....

The German newspaper, the National Zeitung wrote on May 15, 1957: "Today the court has got four diaries and in these diaries with cynicism and passion, he (Von Balluseck) recorded his crimes against 100 children in the smallest detail. He sent the detail of his experiences regularly to the U.S. sex researcher, Kinsey. The latter was very interested and kept up a regular and lively correspondence with Von Ballusek."

58 posted on 11/16/2004 11:48:57 AM PST by tuesday afternoon (Everything happens for a reason. - 40 and 43)
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To: tuesday afternoon
"That line made me sit up and take notice. Exactly what is he advocating here?"


That is my question as well, the author seems to have artfully intertwined his own desires in writing about this pervert.
59 posted on 11/16/2004 4:43:32 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: woofie
There are pictures here:

IL MEDIA UNSPUN: Kinsey & Ebert, At the Movies

Friday, November 19, 2004 - By Arlen Williams, media critic

A movie is now being shown that promotes one of the most evil and destructive figures in the 20th Century. The setting: not Berlin, nor Moscow, nor Peking . . . but Bloomington, Indiana.

"People of informed conscience are exposing this film and its subject for what they are. Roger Ebert doesn't like that. . . Read more...

60 posted on 11/19/2004 1:47:06 PM PST by unspun (unspun.info | Did U work your precinct, churchmembers, etc. for good votes?)
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