Posted on 11/22/2004 6:34:42 AM PST by Calpernia
nw_arizona_granny found this in one of her searches. I've heard and read this stuff before; but I am shocked anew everytime I see it.
Regarding the mutilation of girls: for boys it's bad too (although not as bad, of course, since the boys still have some sexual function left.) Rather than being circumcised in the first week after birth, they're circumcised in their childhood or early adolescence - often *without anesthesia.* That's got to really mar you for life, psychologically.
OK, you convinced me. I'm converting to Islam. Seriesly.
A needed reminder of what we're up against.
Is this practiced here?
Bttt
My husband has heard some of this from his patients too. I am still shocked.
Interesting that Lloyd de Mause is still around. I used to read the Journal 20 years ago but found it far too wrapped up in Freudian claptrap, sometimes to the point of ludicrous incoherence. But sometimes the "decoding" of cutural icons was interesting (if unprovable).
But in this article his approach is a bit more plausible, given that Arab Muslims are themselves so wrapped-up in bizarre sexual beliefs and practices as advocated by the Koran. For example, the raging homosexual underground that's been related by several long-term Middle East expats (e.g. even going back to the first several pages of T.E. Lawrence's Seven Pillars Of Wisdom). Or the lunatic Saudi imam who more recently wrote a few tracts on the spiritual meaning(s) of menstruation (was it on MEMRI?). Really perverse stuff.
Just more evidence that Islam is the religion of mental illness.
>>>>For example, the raging homosexual underground that's been related by several long-term Middle East expats (e.g. even going back to the first several pages of T.E. Lawrence's Seven Pillars Of Wisdom).
Is this the common alliance the left seems to have with Islam?
When a boy is born, the family rejoices; when a girl is born, the whole family mourns.
You know I've seen this in many societies, and for the life of me I don't understand it. Last time I checked it took TWO to tango. And contrary to what some in the "gay community" want ONE of those needs to be a women.
fascinating stuff
No! This would just provide another hated, western-inspired target for the islamists to bomb.
The problem IS islam!
It's very possible that the "..abomination of desolation" in the Bible is refering to islam. Whether it is or not, islam surely fits the description.
All pagan gods are refered to in the Bible as "abominations." Islam's moon god, allah, should be no exception.
Dunno. A friend with 15+ years expat work mentioned it to me, and a few Freepers with similar M-E backgrounds have also mentioned it.
Here's what T.E. Lawrence described, though it gets more graphic in the book:
"Our privations and dangers fanned this virile heat, in a climate as racking as can be conceived. We had no shut places to be alone in, no thick clothes to hide our nature. Man in all things lived candidly with man."
http://www.wesjones.com/sevenpillars%2000.xml
Anyone who defends this Islamic middle-eastern culture either hasn't the slightest clue or is a product of it.
What utter horsesh!t.
I don't know that I'm buying this reasoning 100%. The vast majority of kids who are abused don't go on to abuse others although we certainly hear about the ones who do.
I think the social and religious rewards for hatred and terrorism are more than enough to fuel the phenomenon. Remember, most of the terrorists that affect us were born into wealth, were probably raised by nannies and were educated in the West. Their mothers probably read Western fashion magazines, vacationed in the West and wore Western clothing under those sacks.
They have more than enough social rewards to be terrorists without resorting to Freud.
Excelent post, Calpurnia. Wonder why the Mid-east doesn't understand that most westerners agree about the sinful temptations in our society, but are better for having been SUFICIENTLY TEMPTED to stray from the proper moral choices?
When my four children were small, I toyed with the idea of putting a lock on the pantry door to keep them from the cookies. Thought better since it envolved no proper choice on their part. Even God allows sin.
Discipline= make do
Punishment= make NOT do. (Nazi's only understand this.)
Not true.
A group of the Fallujah "insurgents" were interviewed by a newspaper a few weeks ago, and they all seemed very motivated by the prospect of the 72 versions. In fact that was the only reason they gave for their fighting.
The problem IS islam!
Then I assume you don't think what we are doing in Iraq is correct?
All pagan gods are refered to in the Bible as "abominations." Islam's moon god, allah, should be no exception.
Ok, and just what does this have to do with the war we're fighting?
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