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Crime victim strikes back (Victim runs over and kills suspect)
The Times ^ | November 23, 2004 | BRIAN X. McCRONE

Posted on 11/23/2004 5:04:30 AM PST by new cruelty

TRENTON - Minutes after four young men robbed a Hiltonia resident of $1,500 cash Sunday night and threatened to rape his teenage daughters, one of the suspects lay dead under the victim's sport utility vehicle on nearby Route 29.

The unidentified young man was killed after he jumped from his car and began shooting at the SUV driven by Robert O'Neal, 54, who had given chase.

O'Neal ran him over, police said. "I didn't mean for this to happen," O'Neal said yesterday, fighting back tears. "I'm a single parent with two daughters. They had my credit cards, my wallet. They knew where I lived."

A union iron worker with Local 68, O'Neal has lived in the Hiltonia section of the city almost two decades.

"This (criminal activity) has got to stop," he said. "If we don't stand up for ourselves, it won't stop."

Detectives said yesterday that the four men robbed O'Neal in front of his home about 9 p.m. Sunday.

The dead man's identity had not been disclosed last night.

(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; crime; criminals; homeinvasion; newjersey; nj; rape; saintpancakelives; selfdefense; suv; trenton
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To: new cruelty

Oh man.......I said I wasn't going to cry......


41 posted on 11/23/2004 5:22:19 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

ROTFLOL! ahem.. sorry... I don't mean to laugh at your grief.


42 posted on 11/23/2004 5:23:02 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty

<< One of the robbers then jumped from the car, which had been disabled by the collisions, and began firing at O'Neal's SUV, the report said.

While O'Neal can't remember what happened next, police and a gas station attendant at the Sunoco across the street from the crash said the SUV ran over the gunman.

"Right now, you could say this is in self-defense," Medina said. "The suspect shot more than once (at O'Neal). Definitely the (robbery) victim felt like his life was in immediate danger."
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Self defense indeed. He did a good thing by giving chase, and it led to a self defense situation. No one should be placed in the situation this citizen/father found himself. The ones to pay should exclusively be the perps. The community and the law should wrap its arms around the father.

p.


43 posted on 11/23/2004 5:24:17 AM PST by Paul_B
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To: new cruelty

It's a damn shame he didn't get all four of them....

Couldn't help but notice the MSM didn't identify the ethnicity of the four young men?

I'm guessing they weren't caucasian; Otherwise, they'd have been id'd as such in the article by MSM in BIG BOLD CAPTIAL LETTERS WITH LIGHTS AND BANNERS.


44 posted on 11/23/2004 5:25:08 AM PST by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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To: liberateUS

Good point.


45 posted on 11/23/2004 5:25:10 AM PST by bvw
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To: new cruelty

My bad.


46 posted on 11/23/2004 5:26:58 AM PST by Lance Romance
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To: odoso
At least one of the suspects was white and one was black. I am not sure what the other two were.

From the article posted-

Police are searching for a black male about 6-foot-1 with a medium build who is known by the nickname "Black."

Anyone with information can contact Detective Lt. Robert Cochran at (609) 989-4153 or the Trenton police confidential tip-line at (609) 989-3663.

47 posted on 11/23/2004 5:27:33 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty

Maybe Local 68 will deal with the other three perps.


48 posted on 11/23/2004 5:31:35 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("We are in the process of allowing them to self-actualise" LtC. Rainey, Fallujah, 11/04)
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To: new cruelty

A great American! Damn criminals think they can take anything they want, without repercussions? Guess again idiots. My hat is off to this patriot! A few more cases like this, where we put a medal on him, and the country will be headed the right way!


49 posted on 11/23/2004 5:32:26 AM PST by Issaquahking ( Bush won, Arafat is dead! Life is good!)
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To: new cruelty

Cue 'In a Yugo' by Paul Shanklin.


50 posted on 11/23/2004 5:34:58 AM PST by Jackknife (.......Land of the Free,because of the Brave.)
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To: new cruelty

Seems to me he needs to re-zero his SUV, it appears to be about three clicks off at 100 yards.


51 posted on 11/23/2004 5:36:35 AM PST by Jarhead1957 (Semper Fi)
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To: HMFIC

H,
That sounds like good advice to me.

I'll only reinforce it by adding that cops, ultimately, are agents of the state- the very state that wants to charge and prosecute you.

Everything will be used against you, so shut the hell up- even if the question is "Do you know how fast you were going?"


52 posted on 11/23/2004 5:37:23 AM PST by Gefreiter ("Flee...into the peace and safety of a new dark age." HP Lovecraft)
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To: jakkknife
Cue 'In a Yugo' by Paul Shanklin.

"But they drove with pride ..."

53 posted on 11/23/2004 5:38:16 AM PST by silent_jonny
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To: HMFIC

I Mr O'neill remembers, the abilty, opportunity and jepoardy criteria. Sir, you are a credit + to the lawyer profession. Lifetime NRA member.


54 posted on 11/23/2004 5:38:32 AM PST by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Jarhead1957

LOL!

Yeah, his Battlefield Zero was off. Maybe his rear sight was up for a 500 yd shot and he forgot to reset his BZO.

Hey, he nabbed ONE, better than NONE!


55 posted on 11/23/2004 5:38:48 AM PST by HMFIC (US Marines, you yell, we shell.)
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To: new cruelty

"I didn't mean for this to happen," O'Neal said yesterday, fighting back tears."

That's too bad that the guy is upset. Seems like he should be proud of himself. Hope he gets some support.


56 posted on 11/23/2004 5:39:39 AM PST by orangelobster
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To: Gefreiter

Even when an officer pulls you over and asks to search your car.

1. NO SIR, YOU MAY NOT SEARCH ME OR MY CAR.

2. THEN, ASK THEM: "AM I FREE TO GO?"

Then, LEAVE THE AREA!


57 posted on 11/23/2004 5:40:04 AM PST by HMFIC (US Marines, you yell, we shell.)
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To: orangelobster

His being distraught over the fact that he was put in a position to and that he took another human life is what seperates him from the scum.


58 posted on 11/23/2004 5:44:16 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Thanks, but actually, we have a defense atty come in, I am merely an instructor. I have met some slimey scummy lawyers in my life but this guy is top notch. He is an NRA member and ESPOUSES OUR cause. Nice guy.


60 posted on 11/23/2004 5:50:16 AM PST by HMFIC (US Marines, you yell, we shell.)
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