Posted on 11/26/2004 7:12:01 AM PST by Mike Fieschko
Muslim politicians in this country say Islamic sharia law is an inextricable part of their identity - but claim it can be practiced within the parameters of Danish democracyPolitical parties in Parliament are pressuring Muslim members to publicly disavow portions of Islamic sharia law condoning stoning, whipping and the amputation of hands.
Most parties have not urged their Muslim members to condemn portions of the traditional Islamic law pertaining to general lifestyle or religious issues such as prayer and fasting.
On Monday, Social Democratic immigration spokeswoman Anne-Marie Meldgaard issued an ultimatum to Muslim party members, demanding that they condemn sharia in order to remain in the party.
Party leader Mogens Lykketoft has so far declined comment on the ultimatum, and Meldgaard has since modified her original remarks.
"Of course it's OK to fast. As long as an individual is not acting in violation of the constitution, Danish jurisprudence, principles of equality or democracy, we can accept it. But I still maintain that people have no business with us if they place Islamic law above our democratic system, or support execution by stoning," said Meldgaard.
Social Democratic party member Hamid El Mousti, a Moroccan by birth, currently sits on Copenhagens City Council. El Mousti claims it is impossible for Muslims to disavow sharia in its entirety.
"Sharia is a part of our identity - part of being Muslim. It's unreasonable to ask us to swear off our religion - but demanding that we accept the values of Denmark is fine," said El Mousti, emphasising that he in no way condones the stoning of adulterous women or amputation of hands to punish thieves.
Centre Democrat Ben Haddou is also a member of Copenhagen's City Council, and seconds El Mousti's views.
"It's impossible to condemn sharia. And any secular Muslim who claims he can is lying. Sharia also encompasses lifestyle, inheritance law, fasting and bathing. Demanding that Muslims swear off sharia is a form of warfare against them," said Haddou, adding:
"For me, it's not a question of either/or. I can easily support sharia, but distance myself from those aspects that don't fit into the year 2004. Compare it to the constitution. Some parts are outmoded, and you might well imagine that some changes are long overdue," said Haddou.
Danish People's party leader Pia Kjærsgaard refuses to admit new members to her party if they refuse to condemn sharia law in its entirety.
"The Muslims politicians have their laundry list of complaints, but as far as I'm concerned, you're either for (sharia law) or against it. It's a package deal," said Kjærsgaard, citing the recent example of former Copenhagen Social Democrat Fatima Shah, who told Jyllands-Posten that sharia law was an "either/or" concept.
Most parties agree that members who voluntarily join the party also acknowledge the values on which the party is built.
"We have a programme that clearly outlines our beliefs. It's impossible to be a member of the Unity List and not support human rights," said Unity List MP Søren Søndergaard.
Liberal Party immigration spokeswoman Birthe Rønn Hornbech argues that sharia law represents many different things.
"There may be quite a few sharia rules that are fairly in synch with Danish law. Whether or not a private citizen supports abortion rights is none of the public's concern, but if a person declares that he or she is working to undermine Denmark's basic legal foundation, then that person does not belong in the Liberal Party," said Horbech.
Conservative MP Knud Erik Kierkegaard, Socialist People's Party MP Aage Frandsen and Christian Democrat Marianne Karlsmose say that membership in their respective parties requires prospective members to support the parties' fundamental values, and that certain elements of sharia law are incompatible with these values.
The Radical Liberals have had many heated discussions about the sharia conflict, ever since MP Sherin Khankan was suspended from Parliament after voting against a Radical Liberal-sponsored resolution condemning sharia law.
"We've seen a few examples where we've had to block people from running on our ticket. There was one county politician who came out in support of the death penalty. He wasn't nominated again. When you run for public office, you're bound to be scrutinised," said Radical Liberal justice spokeswoman Elisabeth Arnold.
OOPS! Too many errors to even attempt correction...sorry.
Its taken 9/11 to give Islam a good "airing" in the west. Lets not forget the lessons we learned: When looking for the "root cause" its not America that was to blame, the root cause lay in what was what was written in the the Quran and the hadiths. Keep spreading the word.
Someone said the other day "what percentage of the population know what Dhimmitude means?" I think this is a good indicaton of where we need to go, for a start.
As for thoughts on the GWOT in general... I made a few comments on another thread
I agree. I actually thought that Islam was a religion, as Christianity is a religion, and repected life. Clearly, I was wrong. Their "Religion" sacrifices human life to "god" all the while chanting "god is great". Hmm...chanting during human sacrifice? Isn't that what satanic rituals supposedly do? They sacrifice souls to the devil.
Good stuff...keep up the great work.
All you have said is true. Kinda makes me wonder how it has grown to include such a following. There is no way I'll ever understand why a thinking person, especially a woman, would ever choose Islam.
However, the problem of Iran and nuclear weapons is a separate, yet urgent, matter than will most likely require action before January.
As you can see from the article at the top of this thread, Sharia is a cornerstone of Islam. This demonstrates that Islam is also a political system.
Sharia is Islamic gender and religious apartheid.
Next time someone talks of Islam as a "religion," it's worth reminding them of this after you get them to look up the word "dhimmi."
You like that, huh?
Hmmm... (***thinking out loud***) I better take out a copyright on my own tagline before someone else...
privalige=privilege
I've been convinced for some time that Allah is/was the fallen angel Lucifer.
Yup.
The more I read and study, the more I am convince of same.
And when I back off and look from some distance at the results of this religion (much of which is carefully hidden from outsiders and even ignored or denied by Muslim adherents), it is impossible to reach any other conclusion except that behind this religion is a force which is pure evil.
I know Lucifer is at work in plenty of other places as well as in Islam, but he is clearly the prime mover in this religion.
The leader of the fallen angels, who was banished from ever again seeing the face of God, is causing a whole lot of trouble in this world. And Mohammed was Lucifer's follower.
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."(John 8:44)
Sounds like someone familiar...Allah.
The father of lies.
Fitting.
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