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Caution: Too Much Science May Make You Religious
Chabad ^ | Nov. 2004 | Velvl Greene

Posted on 12/01/2004 6:06:21 PM PST by yonif

Before birth, a baby lives in its mother’s womb surrounded by water. It doesn’t breathe. Its lungs are collapsed, folded between the two upper chambers of the heart. There’s a hole in its heart so the blood circulates. And there’s a tube connecting the aorta to the pulmonary artery.

Within ten minutes of birth, its lungs have to expand, the hole in its heart has to heal, the tube has to seal off.

In fact, 67 different steps have to happen in sequence so that the baby can go from a creature that lives in water to an oxygen-breathing baby. Miraculously, these things take place routinely every minute of every day.

That is science, when we understand what happens. And we know that no human being or scientist could have developed or engineered this sequence. If a company tried to build it, it wouldn’t work.

Indeed, if we knew what goes on in our very own lives, if we knew what goes on in the birth of a baby, we would get on our knees and thank G-d forever. All of the vast scientific studies that have been made over the past hundred years keep pointing to the concept of order and sequence, and therefore, in my opinion, a creator.

A professor of mathematics came into my study one day. He was a real atheist. He said to me, “I’ve just calculated that it’s impossible to have the human eye evolving in the five billion years that they give us.” He said, “The person who believes in evolution, that is the person making the leap of faith.”

Science doesn’t contradict the Torah. Science teaches us that when the Torah says, “I have created the world,” “I will care for you,” “I will heal you,” and “I will provide,” you know what? G-d was right. In 1998 it was reported for the first time in human history that enough food has been grown to feed every living person on the planet. Theoretically, no one on this earth should have to starve. And there’s a statement in Psalms that says, “You open your hands and you give to all living things its need.” G-d has provided. And that’s what science says: You know what? He was right. When a doctor heals a patient, that’s what science says: You know what? He was right. G-d has provided.

There has never been a rabbi who has ever said to a scientist, “stop searching.” There’s never been a rabbi who has said, “quit looking.” Because the ultimate believer of truth, and the Torah is all truth, will ultimately believe that anything you find in nature that is true will reflect and react to the glory of G-d.

When I was younger, I worked for the NASA program. And I looked for life on Mars. We spent hundreds of millions of dollars looking for life on Mars -- for which, if you haven’t been thanked as taxpayers before, let me thank you. During that time I asked the Lubavitcher Rebbe, “Is this right? Can I really do this? Other religions say you shouldn’t search. And the Torah doesn’t say there’s life on Mars.” The Rebbe replied in Yiddish, “Professor Green, you should look for life on Mars. And if you don’t find it there, you should look elsewhere. And if you don’t find it there, you should look elsewhere. Because for you to sit here and say that G-d didn't create life elsewhere is to put limits on G-d, and no one can do that.”


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1 posted on 12/01/2004 6:06:21 PM PST by yonif
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To: SJackson; Yehuda; Nachum; Paved Paradise; Thinkin' Gal; adam_az; Alouette; IFly4Him; Salem; ...

Ping.


2 posted on 12/01/2004 6:06:35 PM PST by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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To: yonif

Amazing isn't it.


3 posted on 12/01/2004 6:08:46 PM PST by mel
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To: yonif

Great Post!


4 posted on 12/01/2004 6:10:46 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: yonif

Great read! All truth is indeed the truth of God, and we should not fear the search!


5 posted on 12/01/2004 6:14:09 PM PST by reflecting (I'm reading what all of you are saying)
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To: yonif

looks like we're all gods creators


6 posted on 12/01/2004 6:14:25 PM PST by ALLAH-ya-out-a-here
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To: yonif

I had a question I thought of today for an evolutionist. Why does maternal DNA stop and not go on to when we were monkeys?


7 posted on 12/01/2004 6:17:22 PM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: In veno, veritas

All the carbon on earth was formed in exploding stars.

Now there is a really big miracle.


8 posted on 12/01/2004 6:28:50 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Free the Fallujah one)
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To: yonif

"That is science, when we understand what happens. And we know that no human being or scientist could have developed or engineered this sequence. If a company tried to build it, it wouldn’t work."

I agree, and I think anyone with a mind should see this. However, many just refuse to accept the concept of a creator/designer. For if one exists, then we may be accountable to him. So, in their view, we are all just products of chance or spontaneous generation.


9 posted on 12/01/2004 6:31:41 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: yonif

The Evolutionists here could do it better than God, I am sure. They just need to think a little more highly of themselves.


10 posted on 12/01/2004 6:34:07 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: yonif

Of one thing I am firmly convinced; there is not, nor can there ever be, a contradiction between science and God. The same God that wrote the Ten Commandments is the same God that wrote the laws of physics. All things are a manifestation of Him. Whenever we see what appears to be a contradiction between science and God, it is because of our limits in knowledge and understanding.


11 posted on 12/01/2004 6:39:49 PM PST by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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Now in scared the fuzzy cheese in my fridge is growing and im afraid to cut into it for fear of finding life on uranus !

he he he


12 posted on 12/01/2004 6:42:59 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Lord, place the steel of the Holy Spirit in my spine and the love of the Holy Ghost in my heart.)
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To: ops33

It was my love of human biology and physics that convinced me that God existed. Every time I look at the math I have a feeling of profound respect for our Creator.


13 posted on 12/01/2004 6:45:58 PM PST by Marie (~shhhhh...~ The liberals are sleeping....)
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To: yonif

Who is G-d?


15 posted on 12/01/2004 6:49:57 PM PST by Clypp
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To: yonif
A professor of mathematics came into my study one day. He was a real atheist. He said to me, “I’ve just calculated that it’s impossible to have the human eye evolving in the five billion years that they give us.”
This guy is just jerking off. The challenge is never doing the math, it's modeling the process. He has the wrong quals to do that.
16 posted on 12/01/2004 6:53:51 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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He has the wrong quals to do that.

And just what kind of qualifications does it take to bring a human eye into existence? Any worth noting?

17 posted on 12/01/2004 7:01:05 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
And just what kind of qualifications does it take to bring a human eye into existence? Any worth noting?

Variation, natural selection, time. For the last, maybe a quarter billion years after life goes multi-cellular.

18 posted on 12/01/2004 7:06:19 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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To: VadeRetro
Variation, natural selection, time.

And how much of these given the absence of any intelligence?

19 posted on 12/01/2004 7:12:14 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: VadeRetro
When biologists and mathematicians disagree on biology, as happened here:

Addendum B: Are the Odds Against the Origin of Life Too Great to Accept?

The point was made that to account for some evolutionary changes in hemoglobin, one requires about 120 amino acid substitutions...as individual events, as though it is necessary to get one of them done and spread throughout the whole population before you could start processing the next one...[and] if you add up the time for all those sequential steps, it amounts to quite a long time. But the point the biologists want to make is that that isn't really what is going on at all. We don't need 120 changes one after the other. We know perfectly well of 12 changes which exist in the human population at the present time. There are probably many more which we haven't detected, because they have such slight physiological effects...[so] there [may be] 20 different amino acid sequences in human hemoglobins in the world population at present, all being processed simultaneously...Calculations about the length of time of evolutionary steps have to take into account the fact that we are dealing with gene pools, with a great deal of genetic variability, present simultaneously. To deal with them as sequential steps is going to give you estimates that are wildly out." (pp. 95-6)
... go with the biologists. You have to understand the process to be modeled or it's just "Garbage in, garbage out."
20 posted on 12/01/2004 7:13:07 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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