Posted on 11/17/2004 8:30:09 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
ITHACA--The 2004 Presidential election may be decided, but that doesn't mean everyone is pleased.
The divide between the red and the blue states (states were divided by color depending on whether they voted Republican or Democrat) seems to run even deeper than simple political lines. Some Cornell University students are looking to help New York secede from the Union.
"After the election we were all sitting around commiserating in the office and conversation turned to this divide between the red and blue states," said Harsh Vishwasrao, a graduate student in the applied and engineering physics department at Cornell University.
Vishwasrao says the ideas to create a flag contest for a new United States of Canada and to write a letter of secession to Paul Martin, the Prime Minister of Canada, about their plan were the brainchild of post-doctoral students Rebecca Williams and Liz Rhoades.
The students are currently working on a draft of their letter to Martin and plan to include a copy of the winning flag from the contest.
There is no criteria for the flags other than that the blue states join Canada and the red states remain on their own.
"There is a flag with a Smurf holding the Canadian maple leaf," Vishwasrao said. "Some flags are serious, some are whimsical."
Passersby simply put a checkmark on the bulletin board to indicate their choice judge the flags, and judging follows an honor code.
"We hold an honor code that you only vote once, which didn't hold in our election, but we hope will hold in our flag selection," Vishwasrao said, adding that judging seems to be wrapping up this week.
He added that there is no formal statement that the group is trying to make. The whole contest originated from a casual observation of the division of the United States in terms of politics.
"The thing that was really interesting," Vishwasrao said, "was that after this came about I was talking to a friend on the Internet who was sitting in an office in Seattle who said, 'We had the same idea over here.' So we're not just the local leftist nuts."
Vishwasrao stresses that the division of the Democrat and Republican states has been present "since the Civil War" and is not something new over the past two presidential elections.
"The blue states have more in common with the political ideology of Canada than we do with the red states. Make of that what you will," he said. "It's not treason or anything; we're not saying it's a serious course of action."
What? A blue state democrat acknowledging the rampant vote fraud and multiple voting practiced by the democrat vote fraud machine in his state?
NYC ought to be permitted to secede. If we act now, I doubt there will be much opposition from anyone.
"...Harsh Vishwasrao..."
Foreign student? Naturalized? Does he understand the term sedition?
"...Harsh Vishwasrao..."
Foreign student? Naturalized? Does he understand the term sedition?
Where is Candada?
Canada's loss is America's gain.
Oh, that's proof of that, for sure. No leftist nuts in Seattle, no way no how.
So is it ok to call these folks unpatriotic now?
They are free to leave but they are not free to take any of the republics land with them.
Near tiajunna. Don't bring your beeber through Customes.
In my view they should be arrested for plotting to overthrow the government.
Hahahahahahahahaha!!!
Move away, already!!!
"O was some Power the giftie gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!"
Even the blue states had a lot of rec counties in them. Let the blue counties secede. One major benefit would be a big decrease in crime.
Hold on a goldurned minute.
Check the size of the RED swath from Coast to Coast.
Only the RED COUNTIES in the BLUE states may petition to seceded.
No, only BLUE PRECINCTS can petitition to secede.
No, only BLUE VOTERS in Precincts may secede.
OK all you blue voters - lock your doors and hibernate - you have seceded.
If NY seceded, that would almost guarantee Republican presidents from now 'till the end of time. Go for it, dudes!
Yes, only blue voters should secede (as a red voter in a blue county!)
God again with this
look LEAVE or shut the heck up #@$% morons
creating a flag - ok yes this was silly in grade school
Check his uniform - it's French - one white glove!
Please let it be so! France, Syria, Egypt, Cambodia, Cuba, and North Korea are all places that the majority of New Yorkers belong far more than they belong in the USA. I'm not sure that Canada has done anything henious enough to deserve them.
We probably should cut these Demidiots some slack.
On second thought, they may not know the difference between concession, secession and sedition.
Even though they all hang around college campii, I doubt they are knowledgeable on any subject other than liberal blather.
Okay, we will trade you Ithaca for Nova Scotia. Deal?\
If not, we can throw in Vermont.
Can you include a strip along the California coast about 60 miles wide?
Enough of their lame talk. Less talk, more action. Move already.
The many normal people who live in Upstate NY need to do something (legal, of course) to remind the vermin regarding just how abnormal and out of step they are.
"The blue states have more in common with the political ideology of Canada than we do with the red states. Make of that what you will,"
Pure nonsense. First not everyone in the "Blue States" would be for such a move and a couple of post docs (with apparently too much time on their hands) are arrogant in the extreme to suggest such things - even in "jest." Secondly, these numbskulls need to go back and read history. Many of the "Red" states were NOT part of the Confederacy (i.e. Ohio, Iowa). To say such a division has existed since the Civil War is academically criminal.
Nope. But the number of horses asses seem to be beyond original estimations.
Somebody needs to point out to these delusional crybabies that the election is over and George W. Bush will be President of RED NATION for FOUR MORE YEARS! We also have the Senate and House. They can keep Cornell -- for now.
let em go, and then put a huge export tarrif on food, electricity, and other goods exported there and a good sizable tarrif on the importation of garbage from there. See how long their little concrete jungle lasts once they realize it can only exist by suckling off everyone else.
"The thing that was really interesting," Vishwasrao said, "was that after this came about I was talking to a friend on the Internet who was sitting in an office in Seattle who said, 'We had the same idea over here.' So we're not just the local leftist nuts."
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Your not the 'leftist nuts'? Then What the Hell are you! Get out of my state you smurfs!
Over the edge? Are you series? They've been over the edge for so long, they don't remember what it was like to be grounded in reality.
With liberals open talk of leaving the country and seccession is it now OK if we question their patriotism?
I've never understood the obsession with Hillary Clinton.
First of all, as a New Yorker who would have loved to have been able to vote for Howard Dean this year, I just don't see where all this purported popular support for Hillary Clinton is supposed to be coming from. I don't feel that she is a particularly compelling politician, which is why I'm puzzled by the right-wing obsession with her.
Suha Arafat is indisputably a despicable character, but I'm not sure that you can convict Hillary Clinton for being an acquaintance. If Laura Bush had been the first lady during the peace talks of the mid-90's she too would now be an acquaintance of Suha Arafat.
Regardless, will someone please explain to me why they feel that a Hillary Clinton presidency would be an imminent threat to their welfare?
I'd consider trading a couple blue states for Alberta and BC!
Cute stuff. What junior high school was this again?
Beat me to it! Just shut up and move already! Probably won't happen, though. These dem-lib-socialists are all talk and no action -- just like the frogs.
My God, that's perfect. Just put a diaper on the Smurf ... no, wait... that purple Teletubbie wearing a diaper, with a maple leaf in one hand and a white flag in the other. Oh, we could have some fun with this....
I wondered myself what third world garden spot Mr. Vishwasrao was from and if he perhaps has not already overstayed his welcome in the US. INS anyone? Perhaps he could personally "secede" to a more preferable venue on the planet to flex his mighty intellect.
I don't know any blue states or red states. I know the United States, and "the Union is eternal." In case the students may have missed that part of American history, secession has been tried before and the secessionists had a fight on their hands. So be it if secession is tried again.
They are traitors and I will question their patriotism.
you'll have to convince about 30,000 NYC cops. that might prove to be a little difficult.
For the sake of God, stop!!
At least give us Minnesota. NOT NEW YORK.
Please, Lord... please!
(Breaking down into a blithering whimper)
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