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EUROPE'S CIVIL WAR?
www.nypost.com ^ | November 21, 2004 | ARNAUD DE BORCHGRAVE

Posted on 11/21/2004 6:10:28 AM PST by Ginifer

THE Netherlands has long been Europe's most permissive society — everything from window-shopping in Amsterdam for scantily clad hookers (50 to 80 Euros for 15 to 30 minutes) to hashish aroma in marijuana-smoke-filled cafes.

The government and the sex workers union protect some 30,000 women. The pimps are landlords and the aging prostitutes are quickly replaced with a steady influx from the former Soviet republics and East European countries.

A Dutch brothel chain is suing the government for failing to green-light the "Yum Yum Caviar Club" at Schiphol Airport "to cater to stressed travelers in transit." The government responded that plans for an airport bordello were on hold pending new building and space in the departure areas.

It was such Dutch tolerance, pragmatism and guilt about the country's colonial past that allowed hundreds of thousands of immigrants from Muslim Indonesia (a Dutch colony from the 17th century until World War II) to flood into tiny Holland. Today, Muslims are a majority among children under 14 in the Netherlands' four largest cities.

There are 1 million Muslims (6 percent of the population) now living in Europe's most crowded small country. Some 30,000 new Muslims arrive every year. They tend to live among themselves, with their own schools, mosques and restaurants. Most are horrified by what they view as sacrilegious in their own religion. Their imams speak no Dutch and know nothing of the Netherlands' history and culture.

Western Europe as a whole gets about half a million new Muslims a year. Most make their way from sub-Saharan and North Africa, illegal immigrants smuggled by boat to Spain and Italy where they are free to travel with impunity to the rest of Europe. Thus, Europe's Muslim population has doubled to 20 million in the last 10 years.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: arnauddeborchgrave; clashofcivilizatio; europeanmuslims; netherlands

1 posted on 11/21/2004 6:10:28 AM PST by Ginifer
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To: Ginifer

This time lets let Europe fight it out among themselves to the finish...no American involvement for we are never appreciated when we pull them out of the ditch time and time again.


2 posted on 11/21/2004 6:13:18 AM PST by Tribemike (Here is the text of the article....)
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To: Ginifer

They should just add it to Schipol's Mercury Hotel. As a room service option.


3 posted on 11/21/2004 6:14:16 AM PST by Eagle Eye (Al Anbar -- not just another bad neighborhood, it's a state of mind)
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To: Ginifer
"Yum Yum Caviar Club" at Schiphol Airport "to cater to stressed travelers in transit."

"Damm I have a 3 hour hold-over in Amsterdam. What can I do for 3 hours?"

4 posted on 11/21/2004 6:14:23 AM PST by Semper Paratus (Michael)
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To: Ginifer

bump for later read.


5 posted on 11/21/2004 6:18:57 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: Ginifer
Western Europe as a whole gets about half a million new Muslims a year. Stand up!
6 posted on 11/21/2004 6:19:49 AM PST by eagle11 (Judge a religion not by the words of its adherents, but by their actions.)
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To: Ginifer

There is indeed a war coming, and it won't be very civil.

It's already begun in earnest:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1284538/posts


7 posted on 11/21/2004 6:20:15 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm ( veni vidi vino visa "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Ginifer; All


Islam versus Holland- Red Cresent Rising?
various FR links | 11-13-04 | The Heavy Equipment Guy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1279355/posts


8 posted on 11/21/2004 6:22:41 AM PST by backhoe (Just a Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: Semper Paratus

Isn't it amazing how the Dutch were conquered without a shot being fired?
These idiots have lost their entire country and "culture" (such as it was) by inviting the enemy in by the boatload.
(smoke another joint while the world passes you by, Dutchy)
They didn't even have the honor of waving a white flag (made in France)
What a stupid waste of an entire cultural civilization.
Muslims must be rolling around on the grass laughing their arses off.


9 posted on 11/21/2004 6:23:05 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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We should catch any remaining Dutch and put them in a zoo. Maybe we can breed them back and put them back into the wild someday.


10 posted on 11/21/2004 6:25:13 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Woe is me. What's the world going t do without woden shoes and tulips? And fat little chocolate eating boys with their fingers in the dyke? (that doesn't sound right dore some reason) What is the witch with the ginger bread house going to do without anymore hansel and grettals? Somehow i don't see Islamic children taking over the roll. they'll chop of the itches head and dance in the blood.

And, I'm going to miss those excellent machinists Holland used to produce.


11 posted on 11/21/2004 6:31:44 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Ginifer
The conclusion is chilling. Is it a glimpse into our future?


Could the Netherlands be a curtain-raiser for a wider clash of civilizations in the old continent?

Hundreds of thousands of young Muslims in Europe are potential jihadis, according to European intelligence chiefs speaking not for publication. They have been warning their political masters about the tinderboxes that many Muslim communities have become. Jihadi volunteers are known to have left for Iraq from a number of Muslim slums on the outskirts of major European cities.

Recruitment posters come on regular European and Arabic news programs — from the Abu Ghraib prison pictures to the battle of Fallujah.



NBC/MSNBC's willingness to run -- four times an hour for days -- a clip of a Marine shooting an Iraqi insurgent faking death in a Mosque redoubt is a recent latest example of conduct that would be condemned and punished as treasonous in earlier conflicts in this nation's history.
12 posted on 11/21/2004 6:39:06 AM PST by OESY
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To: Ginifer

what will they do??? Iran with "the" bomb and a missile to get it there.


13 posted on 11/21/2004 6:40:13 AM PST by camas
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To: Nathan Zachary
Isn't it amazing how the Dutch were conquered without a shot being fired?

You know, this would almost be funny if it weren't happening here too......Se habla Espanol?

14 posted on 11/21/2004 6:45:51 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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To: Semper Paratus

Anything you want -- but I bet you can't smoke a cigarette afterwards.


15 posted on 11/21/2004 6:49:04 AM PST by Dionysius
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To: Nathan Zachary

I'm guessing you haven't been to Holland recently.


16 posted on 11/21/2004 6:53:26 AM PST by Eagle Eye (Al Anbar -- not just another bad neighborhood, it's a state of mind)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Isn't it amazing how the Dutch were conquered without a shot being fired?

The Dutch have not been conquered, despite your defeatist statement.

These idiots have lost their entire country and "culture" (such as it was) by inviting the enemy in by the boatload. (smoke another joint while the world passes you by, Dutchy)

Did you know the Dutch have lower rates of marijuana and heroin use than the US?

They didn't even have the honor of waving a white flag (made in France) What a stupid waste of an entire cultural civilization.

You seem in an awful hurry to bury one our best allies in Iraq and the WOT.

17 posted on 11/21/2004 7:12:38 AM PST by Ken H
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To: Nathan Zachary

It's like the Romans and the Visigoths all overagain.


18 posted on 11/21/2004 7:17:54 AM PST by The Iguana
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To: Nathan Zachary
What is the witch with the ginger bread house going to do without anymore hansel and grettals'

Hansel and Gretel was a fairy tale by the Brothers Grimm. They were German

19 posted on 11/21/2004 7:18:45 AM PST by Sarajevo
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To: Ginifer

From Europe, mostly slummers are recruited for the work of the Islamofascists in Iraq, I'm sure they have things set up for the Europeans if the Europeans really piss them off. This is what these European intelligence chiefs are testifying about. Again, its up to America and the better among their kind in other places, to do the heavy lifting in the defense of civilization.

We are winning the war on terror, but this column points out that it is like all other wars, a war of attrition. The Islamofascist side must have drawn lines that we don't cross at this time the same way that we didn't finish Saddam's regime off in 1991. Sometimes the considerations at any given time turn out to be overly cautious and sometimes they don't. That's just the nature of the world, and the ocean that the captain of the ship of state has to navigate. Thank God that ours has a pretty reliable moral compass. I do.


20 posted on 11/21/2004 7:31:30 AM PST by Sirc_Valence (As socialists formed trade unions against employers the ACLU formed against the U.S.)
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To: Sarajevo

This is too bad. I really enjoyed Amsterdam and the surrounding towns when I was there 20 years ago on my Harley.


21 posted on 11/21/2004 7:37:46 AM PST by datura (It's Time To Destroy The MSM, And Their Politically Correct Ideology/Gay Agenda)
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To: Ken H
"You seem in an awful hurry to bury one our best allies in Iraq and the WOT"

Gotta agree with you there.
The Dutch have been one of America's staunchest allies in Iraq, standing shoulder to shoulder with our American troops. They need every support and sympathy from us when their citizens are murdered by Islamic psychopaths.
Having been to Amsterdam and Rotterdam many, many times (nothing to do with the sex business I assure you, even though of course I did go and have a "lil" look at the Red Light District, out of curiosity of course :) ), I think the Dutch are some of the friendliest, nicest people I ever met. Plus most of them can speak very good English. You certainly can't say that about the French or the Germans.
22 posted on 11/21/2004 7:38:51 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: KwasiOwusu

The Dutch have to take their O levels to graduate IN ENGLISH.


23 posted on 11/21/2004 7:48:44 AM PST by doberville (Angels can fly when they take themselves lightly)
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To: Ginifer
Today, Muslims are a majority among children under 14 in the Netherlands' four largest cities.

How frightening! Caliphate, here we come!

24 posted on 11/21/2004 10:25:51 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Nathan Zachary

They haven't lost yet. Right now I'd say Europe is in the position Rohan was in the Two Towers.


25 posted on 11/21/2004 11:03:05 AM PST by dangus
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