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What a maroon!
1 posted on 11/29/2004 9:00:31 AM PST by TERMINATTOR
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To: TERMINATTOR

Moron?


2 posted on 11/29/2004 9:00:45 AM PST by RushCrush (I Heart Halliburton)
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classic case of using the exception to prove the rule.


3 posted on 11/29/2004 9:02:16 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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The details of what really happened will have to be sorted out.

But no matter what details emerge, the events invariably support my position.

6 posted on 11/29/2004 9:03:21 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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The notion that more no guns will ever translate into less violence has always been absurd.
7 posted on 11/29/2004 9:06:16 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionists give me the Willies!!!)
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The notion that more guns will ever translate into less violence has always been absurd.

There are approximately two million defensive gun uses per year by law abiding US citizens.

8 posted on 11/29/2004 9:07:25 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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This is typical of the gun control argument. They take a single isolated incident and use it to support their position. How often has this type of thing happened? Not very often or the press wouldn't be on it like ants at a picnic.

What he doesn't mention is that only ONE of the victims was armed. The others were unarmed. The killer could have done the same thing with a bow and arrow or a club.

The weapon didn't kill these people, the nut holding it did.

9 posted on 11/29/2004 9:10:27 AM PST by mbynack
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bump


10 posted on 11/29/2004 9:11:18 AM PST by blackeagle
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I saw this editorial the other day in the Madison, Wisconsin State Journal. To be honest, I found it so outrageous I couldn't finish reading it. I still can't read it.

The message written between the lines is this: "The totalitarian socialist state won't be fully realized until the masses are unarmed and defenseless."

11 posted on 11/29/2004 9:12:33 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski (No good deed goes unpunished.)
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To address this twit's second point, having access to and knowing how to use guns didn't do squat for the dead hunters because THEY WEREN"T CARRYING THEIR GUNS (except one guy). If the hunters had all been armed, Vang would have had a very short and exciting life once he started shooting.


12 posted on 11/29/2004 9:13:22 AM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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The victims in Sawyer County had access to guns and knew how to use them.

Idiots. Having "access" is very different from having a firearm in your immediate possession when threatened. The hunters murdered by Vang did not have their weapons in their immediate possession. None had any expectation of engaging in close quarters combat with an armed assailant. Deer don't shoot back.

There isn't anything special about an SKS. It's just another magazine fed semi-auto rifle. It probably was not even an SKS, but actually a Saiga Sporter AK-47 variant with a magazine well that fits only Saiga supplied 10-round magazines. Vang did reload according to reports.

14 posted on 11/29/2004 9:14:52 AM PST by Myrddin
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The victims in Sawyer County had access to guns and knew how to use them. Most of the dead had long experience with their weapons. But they were not prepared for a confrontation with a man who was ready to kill and was carrying a semiautomatic weapon.

The hunters that were shot were probably used to a lifetime of collegiality among hunters, who sometimes accidentally cross property lines, but leave gladly and willingly when their trespass is discovered. They were not prepared to be shot on their own property for asking someone to leave. They were not prepared to deal with a crazed SE Asian who obviously has learned to play the race card just like the good little liberal social engineering thrall that he is.

There was only one gun among the hunters that were shot, a detail that seems to have escaped the writer of this 'opinion'. And I guarantee that if the Hmong shooter had been killed by a 'white' hunter before he could have done the damage he did, this same liberal snot-nosed writer would be calling this a hate crime.

15 posted on 11/29/2004 9:15:50 AM PST by spodefly (I've posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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These gun-grabbing lunatics haven't a clue what they ask for.


16 posted on 11/29/2004 9:16:54 AM PST by shellshocked
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It's possible that "Myth" 2 was upheld rather than nullified. The killer was apparently a US Army veteran and probably felt like his life was in danger so used his training and a medium powered semiautomatic weapon to defend his life. I'm not saying he made the correct decision in hunting without authorization on private land or carrying more than 5 rounds for hunting, but that doesn't mean he didn't use a firearm in self defense.


17 posted on 11/29/2004 9:18:56 AM PST by garandag (Guns don't save lives, people with guns save lives.)
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Moral: do not confront without backup. Or do not confront.

Hunters do not kill each other. Hunters scout before the season and always obtain permission from the landowner. Hunters know where they are and who's land they are hunting on.

The thing I hate most about this (after loss of life) is that millions of responsible hunters will take the heat for this. When will we learn not to throw the baby out with the bathwater? One just cannot be protected from the criminally insane or stupid. It is not possible. What possible new law could be necessary that would have prevented this debacle? Perhaps a bounty on trespassers... I don't think that will fly.


19 posted on 11/29/2004 9:21:33 AM PST by papadoc1945
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Of course the libs will use an isolated incident like this to push for more gun control, but when someone uses it to point out the folly of our immigration policy, they'll irritably scream, "It's just an isolated incident!"
20 posted on 11/29/2004 9:23:21 AM PST by inquest (Now is the time to remove the leftist influence from the GOP. "Unity" can wait.)
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21 posted on 11/29/2004 9:25:28 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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"The Boston Strangler", a smooth-talking sadist who savagely murdered thirteen women during an eighteen-month reign of sheer terror.

Andrei Chikatilo, Soviet cops finally nabbed him in 1990. He was charged with fifty-three murders, though the true total may have been much higher.

Richard Ramirez, --"The Night Stalker" He was convicted of thirteen murders and sentenced to death. According to his own estimate, Richie was responsible for even more killing than he was credited for. "I've killed twenty men, man", he told a fellow inmate.

Jane Toppan, She was eventually nabbed in Amherst, NH, October, 1901, but not before she managed to kill her own foster sister. She finally confessed to poisoning not only the Davis clan, but eleven other victims as well. Later, she would tell her lawyer that the true total was thirty-one.


Get the picture about "blaming" guns for atrocities...


22 posted on 11/29/2004 9:25:29 AM PST by Time is now (We'll live to see it......or something like it....)
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Blowing up gun myths
November 29, 2004
An editorial

Dear Editor:
Typical Democrats!
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23 posted on 11/29/2004 9:26:41 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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You mean a gun killed the hunters. I thought it was a crazed SUV.


25 posted on 11/29/2004 9:41:42 AM PST by River_Wrangler (Gun powder for me and a beer for my horse!)
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"responded by opening fire with a high-powered semiautomatic SKS carbine

The SKS is NOT particularly high powered - it is about the same as a 30-30 (a common deer rifle).

26 posted on 11/29/2004 9:53:32 AM PST by sd-joe
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