Posted on 11/26/2004 10:09:05 PM PST by CHARLITE
This past week, I have received many responses from Muslims concerning my two most recent columns: ''Followers of Islam: Can You See the Blood on Your Hands'' and ''Here Comes the Arab/Muslim Outrage.''
In one breath, some the writers would call themselves ''intellectuals'' and then accuse me of being a Jew when I put tough questions to them that they could not answer. They maintained that as an American, I just was not intelligent enough to understand Islam. The mistake these ''intellectuals'' made is believing that I have any intention of ''understanding'' Islam.
It has taken me since 9/11 to realize that civilized humans cannot understand Islam. I am just overjoyed and somewhat relieved that the world is finally waking up in time to see the rabid dog coming its way disguised as Islam.
If Bin Laden has done one good thing in his wretched life, it was to poke a stick in the eye of the world by bringing his radical beliefs forward and urging his followers to commit violent acts. It has taken some time for people to begin taking a look at Muslims in their own areas, but it is happening. The French and the English are beginning to ask themselves, ''When did this happen? When did 6 million Muslims get here and what are they planning to do?''
Approximately 33% of the world is Christian and 20% is Muslim, based on figures for the year 2000. The number of Muslims is growing at an alarming rate. Muslims immigrated to peaceful, mostly Christian countries in Europe where they had large families that were reasonably safe from the ravages of their own strict religious teachings. At least these Muslims were safe until the radical element migrated from the oppressive Middle Eastern countries and began exerting its power over the masses and started menacing the indigenous populations that took Muslims in and welcomed them over the years. The mind-control of the clerics over the average Muslim is frightening and total.
This problem is most notable in the smaller European countries such as the Netherlands and Sweden, where a backlash against Islam is growing because of the strict Islamic laws forbidding mingling with the non-Muslim citizens of a country. In short, Muslims do not fit in. They are not allowed to fit in. The religious leaders lose their total control of the people if those people are allowed to see and experience the freedom that others enjoy. This is why Islam loathes democracy. Democracy steals the power of the Islamic leaders. It gives the people the right to think for themselves and thinking people might start to question their laws. Free people will question the absolute authority and power of the Islamic leaders over every aspect of their lives from birth to often violent death.
These days, it seems that anyone who speaks out against Islam runs the risk of being murdered, as in the case of filmmaker Theo Van Gogh who was shot, stabbed, and then had his throat slit by a radical Muslim in the Netherlands. Van Gogh had made documentaries exposing the brutality directed at women under Islam. Now, mosques and Muslim schools have been burned and the normally peaceful Dutch are considering closing their borders at the very least and perhaps even expelling Muslims from their country. As one Dutch citizen said on a blog, ''This country is a free country but we can’t even speak anymore without wondering if some Muslim will murder us.'' The hate and unrest towards the followers of Islam is growing. It is just a rumble now, but it will get louder as the killing and bombing continues across Europe.
A recent report on Fox News showed the hostility growing between the Swedes and their Muslim population. There are Muslim areas where firefighters and emergency personnel will not enter without a police escort because they will be attacked. Firefighters attempting to put out a fire in a mosque were stoned. The anger between these two forces in Sweden is growing and the most liberal country in Europe is contemplating the same action as the Netherlands. It seems Muslims feel their neighborhoods are not a part of Sweden anymore but theirs, to do with as they see fit. The Swedish government does not see it that way. In those pockets of Islamic rule, poverty is common, unemployment is high, and the clerics foment hate and point fingers of blame on the evil West for Muslims' lot in life.
In France, which has the largest Muslim population in Europe, Islamic clerics openly troll the streets seeking restless young men to indoctrinate and send out to kill for Islam. They weed out the weaklings by having them view videos of the actual torture and beheadings of human beings complete with the screams of pain and all blood and gore of a nightmare. They watch Islamic ''snuff films.'' This is what will be expected of them as ''warriors'' of Allah.
Here in the United States we have a different set of problems. America is just too large for Islam to overpower by reproduction. It has also been impossible to isolate its followers from the American population and American Muslims are far less likely to follow the path of death and destruction. Here, they take a different tact.
Radical Islam is rampant in the prisons, converting the worst of the worst so that when they leave prison they are unleashed on society as pre-programmed, radical Islamic killing machines. On the outside they appear as average Americans which allow them to move about the country unencumbered and overlooked. These killing machines wait for their orders to kill and terrorize, cared for and protected by the radical Islamic element within our own borders.
Muslims live in the past where they had their glory days of conquest and power. They often refer to the Crusades, which ended around 1300, as if they happened last year. I am constantly reminded of Wounded Knee and American slavery. Wounded Knee took place in 1890 and slavery ended in the 1860s.
Muslim writers love to point out the Spanish Inquisition, which was an over-reaction to the conquests of Islam in Spain and was just as much political as religious. The Inquisition officially ended in 1834. What they fail to mention is that it was not only Muslims that were persecuted, but Jews and Protestants as well. Muslims always see themselves as the only victims of injustice in the world. Muslims also fail to mention that the Pope tried to intervene and stop the Inquisition but was unable to exert his power on the political machine.
We Catholics look at this period in our history with shame, not pride. Belief in God or Jesus cannot be forced on someone; it must come from the heart. Forced conversion is not done out of love, but fear. Islam can control one's body, but it cannot control one's thoughts. Converts that are forced will not stay with Islam. They will leave it at the first opportunity.
This is knowledge that has escaped the Islamics. As they condemn the Spanish Inquisition, Islam is doing the same right now in countries such as Sudan. What Muslims are doing in Sudan is far worse than the Spanish Inquisition. Humanitarian groups estimate that since 1983, an estimated 2 million people have died from war and related famine in Sudan at the hands of the Islamic leaders. Anyone refusing to denounce Jesus and accept Islam is executed. Rape is used as a weapon. It seems that all modern-day Islam needs is a coliseum with some lions. Trapped in the past, Muslims call the coalition forces ''crusaders.''
Since the attack on 9/11 here in the United States, the enemy has been exposed. The havens of safety in Afghanistan and Iraq have been taken from the Islamics. In its fury, Islam has made many mistakes. The attacks in Spain and in Bali and murders in the Netherlands and elsewhere have made the world realize that Islam is not just the enemy of America, but the enemy of the entire free world.
Some people were foolishly saying that America deserved to be attacked but when death came to their shores, they were taken aback. They had welcomed Muslims with open arms and this is how they are repaid for their kindness? Some countries are instituting laws that make our Patriot Act pale in comparison. Threatening tapes released by Bin Laden have had the opposite effect.
Instead of cowering, the world is beginning to look Islam in the eye and say, emphatically and collectively: ''NO! This will not be allowed.'' If it was a final crusade that Islam wanted, they have it.
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Ahhhhh, the beauty of islam - you can beat or kill your wives ANY day of the year!!!
Praise allah!
They say never to awaken a sleepwaker. We need reason and
unity rather than blind rage to defeat the enemy, so easy does it.
What they're "getting" from this woman is the idea that all muslims are the same. There are many sects.(besides nationalities).
She mentions that radicals are the problem. This is why I said yesterday, that we need the help of average muslims. The average muslim needs to fight against the radicals overtaking their religion. And they are speaking out about this. (I refer you again to Dr. Jasser's articles)(and also check out Shavkh Hisham Kabbani, founder of the Islamic Supreme Council of America (ISCA) Kabbani is a sufi, btw.)
"these Muslims were safe until the radical element migrated from the oppressive Middle Eastern countries and began exerting its power over the masses and started menacing the indigenous populations that took Muslims in and welcomed them over the years."
It's the radicals/extremists. It is not all muslims.
Have your other eye checked, Jonesy. There is nothing good about this religion!
If you encounter a "good" muslim you have met a "cafeteria" muslim (apologies to my Catholic brothers and sisters).
Respectfully, Naziism has nothing to do with Islam and vice versa.
Rather than continue to present your ignorance of this cult, how about reading the first 9 chapters of the koran and then coming back and telling us whether or not you believe UBL is actually perverting the teachings of islam, or following them.
Unlike most moslems, I have read some of the koran and was thoroughly disgusted by it. It, islam, thrives on ignorance and deception, do your homework. UBL is a true follower of islam. Islam commands moslems to kill Jews, Christians and non-moslems. Jesus Christ commands me to love my enemies. There is no comparision.
Care to quote an actual passage from the New Testament?
Muslim Brotherhood, Nazis and Al Qaeda [Speech by John Loftus]
If you find solace or comfort in this, who am I to bject?
bject = object
"I don't know if the problem really is the religion or just the people who interpret it to suit their own twisted ends."
Exactly. That's what the radicals/extremists/terrorists do.
"shouldn't we be going after the perverted version, the "evil" strain, rather than all of the religion?"
Exactly, again.
Welcome to FR.
Factoid: There are are more "Jedis" than there are Jews in England.
From Religion in Britian
| Thousands | % pop | |
|---|---|---|
| Christian | 42079 | 71.6 |
| No religion | 9104 | 15.5 |
| Muslim | 1591 | 2.7 |
| Hindu | 559 | 1.0 |
| Jedi Knight | 390 | 0.7 |
| Sikh | 336 | 0.6 |
| Jewish | 267 | 0.5 |
| Other | 179 | 0.3 |
| Buddhist | 152 | 0.3 |
| Total religious: | 45163 | 76.8 |
| No answer | 4289 | 7.3 |
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"There is no separation of "perverted islam" from islam as a whole. They pray in the same mosques, they listen to the same clerics,...."
Totally wrong.
"the insane fundamentalists have hijacked this religion"
That's what they are trying to do.
That's why we need the help and cooperation of muslims in order to win this WOT. W need them to condemn and get rid of the radical extremists.
Bumped and bookmarked.
We all saw the good Muslims dancing in the streets when they learned about the massive destruction and loss of life in New York on 9/11.
http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/response.htm
"yesterday you implied those that are anti Muslim are bigots. You need to understand our point of view. Since we truly believe it is an evil cult, how do you expect us to embrace it with open arms?"
The definition of a bigot (in this case muslim bigot), is one who isn't tolerant.....No one is expecting you to embrace islam with "open arms.
"I, as I'm sure most on this board, just want to know what the truth is and then deal with it."
The truth is, there are different muslim sects, and muslims come in many colors, nationalities,etc. The truth is, most on the board don't sound tolerant to me. Do they to you? Intolerance to an entire race, creed, religion of people is bigoted.
"So, if we disagree, lets all try to be respectful and try to use persuasion and facts to teach our point of view."
Are you addressing this to the disrespectful people posting their prejudiced, nasty comments toward muslims as a whole?
They provide insight into the Muslim mind as seen in hindsight...
...quite a different perspective.
Nuconvert, I agree with most of what you say on Islam, but lets not categorize the posters here that we disagree with as being bigots necesarily, though there may be a similarity on the surface.
Most of these people are just angry at what the terrorists are doing and anger is known to be hasty and a little too quick to ignore finer details.
That is why I thank God that George W Bush is not a hot head and recieves steady council.
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