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Swift boat group weighs next step
The Hill.com ^ | 11/24/04 | Peter Savodnik

Posted on 11/23/2004 5:48:42 PM PST by freespirited

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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

ping if you arent already here


51 posted on 11/23/2004 6:28:39 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: isom35

ping


52 posted on 11/23/2004 6:35:41 PM PST by Gibtx (pajamahadeen call to arms.....)
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To: ridesthemiles
I would like to see them push for an indictment of Treason against sKerry. Tie him to the 1971 meeting in Kansas City where he and others discussed killing US Senators.

The DOJ needs to either try Kerry for treason or we need to repeal those parts of the Constitution that Kerry was in clear violation of or the US Constitution means nothing if it can simply be ignored to create the appearance of get-alongedness, you don't create unity be trashing these foundations.

This traitor sits on the Senate intelligence committee and he has a fetish for conspiring with enemies against the USA. Even the fact that he didn't show up for meetings too often makes me suspect that he was creating plausible deniability.

53 posted on 11/23/2004 6:43:56 PM PST by Jim_Curtis (Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)
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To: isom35

"prevent his next senate re-election"

Uncover his discharge records and get him disqualified for office and tossed out of the Senate NOW!!!!!!


54 posted on 11/23/2004 6:44:48 PM PST by dalereed
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To: freespirited

We need these guys to remind of our heritage.


55 posted on 11/23/2004 6:50:44 PM PST by freekitty
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To: Mad Mammoth
There needs to be another Vietnam War Memorial, a museum that tells the true story, not just black wall of the dead. This is what they should do. They can tell Kerry's story there as part of a larger picture. I reckon back to the rally on the Mall that was on CSpan. This story needs to be put in context and one place in Washington for folks to learn and visit.
56 posted on 11/23/2004 6:56:31 PM PST by dalight
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To: freespirited; OneLoyalAmerican; Defender2; armyman; The Sailor; darkwing104; txradioguy; ...

David Wade, national press secretary in the Kerry campaign, characterized the Swiftvets as
“a discredited and despicable Republican smear group caught doing George Bush’s dirty work.”

Just as I predicted.

Hanoi Kerry lost so Dims now attack Viet Nam Vets, once again.

While 99 US Senators support Hanoi Kerry.

Come on Hanoi Kerry BRING IT ON!

EXPOSE HANOI KERRY!

Distribute these url's!

http://tonkin.spymac.net/hanoikerry1.html

There is a backup site
if the 1st url is unavailable.

http://stophanoikerry.150m.com/


57 posted on 11/23/2004 6:57:48 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

I don't think they should quit. They should continue research.

Then they should decommission this guy in Massachusetts.

He shouldn't be involved in any national decision making.


58 posted on 11/23/2004 7:01:23 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Kerry said he was 'weighing the option of litigation' against the Swiftvets.
Any intel on his current plans, or has he changed his mind on that?


59 posted on 11/23/2004 7:01:26 PM PST by Darksheare (Love, stay thy hand)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

I am alone is sensing an anti-SBVT bias in this piece?

Not at all, I feel it too.


60 posted on 11/23/2004 7:03:11 PM PST by proudmilitarymrs (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

It is the same way the establishment GOP think of us...useful for bodies, but the want to avoid us because we are filled with the huddled masses, not debutantes.


61 posted on 11/23/2004 7:05:00 PM PST by RaceBannon (Arab Media pulled out of Fallujah; Could we get the MSM to pull out of America??)
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To: freespirited

From article: "One possibility is that the Swiftvets will become a full-time public-relations outfit for veterans, LaCivita said. "

Great idea -

And perhaps people should wonder why McCain was so happy to see - and hug - the guy who held him captive - Might McCain have gone the same way as Kerry - only people didn't know it -


62 posted on 11/23/2004 7:05:29 PM PST by Pastnowfuturealpha
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To: Darksheare
I hope he pursues it, then he'll have to produce all his records to disprove the swifties.
63 posted on 11/23/2004 7:05:33 PM PST by AirForceMom (I have post-election elation syndrome)
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To: proudmilitarymrs; Texas_Jarhead

"I am alone is sensing an anti-SBVT bias in this piece?"

Watch for more anti Viet Nam Vet media.

ABC, AP, CBS, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NBC, NY Times
will be sure to bring you Hanoi Kerry's latest propaganda.

Hanoi Kerry lost now his attack dogs are being unleashed.

And they are out for blood.

The election is over so now they have come after us.

They know that 99 US Senators won't lift a finger.

BRING IT ON!


64 posted on 11/23/2004 7:08:53 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor!)
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To: AirForceMom

That is what I'm hoping.
Unless he finds some way to worm out of it, which is likely what he's researching right now.


65 posted on 11/23/2004 7:10:11 PM PST by Darksheare (Love, stay thy hand)
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To: xzins

"He shouldn't be involved in any national decision making."

Too bad Rush refuses to say this.

But then again Rush has sponsors and subscribers.

And he doesn't have the guts to bring this up.

Then again when was the last time you heard or saw a
"right wing" media person bring this up?


66 posted on 11/23/2004 7:13:06 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Could they be afraid of Kennedy?

My sense is that Kerry is no longer of use to Kennedy. Kennedy has one last shot to control the presidential strings, and it won't be through Kerry. (Nor through Hillary.)

That could signal that Kerry is throw-away in Mass. It could be just the time to unload on him in his own state. Knock him so far out of the ring that he never gets back in.


67 posted on 11/23/2004 7:17:23 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: RaceBannon

"...with what they see as a left-wing caricature of U.S. soldiers in Vietnam as
“crazed hippies that went around mowing people down.”

Watch for plenty of this in the media

How long till the next anti Viet Nam war?


68 posted on 11/23/2004 7:17:38 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor!)
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To: freespirited
Simon Rosenberg, president of the New Democrat Network and a contender for chairman of the Democratic National Committee, disparaged the group for “scandalous lies” and “underhanded campaign tactics” and said the media was “unbelievably irresponsible” for not being, in his view, a better watchdog.
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Enough of their crap. It is time for O'Neill to sue them and get people in court under oath. Let's end Kerry once and for all.

69 posted on 11/23/2004 7:18:02 PM PST by doug from upland (Vietnam Vets: FINALLY -- welcome home, heroes)
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To: xzins

Rush and the "right wing" media are in it for the $$$

That's all they care about.

Unlike us who get no pay at all.

We have nothing to lose.


70 posted on 11/23/2004 7:19:39 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

I think I read someplace that he's got 4 years left on this Senate seat. If so, it's far enough away that he could ride out any early attacks.

I'd say there should be H&I fire for about 3 years while research is being done.

Then open up with the big guns.


71 posted on 11/23/2004 7:24:39 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: doug from upland

Other way around, Doug. Let the Kerry crowd file suit and go a little too far so that discovery applies and a counter suit can be filed. O'Neill can be patient and bait his hook.


72 posted on 11/23/2004 7:28:11 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: xzins

He needs to be impeached now.

Enough evidence is already on hand.

Timeline of Hanoi Kerry

http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html


73 posted on 11/23/2004 7:30:46 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Free Republic, where you get the REAL stories that the media refuses to carry!)
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To: Eastbound

Agreed. At a minimum, they (and we) should work to make it impossible for John 'Hanoi' Kerry to mount a serious presidential campaign again. Even better, it needs to be revealed\publicized on a very wide scale how much the MSM and political elites covered up for 'Vichy' Kerry, how they enabled a traitorous scumbag to come rather close to becoming President of the USA. His real record and the disinformation campaign that allowed him to rise so far must still become known to tens and hundreds of millions of people. The Swiftees have done a great job so far, but I cannot understand how people can say it's all over, go home and forget about it.


74 posted on 11/23/2004 7:34:10 PM PST by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: freespirited
Larry Sabato, a University of Virginia political scientist, said Swift Boat Veterans for Truth had “neutralized” the image of Kerry as war hero. “In viewing Kerry through that lens, the public saw a very different Kerry than they had just seen at the Democratic National Convention. It was not Lieutenant John Kerry reporting for duty. It was a scruffy, antiwar activist in fatigues dumping on his colleagues,” Sabato said, referring to images, repeatedly shown on television during the campaign, of Kerry testifying before Congress...Sabato finally gets something right........
75 posted on 11/23/2004 8:42:52 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Pastnowfuturealpha
And perhaps people should wonder why McCain was so happy to see - and hug - the guy who held him captive - Might McCain have gone the same way as Kerry - only people didn't know it

Often wondered about that myself. After that POW committee and revisit to Vietnam, McCain underwent a significant change.

I could never figure out what caused it - an epiphany or something he discovered or was told?

His little soul-searching session with Kerry on the trip, where they became bosom buddies, always puzzled me. There had always been a significant breach between him and Kerry.

From opposite poles to close friends, virtually overnight? -odd.

Some shenigans with the MIA list and sudden closure of the "Vietnam issue", distressed a lot of MIA families. McCain had to be at least aware of the situation, but didn't support efforts of Rep. Bob Smith

McCain's politics mellowed dramatically, too.

76 posted on 11/23/2004 9:25:58 PM PST by Socrates1
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To: freespirited

I understood that the Swifties were going to continue investigating JF'n about his discharge and to get his military records, which if proven would eliminate him from eligibility to serve as a senator. I, for one, hope they do.


77 posted on 11/23/2004 9:29:47 PM PST by conshack
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To: Enchante
"His real record and the disinformation campaign that allowed him to rise so far must still become known to tens and hundreds of millions of people."

Yes. In the process, maybe those millions will also see once and for all how the MSM worked against the country to allow that rise. Something many of us woke up to when they covered up for Clinton. It's mind-boggling to consider how close this country was to falling into an abyss.

78 posted on 11/23/2004 9:50:53 PM PST by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be")
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To: freespirited

79 posted on 11/23/2004 11:44:04 PM PST by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: freespirited; All
If you would like to help the Swift Boat Vets ( as I have, and I urge all to do-- even a few dollars will help ) kindly click on this logo:


80 posted on 11/24/2004 1:54:23 AM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT!!!!!!!


81 posted on 11/24/2004 3:07:49 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Big Swifties ~ Bump!


82 posted on 11/24/2004 9:55:06 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: gitmo; All

"I get chillbumps when I think about what these men accomplished in 2004. And they thought their hero days were over."
===
Me too (except I call them goosebumps)!


83 posted on 11/24/2004 5:04:36 PM PST by JLO
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; ALOHA RONNIE; Ragtime Cowgirl; mhking; Vets_Husband_and_Wife; ...

Bump/Ping


84 posted on 11/24/2004 5:14:56 PM PST by JLO
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To: Socrates1

And perhaps people should wonder why McCain was so happy to see - and hug - the guy who held him captive - Might McCain have gone the same way as Kerry - only people didn't know it
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Often wondered about that myself. After that POW committee and revisit to Vietnam, McCain underwent a significant change.
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me too wondered.


85 posted on 11/24/2004 5:19:18 PM PST by JLO
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To: JLO

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JOHN KERRY = Enemy of Vietnam Vets

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1320



...and of Freedom-Loving people everywhere,

...still..!!!

.


86 posted on 11/24/2004 5:24:21 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: freespirited
One possibility is that the Swiftvets will become a full-time public-relations outfit for veterans, LaCivita said

Hmmm, this might be a good thing. I'd like to see where they would stand on issues.

87 posted on 11/25/2004 8:57:10 AM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (Let Kevin Sites of NBC know he's a traitor! The backlash should be on HIM not on our troop!)
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To: MEG33

How sad it is you would say something like that. Compare what you did to defeat John Kerry and weigh that against what John O'neill did. Are you so shallow as to believe John's party affiliation belittles in any why what he just did for this nation, not to mention the vast majority of Vietnam Veterans?
This is the exact reason why John kerry taught me to hate politics 30 some years ago. It's filled with weasels who shout "boo" in the dark and feel like they've made a difference.
Look at the man, and not meaningless labels. Martin Luther once said "I'd rather be ruled by an honest Turk than a dishonest Christian." I and I for one couldn't agree more.
This country was founded on freedom of thought, pursuit of Veritas (Truth), and in this postmodernistic era truth has become as meaningless as being anything in this country.
John O'neill, for a moment in time, inspired men and women to come together in a moment of history to say "No, Sen. Kerry, that's not how it happened." and the MSM is sinking like the Titanic that it is. How can you say such a preposterous statement after what has happened?
Enjoy the fresh air my friend.


88 posted on 11/27/2004 5:42:43 PM PST by Tu Dia (Tu Dia)
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To: Tu Dia
"However, I can't say that I wouldn't love to see John O'Neill run for office. Anything available down in Texas for him? Attorney General perhaps? Or, better yet, if Senator Hutchison runs for Governor, perhaps he could be appointed to the Senate? Wouldn't you love to see floor debates between him and Kerry? lol"

My comment on John's party affiliation was in reference to this statement above..
I hope the planets align for you now that you can see the reason.

A Republican Governor is not going to appoint a Democrat to fill a vacant Senate seat that belongs to a Republican Senator..That is reality.
89 posted on 11/27/2004 8:36:22 PM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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To: Tu Dia

I am mystified at your unfair weighing of my sense of importance in the election process ( I have none, zilch..)

I am too angry at your outrageous and hurtful inference that I do not appreciate the profound difference the Swift Boat Veterans and John O'Neill made in this election to properly reply..They are my heroes.

The older Free Republic Vietnam Veteran members on this board know how much I appreciate it..There are many here to vouch for me.


90 posted on 11/27/2004 8:59:19 PM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; xzins

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1289366/posts
Of interest.


91 posted on 11/27/2004 9:26:40 PM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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To: MEG33


US Constitution 14th Amendment Section 3

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress,
or elector of President and Vice President,
or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State,
who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress,
or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature,
or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the
Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection
or rebellion against the same,
or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.
But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.


Contact your current
senators and representatives
and right wing media
and find out why Hanoi Kerry still is in the US Senate.
Demand that this traitor is removed from the US Senate now!
There is no need to impeach him.
He's in violation of the US Constitution 14th Amendment Section 3


John F. Kerry
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92 posted on 11/27/2004 9:28:52 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Why do 99 US Senators allow a traitor in their midst?)
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