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Packing Up (Cornell University students looking to help NY secede to Canada)
© Ithaca Times 2004 ^ | November 17, 2004 | By: Jill Raygor

Posted on 11/17/2004 8:30:09 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

ITHACA--The 2004 Presidential election may be decided, but that doesn't mean everyone is pleased.

The divide between the red and the blue states (states were divided by color depending on whether they voted Republican or Democrat) seems to run even deeper than simple political lines. Some Cornell University students are looking to help New York secede from the Union.

"After the election we were all sitting around commiserating in the office and conversation turned to this divide between the red and blue states," said Harsh Vishwasrao, a graduate student in the applied and engineering physics department at Cornell University.

Vishwasrao says the ideas to create a flag contest for a new United States of Canada and to write a letter of secession to Paul Martin, the Prime Minister of Canada, about their plan were the brainchild of post-doctoral students Rebecca Williams and Liz Rhoades.

The students are currently working on a draft of their letter to Martin and plan to include a copy of the winning flag from the contest.

There is no criteria for the flags other than that the blue states join Canada and the red states remain on their own.

"There is a flag with a Smurf holding the Canadian maple leaf," Vishwasrao said. "Some flags are serious, some are whimsical."

Passersby simply put a checkmark on the bulletin board to indicate their choice judge the flags, and judging follows an honor code.

"We hold an honor code that you only vote once, which didn't hold in our election, but we hope will hold in our flag selection," Vishwasrao said, adding that judging seems to be wrapping up this week.

He added that there is no formal statement that the group is trying to make. The whole contest originated from a casual observation of the division of the United States in terms of politics.

"The thing that was really interesting," Vishwasrao said, "was that after this came about I was talking to a friend on the Internet who was sitting in an office in Seattle who said, 'We had the same idea over here.' So we're not just the local leftist nuts."

Vishwasrao stresses that the division of the Democrat and Republican states has been present "since the Civil War" and is not something new over the past two presidential elections.

"The blue states have more in common with the political ideology of Canada than we do with the red states. Make of that what you will," he said. "It's not treason or anything; we're not saying it's a serious course of action."


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: canada; cityofevil; cornell; ithaca
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Cute stuff. What junior high school was this again?


41 posted on 11/17/2004 8:55:11 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Good Bye and Good Riddance.

Believe me these left wing nuts will not like Canada after a while. These left wing nuts will be second class citizens to all the Packies driving cabs in Quebec.
42 posted on 11/17/2004 8:56:20 AM PST by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: SampleMan

Beat me to it! Just shut up and move already! Probably won't happen, though. These dem-lib-socialists are all talk and no action -- just like the frogs.


43 posted on 11/17/2004 8:56:27 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"There is a flag with a Smurf holding the Canadian maple leaf,"

My God, that's perfect. Just put a diaper on the Smurf ... no, wait... that purple Teletubbie wearing a diaper, with a maple leaf in one hand and a white flag in the other. Oh, we could have some fun with this....

44 posted on 11/17/2004 8:56:40 AM PST by wizardoz (straight, sedentary, and average)
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To: OpusatFR

I wondered myself what third world garden spot Mr. Vishwasrao was from and if he perhaps has not already overstayed his welcome in the US. INS anyone? Perhaps he could personally "secede" to a more preferable venue on the planet to flex his mighty intellect.


45 posted on 11/17/2004 8:59:43 AM PST by Big Digger (If you can keep your head when others are losing theirs, you must be a Republican)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I don't know any blue states or red states. I know the United States, and "the Union is eternal." In case the students may have missed that part of American history, secession has been tried before and the secessionists had a fight on their hands. So be it if secession is tried again.


46 posted on 11/17/2004 8:59:49 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Hurl the invective!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

They are traitors and I will question their patriotism.


47 posted on 11/17/2004 9:00:22 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Brilliant

you'll have to convince about 30,000 NYC cops. that might prove to be a little difficult.


48 posted on 11/17/2004 9:00:44 AM PST by thefactor
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

For the sake of God, stop!!

At least give us Minnesota. NOT NEW YORK.

Please, Lord... please!

(Breaking down into a blithering whimper)


49 posted on 11/17/2004 9:01:42 AM PST by ColoCdn (Truth never dies)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Vishwasrao says the ideas to create a flag contest for a new United States of Canada and to write a letter of secession to Paul Martin, the Prime Minister of Canada

Do these people realise quite what they're saying. They're not talking about leaving the U.S. to join Canada, they want to take over the Dominion. Canada has a flag, you don't like it, then don't join Canada - simple.

Secondly, Canada is a Dominion of H.M. Queen Elizabeth, so they should write to her as well. It is worth noting that if they become Canadian they will have to swear an oath of allegiance to Her Majesty - can't quite see that happening.
50 posted on 11/17/2004 9:04:11 AM PST by tjwmason ("The English, the English, the English are best; I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
cornell, where the art of navel gazing has reached post graduate level status...

the Peoples DemocRATic Republic of Ithaca EVIL!!!

listen to the lunacy.

51 posted on 11/17/2004 9:06:38 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Just go. Leave. Ta ta. Tootle loo. See Ya. Don't write. Make tracks. Get outa here already. Scram. Take a hike. Hit the road. Bye Bye. So long. Via con Diablo. Auf Niedersehen. Arivia Derci. Cheers. Split dudes. What are you waiting for, a "goodbye party"? Bon Voyage! Make like a tree and leaf. Be like a sheperd, and get the sheep out of here. Like, disappear.


52 posted on 11/17/2004 9:08:24 AM PST by Richard Axtell (We should be proud, we made the right choice! God Bless George W. Bush!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
. . . the blue states join Canada and the red states remain on their own.

Sounds like a deal to me.

53 posted on 11/17/2004 9:08:50 AM PST by chit*chat
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To: nobody_knows

yes


54 posted on 11/17/2004 9:11:29 AM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (You can turn your head away from the Berg video and still hear Al Queda's calls to prayer.n)
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To: You Dirty Rats
I mean go over the edge, as in fall off the edge, literally.
55 posted on 11/17/2004 9:12:20 AM PST by b4its2late (Liberals are good examples of why some animals eat their young.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Gosh, hope the succeed, especially if they take Hitlary with them. If they don't want dear Mrs. Clinton, well she'll just be out of a job I guess......


56 posted on 11/17/2004 9:14:22 AM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Re #1

Parasites jumping from one host to another.

In the worst case, if armed conflict breaks out over cessation, liberals cannot succeed because conservatives possess most of guns.:)

57 posted on 11/17/2004 9:17:54 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: Zac79
Terrorists are obsessed with Hillary and the Democrats
because they promised destruction of America for a few shekels of silver.
58 posted on 11/17/2004 9:18:06 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Then I say unto you, send men to summon ... worms. And let us go to Fallujah to collect heads.")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Why don't these idiots just take the bus to Canuckistan?


59 posted on 11/17/2004 9:19:14 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: All

The South tried to secede. We all know how the Yankees raped the South after winning. Now the Yanks want to secede? Go ahead punks! There are enough Southerners willing to give you some pay back.

just kidding!


60 posted on 11/17/2004 9:24:44 AM PST by grandpiano007 (http://billclintondailydiary.blogspot.com You want fries with that shake?)
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