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The Sleeping World Is Awakening to the Dangers of Islam
CHRONWATCH.COM ^ | NOVEMBER 27, 2004 | BARBARA STOCK

Posted on 11/26/2004 10:09:05 PM PST by CHARLITE

This past week, I have received many responses from Muslims concerning my two most recent columns: ''Followers of Islam: Can You See the Blood on Your Hands'' and ''Here Comes the Arab/Muslim Outrage.''

In one breath, some the writers would call themselves ''intellectuals'' and then accuse me of being a Jew when I put tough questions to them that they could not answer. They maintained that as an American, I just was not intelligent enough to understand Islam. The mistake these ''intellectuals'' made is believing that I have any intention of ''understanding'' Islam.

It has taken me since 9/11 to realize that civilized humans cannot understand Islam. I am just overjoyed and somewhat relieved that the world is finally waking up in time to see the rabid dog coming its way disguised as Islam.

If Bin Laden has done one good thing in his wretched life, it was to poke a stick in the eye of the world by bringing his radical beliefs forward and urging his followers to commit violent acts. It has taken some time for people to begin taking a look at Muslims in their own areas, but it is happening. The French and the English are beginning to ask themselves, ''When did this happen? When did 6 million Muslims get here and what are they planning to do?''

Approximately 33% of the world is Christian and 20% is Muslim, based on figures for the year 2000. The number of Muslims is growing at an alarming rate. Muslims immigrated to peaceful, mostly Christian countries in Europe where they had large families that were reasonably safe from the ravages of their own strict religious teachings. At least these Muslims were safe until the radical element migrated from the oppressive Middle Eastern countries and began exerting its power over the masses and started menacing the indigenous populations that took Muslims in and welcomed them over the years. The mind-control of the clerics over the average Muslim is frightening and total.

This problem is most notable in the smaller European countries such as the Netherlands and Sweden, where a backlash against Islam is growing because of the strict Islamic laws forbidding mingling with the non-Muslim citizens of a country. In short, Muslims do not fit in. They are not allowed to fit in. The religious leaders lose their total control of the people if those people are allowed to see and experience the freedom that others enjoy. This is why Islam loathes democracy. Democracy steals the power of the Islamic leaders. It gives the people the right to think for themselves and thinking people might start to question their laws. Free people will question the absolute authority and power of the Islamic leaders over every aspect of their lives from birth to often violent death.

These days, it seems that anyone who speaks out against Islam runs the risk of being murdered, as in the case of filmmaker Theo Van Gogh who was shot, stabbed, and then had his throat slit by a radical Muslim in the Netherlands. Van Gogh had made documentaries exposing the brutality directed at women under Islam. Now, mosques and Muslim schools have been burned and the normally peaceful Dutch are considering closing their borders at the very least and perhaps even expelling Muslims from their country. As one Dutch citizen said on a blog, ''This country is a free country but we can’t even speak anymore without wondering if some Muslim will murder us.'' The hate and unrest towards the followers of Islam is growing. It is just a rumble now, but it will get louder as the killing and bombing continues across Europe.

A recent report on Fox News showed the hostility growing between the Swedes and their Muslim population. There are Muslim areas where firefighters and emergency personnel will not enter without a police escort because they will be attacked. Firefighters attempting to put out a fire in a mosque were stoned. The anger between these two forces in Sweden is growing and the most liberal country in Europe is contemplating the same action as the Netherlands. It seems Muslims feel their neighborhoods are not a part of Sweden anymore but theirs, to do with as they see fit. The Swedish government does not see it that way. In those pockets of Islamic rule, poverty is common, unemployment is high, and the clerics foment hate and point fingers of blame on the evil West for Muslims' lot in life.

In France, which has the largest Muslim population in Europe, Islamic clerics openly troll the streets seeking restless young men to indoctrinate and send out to kill for Islam. They weed out the weaklings by having them view videos of the actual torture and beheadings of human beings complete with the screams of pain and all blood and gore of a nightmare. They watch Islamic ''snuff films.'' This is what will be expected of them as ''warriors'' of Allah.

Here in the United States we have a different set of problems. America is just too large for Islam to overpower by reproduction. It has also been impossible to isolate its followers from the American population and American Muslims are far less likely to follow the path of death and destruction. Here, they take a different tact.

Radical Islam is rampant in the prisons, converting the worst of the worst so that when they leave prison they are unleashed on society as pre-programmed, radical Islamic killing machines. On the outside they appear as average Americans which allow them to move about the country unencumbered and overlooked. These killing machines wait for their orders to kill and terrorize, cared for and protected by the radical Islamic element within our own borders.

Muslims live in the past where they had their glory days of conquest and power. They often refer to the Crusades, which ended around 1300, as if they happened last year. I am constantly reminded of Wounded Knee and American slavery. Wounded Knee took place in 1890 and slavery ended in the 1860s.

Muslim writers love to point out the Spanish Inquisition, which was an over-reaction to the conquests of Islam in Spain and was just as much political as religious. The Inquisition officially ended in 1834. What they fail to mention is that it was not only Muslims that were persecuted, but Jews and Protestants as well. Muslims always see themselves as the only victims of injustice in the world. Muslims also fail to mention that the Pope tried to intervene and stop the Inquisition but was unable to exert his power on the political machine.

We Catholics look at this period in our history with shame, not pride. Belief in God or Jesus cannot be forced on someone; it must come from the heart. Forced conversion is not done out of love, but fear. Islam can control one's body, but it cannot control one's thoughts. Converts that are forced will not stay with Islam. They will leave it at the first opportunity.

This is knowledge that has escaped the Islamics. As they condemn the Spanish Inquisition, Islam is doing the same right now in countries such as Sudan. What Muslims are doing in Sudan is far worse than the Spanish Inquisition. Humanitarian groups estimate that since 1983, an estimated 2 million people have died from war and related famine in Sudan at the hands of the Islamic leaders. Anyone refusing to denounce Jesus and accept Islam is executed. Rape is used as a weapon. It seems that all modern-day Islam needs is a coliseum with some lions. Trapped in the past, Muslims call the coalition forces ''crusaders.''

Since the attack on 9/11 here in the United States, the enemy has been exposed. The havens of safety in Afghanistan and Iraq have been taken from the Islamics. In its fury, Islam has made many mistakes. The attacks in Spain and in Bali and murders in the Netherlands and elsewhere have made the world realize that Islam is not just the enemy of America, but the enemy of the entire free world.

Some people were foolishly saying that America deserved to be attacked but when death came to their shores, they were taken aback. They had welcomed Muslims with open arms and this is how they are repaid for their kindness? Some countries are instituting laws that make our Patriot Act pale in comparison. Threatening tapes released by Bin Laden have had the opposite effect.

Instead of cowering, the world is beginning to look Islam in the eye and say, emphatically and collectively: ''NO! This will not be allowed.'' If it was a final crusade that Islam wanted, they have it.

About the Writer: Barbara is a registered nurse who enjoys writing about politics and current events. She has a website at http://www.republicanandproud.com/

Barbara receives e-mail at dickens502003@yahoo.com


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To: weenie

Yes, it is a different perspective.
Wanting to convert is fine. Wanting to kill them all is not.


121 posted on 11/27/2004 2:18:00 PM PST by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: F15Eagle
If it was a final crusade that Islam wanted, they have it.

It doesn't get any clearer than that. Unfortunately our leaders and the media refuse to see it that way. Remember how quickly President Bush was forced to clarify his remarks when he,IMO, let slip the word "crusade" in a briefing shortly after 9/11? I'll doubt anyone who doesn't follow politics even remembers that one. He was stating the truth, but sometimes the truth is too much for a people to digest. Perhaps OBL is the incarnate for the 'beginning of the end of the world'. Ask yourself, how many European countries have been infiltrated by radical Muslims already?Hmmm? France,Holland,Denmark, heck there are 1.6 million people who call themselves the Muslims in Britain alone.

122 posted on 11/27/2004 2:22:19 PM PST by Pagey (Hillary talking about the bible is as hypocritical as Bill carrying one out of church for 8 years)
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To: JFK_Lib

No one is catagorized because they have a different opinion. People can differ in opinion without making prejudiced, bigoted remarks. Anger is understandable. I'm angry at the terrorists.
The posters are adults. I have to assume they know what they're saying. If they feel they've spoken in haste or error or out of emotion before thinking, they are free to apologize or correct their statements.
(don't hold your breath)


123 posted on 11/27/2004 2:28:05 PM PST by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: F15Eagle

Death To all Islamofascist terrorists ~ Bump!


124 posted on 11/27/2004 2:28:45 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: nuconvert
Wanting to convert is fine. Wanting to kill them all is not...

Killing innocents is not all right. And fighting an enemy that is driven by irrational hatred cannot be defeated if we are also infected by that hatred.

In my opinion, the fight is not with the people of Islam but with a religion and ideology that is, at its root, dangerous. When its adherents are lukewarm, they are not particularly different than anyone in western culture.

But when moderates encounter imams who draw them to the core of the religion, a change occurs. When these lukewarm believers are ignited, they become explosive.

125 posted on 11/27/2004 2:30:34 PM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: nuconvert
Let me clarify one thing I said in my last post.

I don't mean that all moderates become fanatics when lead by an inflammatory imam. But some do become fanatical and the others seem to be willing to become apologists or at the least enablers for the fanatics in their midst.

126 posted on 11/27/2004 2:41:31 PM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: weenie

Of course. Fanatics in any religion can be dangerous.

Here's a couple of articles you should find interesting by Dr. Jasser in Arizona.......

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1250526/posts


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1161884/posts


127 posted on 11/27/2004 2:44:02 PM PST by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: nuconvert

Baloney...Let me know when fanatically devout Catholics or Methodists or Jews kill 3,000 innocent civilians (and actually hoped for more) in an act of terrorism.


128 posted on 11/27/2004 2:52:30 PM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: nuconvert
Have read these articles before and they are nice...but also the vy rare exception.

Moderates around the world had better leap forward or face a massive religious war...one started by members of their religion.

There is a war and as you read on this forum, opinion vary widely...some are moderate, some are extreme...

...but, this is not a possible war...this is WAR.

Comments from moderate Muslims have been pathetically inadequate...

and the visions of Muslims dancing in the streets when the WTC Towers were destroyed will never be forgotten.

129 posted on 11/27/2004 3:00:28 PM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: weenie

Acts of terrorism by fanatics in different religions occur fairly frequently.(it has been quiet in N.Ireland lately) Not on the same scale as 9/11 was, but that was also unexpectedly horrific, as no one could have predicted that the buildings would collapse.


130 posted on 11/27/2004 3:04:48 PM PST by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: weenie

And what of the muslims who stood in the streets with candles after 9/11?
Did the media ever cover them?


131 posted on 11/27/2004 3:07:59 PM PST by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
The vast majority of Americans refuse to acknowledge that we are in a war for our very survival and fail to see the seriousness of what we are involved with. The technocratic aspects of it bore the masses and it all seems like some high tech software game. Until it becomes intensely personal and bloody here at home we are doomed to complacency and view it all as much ado about nothing! This is the real danger we must guard against if we are to survive!
132 posted on 11/27/2004 3:08:15 PM PST by winker
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To: nuconvert
as no one could have predicted that the buildings would collapse.

Oh brother...that is too lame to merit a response.

Try the Democratic Underground...I think you'll find a sympathic audience.

133 posted on 11/27/2004 3:13:08 PM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: weenie

"that is too lame to merit a response."

It isn't lame. It's a fact. That's why there was a long investigation into trying to determine how it happened.

I've never been to DU and I'm sure I wouldn't fit in.


134 posted on 11/27/2004 3:19:56 PM PST by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: nuconvert

You'd fit in fine.


135 posted on 11/27/2004 3:20:42 PM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: nuconvert
I was addressing everyone to be respectful of others. If I was disrespectful to you yesterday,nuconvert then I do apologize. My intention was not to be disrespectful or hateful to you or your opinion.

I do not hate Muslims. But I don't accept an ideology that wants to kill me either. Although it may appear there is only a small percentage that are radical, I believe that what you call "moderate" Muslims will stand behind their fellow Muslims before they will turn on them and stick up for the Americans.

I haven't heard any of them speak out against what happened on 9/11. Why is that? It probably is fear. So when the radicals decide to attack us again, who do you think the moderates are going to stand with? That is my question. If they follow the Quran and so called non believers are infidels, where does that leave us non Muslims? How many Muslims are Muslims because they have no choice? When a "religion" has as its objective to have the entire world be under Islamic rule, then I'm concerned. As a Christian, I would like the entire world to be Christian, but it is a free choice that one can make, and I certainly wouldn't want to kill those who don't accept Christ's gift.

Look at what happened to Van Gogh in the Netherlands. He exposed how the woman in this "religion" are mistreated and he was slaughtered for it.
We should be able to speak out about injustice or mistreatment, without being killed for it.

I would still like to know how you reconcile the Quran's commands to kill infidels and how I, as a Christian, should not feel threatened by that?
136 posted on 11/27/2004 3:23:42 PM PST by jan in Colorado (The truth shall set you free)
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To: weenie

You're new here.
You don't know me and haven't read my posts for the past yr and 8 months.


137 posted on 11/27/2004 3:24:27 PM PST by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: jan in Colorado

Muslims are individuals and may follow the Koran as Christians may follow the Bible...(they stress some verses more than others and ignore some)
You'll find answers to your 9/11 and terrorism questions here.....

http://www.islamicsupremecouncil.org/bin/site/wrappers/splash.asp
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/718337/posts
http://www.aicongress.org/index.htm
http://www.islamdenouncesterrorism.com/
http://www.rayhawk.com/classics/matusa/aboutus.html
http://www.apaam.org/index.html
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_37_18/ai_92589581


139 posted on 11/27/2004 3:54:36 PM PST by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: nuconvert
Here's an entire site dedicated to Muslims Condemning Terrorist Attacks:

http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

However, lets not forget Muslims may lie -- taquiya, or takeyya, the Islamic principle of lying for the sake of Allah.

Here is what I found in regard to these so called "Moderates":

American Muslim Alliance and American Muslim Council

AMC on terrorism: "We are all supporters of Hamas! Allahu Akhbar! ... I am also a supporter of Hezbollah" (AMC founder Abdurahman Alamoudi, Associated Press, Jan. 9, 2002).

AMC on the United States: "I think if we were outside this country, we can say, 'Oh, Allah, destroy America,' but once we are here, our mission in this country is to change it. There is no way for Muslims to be violent in America, no way. We have other means to do it. You can be violent anywhere else but in America" (Alamoudi to Islamic Association of Palestine, Chicago, Dec. 29, 1996).

AMC on Hamas: "Hamas is not a terrorist group. ... I have followed the good work of Hamas. ... They have a wing that is a violent wing. They had to resort to some kind of violence" (Alamoudi, National Press Club, Nov. 22, 1994).

AMC on al-Qaeda: "They are involved in a resistance movement" (Vickers, MSNBC's Hardball With Chris Matthews, June 27, 2002 ).

1998, the American Muslim Council, the American Muslim Alliance and the Council on American-Islamic Relations sponsored a rally at Brooklyn College in New York City, New York where militant speakers urged upon the audience the path of Jihad and described Jews as "pigs and monkeys". The following year these same groups, together with the Muslim Public Affairs Council, sponsored a rally in Santa Clara, California where one speaker called for the murder of Jews.

Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)

"Those who stay in America should be open to society without melting, keeping Mosques open so anyone can come and learn about Islam. If you choose to live here, you have a responsibility to deliver the message of Islam ...... Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." - Omar Ahmad

"I am in support of the Hamas movement." -Nihad Awad

" I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future... But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education." -Ibrahim Hooper

"CAIR does not support these groups publicly." (when asked about CAIR's record of supporting Hamas, Hezbullah and other official terrorist groups) -Ibrahim Hooper

"I bring to you salaams and greetings from the Mujahadeen at CAIR." (Statement made during a Washington D.C. rally)

"Anyone over 18 is automatically inducted into the service and they are all reserves. Therefore, Hamas, in my opinion, looks at them as part of the military." -Ghazi Khankan

Since well before 9/11, CAIR and other organizations have alleged to speak on behalf of Americas peaceful, moderate Muslims, while simultaneously lending support and funds to terrorist causes.

CAIR is a direct outgrowth of the Islamic Association of Palestine (IAP). According to Oliver Revell, the FBI's former associate director of Counter-IntelligenceOperations, the IAP is an organization that has directly supported [the Palestinian terror group] Hamas' military goals.

At the Islamic Association of Palestine's third annual convention in Chicago in November 1999, CAIR President Omar Ahmad gave a speech at a youth session praising suicide bombers who "kill themselves for Islam." "Fighting for freedom, fighting for Islam that is not suicide. They kill themselves for Islam".

Islamic Society of North America

According to terrorism expert Steve Emerson, ISNA:

* has held fundraisers for terrorists (e.g., after Hamas leader Musa Marzuk was arrested, it raised money for his defense, claiming he was innocent and not connected to terrorism)

* has condemned US seizure of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad assets in the United States after 9/11

* has consistently sponsored speakers at their conferences that defend Islamic terrorists. Recently, a leader denied in an interview with an NBC affiliate that ISNA took any Saudi money but that was a brazen lie as evidenced by a recording of an ISNA conference in which it was revealed that money came from Saudi Arabia.

"ISNA," says Emerson, "is a radical group hiding under a false veneer of moderation."

Islamic Circle of North America

Regarding the Universal Heritage Foundation's patron organization, the ICNA [Islamic Circle of North America] counter terrorism expert Steven Emerson stated that: 'The ICNA’s hatred of the Jews is so fierce that it taunted them with a repetition of what Hitler did to them.' In his book - American Jihad - Emerson writes that, 'The ICNA openly supports militant Islamic fundamentalist organizations, praises terror attacks, issues incendiary attacks on western values and policies, and supports the imposition of Sharia [Islamic code of law].

AMPAC (on bin Laden being responsible for 9/11)

The Sharî'ah demands proof. There are already religious rulings from the highest authorities in the Muslim world, such as the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, condemning the terrorist attacks and calling for the perpetrators to be punished. All that remains is the proof linking these crimes to Bin Laden.

To make demands on Afghanistan without showing proof is just bullying. To put Afghanistan in the cross hairs without showing proof is vigilantism. To pull the trigger is murder. -Amir Butler

Canadian Society of Muslims

Critics say moderation within the Muslim community is only a facade concealing a bitter emnity towards western liberal, pluralist society and supporting militant violence internationally.

"There's certainly some evidence that some of them - perhaps not all of them - have a different story to tell when they're speaking not in English, usually Arabic," says retired Canadian diplomat Martin Collacott.

140 posted on 11/27/2004 3:57:32 PM PST by Tx Angel
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