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Of Mice, Men and In-Between (Human/Animal Hybrids)
Washington Post ^

Posted on 11/20/2004 9:52:18 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Scientists Debate Blending Of Human, Animal Forms

By Rick Weiss In Minnesota, pigs are being born with human blood in their veins.

In Nevada, there are sheep whose livers and hearts are largely human.

In California, mice peer from their cages with human brain cells firing inside their skulls.

These are not outcasts from "The Island of Dr. Moreau," the 1896 novel by H.G. Wells in which a rogue doctor develops creatures that are part animal and part human. They are real creations of real scientists, stretching the boundaries of stem cell research.

Biologists call these hybrid animals chimeras, after the mythical Greek creature with a lion's head, a goat's body and a serpent's tail. They are the products of experiments in which human stem cells were added to developing animal fetuses.

Chimeras are allowing scientists to watch, for the first time, how nascent human cells and organs mature and interact -- not in the cold isolation of laboratory dishes but inside the bodies of living creatures. Some are already revealing deep secrets of human biology and pointing the way toward new medical treatments.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: bioethics; biotech; chimeras; crevolist; genetics; health; medicine; science
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1 posted on 11/20/2004 9:52:18 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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2 posted on 11/20/2004 9:59:52 AM PST by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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I have created things that will change the world for the better...


4 posted on 11/20/2004 10:08:30 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (<<<loves her hubbit and the horse he rode in on :~D)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

JoJo the dog-faced boy? Kids In the Hall....chicken girl?


5 posted on 11/20/2004 10:13:59 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: Ichneumon; PatrickHenry

Biology ping


6 posted on 11/20/2004 10:55:14 AM PST by RightWingAtheist (Marxism-creationism of the left)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

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"Gee, George...come on, George...

...tell me about the Rabbits"


...Lenny to George in John Steinback's 'Of Mice & Men'

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7 posted on 11/20/2004 10:56:19 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: RightWingAtheist

Is this really for the ping list?


8 posted on 11/20/2004 11:05:09 AM PST by PatrickHenry (The all-new List-O-Links for evolution threads is now in my freeper homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Well, I didn't want to see it get totally swamped by luddites who believe the catastrophism of euro-greenie-weenies :-)


9 posted on 11/20/2004 11:18:21 AM PST by RightWingAtheist (Marxism-creationism of the left)
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To: RightWingAtheist

Let 'em have this one. They'll think they're winning.


10 posted on 11/20/2004 11:21:34 AM PST by PatrickHenry (The all-new List-O-Links for evolution threads is now in my freeper homepage.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Hold the phone!!! I have cells of my two sons circulating and reproducing in my body??? I'll have to think about that one for a while. I was ok with losing the teeth and gaining a half of a shoe size for each pregnancy but I didn't know I was getting a permanent genetic mutation.


11 posted on 11/20/2004 1:34:08 PM PST by Mercat (I call, You hear me.)
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To: Lindykim; DirtyHarryY2K; Siamese Princess; Ed Current; Grampa Dave; Luircin; gonow

Moral Absolutes Ping - Anyone think this is good? A grey area? Maybe ok, maybe not?

In my viewpoint this definitely falls into the category of "Thou shalt not". Why?

Playing God, for one. He's the creator, we're the order carriers. Or should be. Naturally, part of our job description is to use our God-given talents (whatever they may be, large or small) in His service, and the service of all His creatures. But said talents and ingenuity can also be used against His natural order.

Torturing animals and humans (no matter how tiny and helpless) and gene manipulation to create "better" creatures is wrong. And like everything that is wrong, there will be terrible repercussions later on.*

Remember this: When violating the natural order to make things better, this is invariably the result.

"The Cure Is Worse Than The Disease".

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.

*This kind of mad scientist venture is completely different than normal hybridization or mixing, for instance, a horse and a donkey to get a mule.


12 posted on 11/20/2004 1:48:22 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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Pandora's box! They think they are in control. Boldly going where no man has gone before, New life forms etc... It will take a major catastrophe to curb their ambition.
13 posted on 11/20/2004 2:13:38 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Perversion is not a civil right.)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

Unfortunately, I think you're right. In fact, you can say that for pretty much all leftist agendas. Regarding the mad scientist plans such as described here, I don't know if they can be labeled "left" or "right".

But they can accurately be called "wrong".


14 posted on 11/20/2004 2:22:18 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget; fourdeuce82d; El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.


15 posted on 11/20/2004 4:07:14 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

This weird science is chilling.


16 posted on 11/20/2004 4:09:16 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: sartorius

Don't #%$k with Mother Nature !!! Blackbird.


17 posted on 11/20/2004 4:20:21 PM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: little jeremiah

I don't know a great deal about the topic,but have read of experiments in which human genes were added to animal as a means of being able to conduct experiments you couldn't use humans for (example: testing vaccines for smallpox,AIDS,etc.)

I'm not sure this is a "morality" issue.


18 posted on 11/20/2004 5:07:57 PM PST by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: genefromjersey

Genetic science is not limited by any concept of "right" and "wrong". It's merely (a) can it be done and (b) will it make money.

Capitalism or science with no guiding limits of wrong and right will lead to great evil.

"They" are currently looking into and have tried (maybe very actively for all I know, I don't make a huge effort to find out) taking human genes, putting them in animals, so that organs can be grown in the animals for removing and implanting in humans. The science mentioned in the article above also mentioned embyronic stem cells, if I'm not mistaken. That is merely cannibalism by another name. It is morally wrong.

A side point is that people whose vision of what is a human being is nothing but a bag of chemicals and electrical impulses, with no soul, and ending at death, see the end of the physical body as the greatest evil.

It is not the greatest evil. Living an immoral life, at the expense of others, is the greatest evil.


19 posted on 11/20/2004 7:10:48 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: little jeremiah
All I thought of when I saw this was...
http://www-public.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de/~fischeni/
Click on the link, you'll get it ;-)
20 posted on 11/21/2004 11:48:45 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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