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Frozen Woolly Mammoth Arrives in Japan
yahoo news ^ | 11/18/04 | some fool from AP

Posted on 11/19/2004 7:35:37 PM PST by satchmodog9

TOKYO - World fairs have typically focused on the wonders of the future, highlighting new technologies from glass and steel construction in the 19th century to satellites and computers today. But next year's fair is different.

The Japanese organizers of the 2005 world's fair have shipped a 18,000-year-old frozen woolly mammoth from Siberia to become the centerpiece attraction.

Naoki Suzuki, the Japanese scientist overseeing the Aichi Expo exhibit, said Friday the preserved head, tusks and front leg of the mammoth have arrived in Nagoya near the fair site, about 170 miles west of Tokyo.


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This will probably be eaten. most things that are on the verge of extinction are fair game for the Japanese dinner plate. If they can hunt whales to the brink of extinction why not have some Mammoth wrapped in seaweed.
1 posted on 11/19/2004 7:35:38 PM PST by satchmodog9
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To: satchmodog9

My Ex-Girfriend is in Japan ??????????


2 posted on 11/19/2004 7:36:55 PM PST by cmsgop ( Who's High Pitch ?)
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To: satchmodog9
Frozen Woolly Mammoth Arrives in Japan

Michael Moore forgot his long johns?
3 posted on 11/19/2004 7:37:52 PM PST by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours! (I told you so :-))
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To: satchmodog9

I'd like to see them find a way to bring one back to life.


4 posted on 11/19/2004 7:37:54 PM PST by SoDak (Home of Senator John Thune)
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To: SoDak

That, I would not doubt for one minute.


5 posted on 11/19/2004 7:38:33 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: SoDak

And then we can have Godzilla versus Mammoth! Cool!


6 posted on 11/19/2004 7:39:28 PM PST by JenB
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To: satchmodog9

Wouldn't that be awesome? I'm not sure if it's ethical, but damn I'd like to see one walking around.


7 posted on 11/19/2004 7:40:05 PM PST by SoDak (Home of Senator John Thune)
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To: satchmodog9

Experts say the mammoth head, dug up earlier this year, is the most intact specimen of its kind recovered in 200 years. Scientists will conduct tests in a laboratory with a gallery so visitors can watch.


Preliminary tests suggest the bull mammoth lumbered across the prehistoric Siberian plains at more than 9 feet tall, weighing as much as 5 tons, Suzuki said. It was probably between 40 and 45 years old when it died.


His team hopes a battery of planned tests will help unravel the mystery of why mammoths became extinct some 10,000 years ago.


They will use advanced X-rays to peer inside the mammoth's head and generate a 3-D map of its brain; study muscle tissue to determine how mammoths walked; look at rocks and pollen caught in its fur; cut into the tusks to determine what it ate and whether it was ill; and take DNA samples to answer questions about diseases and viruses.


Mammoths first appeared in Africa as long as 4 million years ago, and they roamed the plains of Siberia for nearly 2 million years before suddenly dying off. Scientists remain divided over the cause of the mammoths' extinction, with theories pointing at human hunters, a killer disease or climate change.


For more than two centuries, mammoth remains have been turning up in the Russian tundra above the Arctic Circle. The Expo's mammoth was excavated north of the town of Yakutsk, about 3,100 miles east of Moscow.


Japanese researchers have for years been searching for mammoth remains in Siberia in a separate project aimed at someday making a clone. So far, no DNA samples have been suitable for such an attempt


8 posted on 11/19/2004 7:40:09 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: JenB

Sabre-tooth cat vs. Mammoth hopefully. I've always been kind of fascinated by the so-called giant fauna period.


9 posted on 11/19/2004 7:41:23 PM PST by SoDak (Home of Senator John Thune)
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To: satchmodog9

Now HERES something we should Clone!!!
Use an elephant for gestation.


10 posted on 11/19/2004 7:41:23 PM PST by konaice
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To: satchmodog9

forgot to post the rest of the article because I was thinking of the Mammoth sashimi.


11 posted on 11/19/2004 7:41:42 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: satchmodog9
His team hopes a battery of planned tests will help unravel the mystery of why mammoths became extinct some 10,000 years ago.

How could tests on one frozen animal hope to deduce that?

Current thinking is they were hunted to death by early man.

12 posted on 11/19/2004 7:43:36 PM PST by konaice
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To: satchmodog9
18,000-year-old frozen woolly mammoth from Siberia

Read a great book once on this subject of frozen mammouths:

There have been several almost complete woolly mammoths found in Siberia frozen in the tundra

1. How did a mammoth very large animal) survive in the Arctic?
2. How could a complete mammoth freeze fast enough to be preserved almost whole?
3. Why was their grains and pollens from a much warmer climate in his stomach?

13 posted on 11/19/2004 7:44:06 PM PST by Popman (Democrat Party Political Values are Condescension, Hypocrisy, Bigotry)
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To: SoDak
There's a lot of nice bones at The La Brea Tar Pits. (Intentional pleonasm.)
14 posted on 11/19/2004 7:46:47 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: satchmodog9

Brrrrrrrrruuuup.

S'cuse me.

Guess I should have left more..like another leg....but


15 posted on 11/19/2004 7:47:13 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("The right of the People to be Muttly shall not be infringed,")
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To: satchmodog9
Experts say the mammoth head, dug up earlier this year, is the most intact specimen of its kind recovered in 200 years.

Here tiz!


16 posted on 11/19/2004 7:47:37 PM PST by SirChas (I posted this using Sun Solaris 10 (UNIX) on my PC!)
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To: satchmodog9

Many are cold, but few are frozen.


17 posted on 11/19/2004 7:47:43 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: satchmodog9; cmsgop
an 18,000-year-old frozen woolly mammoth


18 posted on 11/19/2004 7:48:06 PM PST by ErnBatavia (ErnBatavia, Coulter, Malkin, Ingraham....the ultimate Menage a Quatro)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

I want to see the things walking around.


19 posted on 11/19/2004 7:48:07 PM PST by SoDak (Home of Senator John Thune)
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To: satchmodog9

A WOOLLY MAMMOTH was unearthed from the Siberian permafrost Oct. 17, 1999 and transported, intact and still frozen to a laboratory for study. Scientists used radar imaging to find the 23,000-year-old creature. then excavated a huge block of dirt to preserve it. REUTERS PHOTO

20 posted on 11/19/2004 7:48:35 PM PST by Popman (Democrat Party Political Values are Condescension, Hypocrisy, Bigotry)
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To: Popman
There was a television program about the mammoth on Discovery (I think) a couple of years ago. If you're really interested, I'm sure their web site would have the DVD or video available.

It was a documentary of the excavation of a mammoth, but had plenty of cool-looking computer-generated footage. It was a very interesting program.

21 posted on 11/19/2004 7:48:42 PM PST by TontoKowalski
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To: SirChas

Less than one minute! (see a couple below yours....)


22 posted on 11/19/2004 7:48:54 PM PST by ErnBatavia (ErnBatavia, Coulter, Malkin, Ingraham....the ultimate Menage a Quatro)
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To: konaice

Current thinking is they were hunted to death by early man.

Sure, always blame the gun owner.


23 posted on 11/19/2004 7:49:12 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: ErnBatavia

What can I say.. Great minds etc...


24 posted on 11/19/2004 7:49:32 PM PST by SirChas (I posted this using Sun Solaris 10 (UNIX) on my PC!)
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To: satchmodog9

whew. i was worried that it got lost.


25 posted on 11/19/2004 7:49:33 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: Joy Angela; lainie

Wooly Mammoth story Ping.


26 posted on 11/19/2004 7:50:07 PM PST by bd476
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..with theories pointing at human hunters, a killer disease or climate change.

Bush's fault.

27 posted on 11/19/2004 7:50:12 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: satchmodog9

Mature and juvenile wooly mammoths pictured with a Diatryma gigantea.

28 posted on 11/19/2004 7:50:23 PM PST by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: SoDak
Wouldn't that be awesome? I'm not sure if it's ethical, but damn I'd like to see one walking around.

I believe they should do it and that it is perfectly ethical. I would clone it in a second and try to revive the species if I had any say in it.

29 posted on 11/19/2004 7:50:24 PM PST by lafroste (gravity is not a force, dangit)
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The problem is that it would not necessarily have a native ecology ready for it. Other factors are things like long-dormant viruses, and bacterium.


30 posted on 11/19/2004 7:52:27 PM PST by SoDak (Home of Senator John Thune)
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To: TC Rider
Not Bush's fault. Climate/environmental disasters are more properly laid at the feet of VP Cheney and Haliburton.

The President is to blame for church burnings in Arkansas which occurred when Clintoon was a child. This article is not about that.

31 posted on 11/19/2004 7:54:49 PM PST by TontoKowalski
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To: satchmodog9
I read a Louis Lamour interview many years ago, I think it was from Western Horseman but don't hold me to that. In one portion they asked him about a Sackett character of his who kills a woolly mammoth in the 1600s. Lamour recited both indian foldlore that discussed the whoolly mammoth as still being present when the White man arrived, and survivors of a John Hawken's ship. During the reigh of Elizabeth 1st John Hawkens (Hawkins?) traded African slaves for Spainish gold and silver in Mexico. He was attacked by the Spainards and forced to maroon some of his men when he lost several ships. (One survivor who sailed back to England was Francis Drake, who later paid the Spainish back with interest) Hawkens promised that he would return, but some of the men, stranded in Mexico and fearing thet he either could not or would not return, decided to walk out -- to Nova Scotia. Two or three made it after many years. One animal they they decribed as having seen when they made it back to England is clearly a woolly mammoth. Lamour pointed out that they did not make a big deal out of the mammoth because they did not know that it was supposed to be extinct.
32 posted on 11/19/2004 8:01:47 PM PST by Pilsner
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"The Japanese organizers of the 2005 world's fair have shipped a 18,000-year-old frozen woolly mammoth from Siberia to become the centerpiece attraction."

Could be the next great Japanese sci-fi movie: "Mammzilla Stomps Tokyo."

33 posted on 11/19/2004 8:04:33 PM PST by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: SoDak
Good points on the revivification of pathogens, but doubtful if these were healthy, migrating critters that walked into a blizzard.

I doubt the mammoth was fast frozen like chicken parts now a days. We're dealing with too few specimens to make generalizations.

Good to hear from you, SoDak, and congratulations on your Daschle extinction event!

34 posted on 11/19/2004 8:09:11 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: BIGLOOK

I guess part of what I wrote was quite stupid. If we are able to extract DNA, we won't be awakening pathogens in the carcasses. If we can get good DNA, it's all good, I say raise the mammoth. Oh, and thanks for the Congrats. I'm still thrilled two weeks later.


35 posted on 11/19/2004 8:12:48 PM PST by SoDak (Home of Senator John Thune)
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To: Popman
1. How did a mammoth very large animal) survive in the Arctic? 2. How could a complete mammoth freeze fast enough to be preserved almost whole? 3. Why was their grains and pollens from a much warmer climate in his stomach?

Google the term "pole shift". That's one theory that has been proposed.

36 posted on 11/19/2004 8:29:34 PM PST by tarheelswamprat (Negotiations are the heroin of Westerners addicted to self-delusion.)
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To: SoDak
Not so far off on your part. The experts will be looking to recover DNA. I hope they'll think to examine tissue for pathogens.

If Mammoths can be cloned from the DNA via a surrogate, sounds like a good business opportunity for you. South Dakota Mammoth Ranch. I know of a guy near you that needs a job; lots of experience shoveling sh*t. Hang on while I look up his Number in my Capitol Contacts.

37 posted on 11/19/2004 8:30:03 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: JenB; Godzilla

"Godzilla versus Mammoth!"

I would expect Godzilla to at least show respect for the ancient pachyderm, given his political views.


38 posted on 11/19/2004 8:31:40 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: BIGLOOK

Oh, I doubt he'll be looking here. He'll be looking to shovel more of it in DC in the private sector.


39 posted on 11/19/2004 8:36:29 PM PST by SoDak (Home of Senator John Thune)
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To: Popman

Answer: Because it wasn't an arctic climate when the critter was alive and something very, very nasty happened real quick-like to flash freeze Jumbo.


40 posted on 11/19/2004 9:27:46 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (From Ku Klux Klan to the modern era of the Koo Kleft Klan...the true RAT legacy.)
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Scientists may use mammoth cells for cloning
Saturday Argus
Independent Online
March 19 2005 at 02:43PM
A frozen mammoth dug up from the Siberian tundra has been unveiled in central Japan in a preview of the six-month World Exposition, which is expected to draw millions of tourists. The beast, believed to have lived 18 000 years ago, has been preserved in a giant refrigerator... Full-bodied mammoths have been unearthed in the past, but this exhibit is billed as the most successful attempt yet to display the animal almost fully. The mammoth on display has tusks, a front leg and a nearly intact, soil-coloured head covered with muscle tissue and some woolly hair... Visitors can view the mammoth, which was excavated in 2002, from windows at the lab, where the temperature and humidity are controlled by computers. A group of Russian and Japanese scientists hope to clone mammoths from the animal’s remains by using elephant egg cells.
I'm sure, if there were Moslem terrorists operating in Japan, that they'd blow the place up just to kill as many people as possible.

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41 posted on 03/19/2005 9:34:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, March 13, 2005.)
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42 posted on 03/19/2005 9:35:25 PM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, March 13, 2005.)
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Scientists will conduct tests in a laboratory with a gallery so visitors can watch.

" Tastes like chicken!"

43 posted on 03/19/2005 9:51:10 PM PST by dasboot
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To: SunkenCiv
"The Japanese organizers of the 2005 world's fair have shipped a 18,000-year-old frozen woolly mammoth from Siberia to become the centerpiece attraction."

Looks like the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM) got this critter.

44 posted on 03/19/2005 10:01:57 PM PST by blam
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To: ErnBatavia
Always with the Helen Thomas photos.

I think you're in love! :)

45 posted on 03/19/2005 10:41:06 PM PST by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.)
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To: satchmodog9

This will probably be eaten. most things that are on the verge of extinction are fair game for the Japanese dinner plate. If they can hunt whales to the brink of extinction why not have some Mammoth wrapped in seaweed.

46 posted on 03/20/2005 1:41:27 AM PST by elli1
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To: satchmodog9

This will probably be eaten. most things that are on the verge of extinction are fair game for the Japanese dinner plate. If they can hunt whales to the brink of extinction why not have some Mammoth wrapped in seaweed.

The American Buffalo

47 posted on 03/20/2005 1:44:58 AM PST by elli1
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To: TontoKowalski
We picked up two videos for $1 at a dollar store in Chicago suburbs called Deals just a month ago or so.

Discovery Channel, Raising the Mammoth (2000), and Land of the Mammoth (2001). They were excellent, my son loved them.

Off subject but we were in Naperville yesterday shopping and outside one of the stores what did we see, a man walking the family pet while his wife shopped inside, it was an Arctic Fox! Arctic Foxes may become the newest family pet. The animal looked very scared, her eyes, well, she was not thrilled to be out at the mall. I spoke to the man awhile. He had had her 1 year and his family still did not come to close to her and the owner still said she would get a little aggressive when food was around, that there was still some concern in his mind about her safety with people!
48 posted on 03/20/2005 5:05:05 AM PST by Esther Ruth
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To: elli1

coming soon to a Benihana near you.


49 posted on 03/20/2005 9:28:38 AM PST by wildbill
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[ 2. How could a complete mammoth freeze fast enough to be preserved almost whole? ]

In far north Alaska (NOW) it regularly gets 50 60 degees BELOW Zero... the wind chill would be way below that.. What if during an unusual winter it got 80 to 100 degrees degrees below zero (and the storm went south) the wind chill could easily freeze ANYTHING quickly too.. At -30 degrees F. if you throw a cup of coffee into the air it hits the ground frozen in "tinkles" plus a little frozen air fog..

Dry ice(frozen carbon dioxide) is -80 degrees F.. Some weather can get colder than even that.. know what I mean.?.

50 posted on 03/20/2005 9:58:23 AM PST by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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