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Should the Iraqi Election be Delayed?
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 10 December, 2004 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 12/06/2004 5:10:58 PM PST by Congressman Billybob

Many commentators have questioned whether the Iraqi elections, scheduled for 30 January, 2004, should be delayed. Such comments from anyone at the UN should be rejected out of hand. After all, the UN is dominated by dictatorships who fear free elections the way vampires fear necklaces of garlic. Plus, the UN is on a long, unrelieved run of anti-Americanism. Whatever the US favors, UN bureaucrats will instinctively oppose.

But some of the groundswell to delay the Iraqi election comes from the likes of the New York Times, who ought to know better. This is perhaps the tenth time I have quoted George Santayana’s statement, “Those who forget their history are condemned to repeat it.” Those who forget the history of the most durable democratic republic in history (the US) will not understand the path to success for any other nation.

What was the most important election in US history? We’ve had elections during wars. We’ve had elections during Depressions. But the most critical election was the first one, in 1789, when our Constitution first went into effect and George Washington, who set many examples for all Presidents to come, was first elected.

Some of the better-prepared (but less seen or read) pundits have noted that during the Civil War some states did not participate in the election of Abraham Lincoln. Yet that fact did not make his election illegitimate. There is an example clearer than that, which all sources except this column you are now reading, have missed.

How many states existed during that first presidential election in 1789? Just the original 13 states.

How many states took part in the election of George Washington in 1789? (This is not a trick question.) Only 10 states took part in that election.

A reporter or editor who was competently prepared on the subject of democracy in America would know the following facts: As of the election of 1789, two states were not part of the Union. North Carolina and Rhode Island had both failed to ratify the Constitution. As the relatively unknown fifth page of the Constitution provided, it applied only to “the states so ratifying the same.” So there were only 11 states in the Union at that time.

What was the other state missing from that election? New York did not participate because its legislature hadn’t passed an election law in time so that state could take part.

Anyone who cares to check the facts will find that only 10 states cast Electoral College votes in the election of George Washington. They’ll also find that the election of Washington was not unanimous; a total of eleven other men received votes for President in that election. But the most important aspect of that election was that it took place, and that a stable US government resulted from that.

Consider the failure of American governance which preceded that election. Under the prior constitution, the Articles of Confederation, the federal government had failed. Our diplomats were reduced to being beggars in foreign capitols, borrowing money at high rates of interest to keep the government afloat. Financial failure at home and inability to pay war debts had led directly to Shay’s Rebellion, which came close to toppling the American government, and also threatened more of the same.

It was this national failure which led to the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia. But however good the Constitution that the Convention produced might be in theory, national and international respect and legitimacy of the US could not be restored until an actual government was elected and began to function under that Constitution.

You now see the parallel with Iraq in the 21 century. Iraq is now squarely on the cusp between abject failure as a government, and possible success greater than any other Arab government in history. It has a theory of government – a constitution. But until it conducts its first honest and successful election under that constitution, there is no chance of success and the odds of failure grow by the day.

It would have been a disaster for the US to delay the election of 1789 because 3 of 13 states were not participating. For the exact same reasons, it would be a disaster for the Iraqi election of 2005 to be delayed because 4 of its 18 provinces might not be able to participate. History is a fine teacher, but only for those who bother to read it.

About the Author: John Armor is a First Amendment attorney and author who lives in the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina. CongressmanBillybob@earthlink.net


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Free Republic; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: North Carolina; US: Rhode Island; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1789; abrahamlincoln; civilwar; crazyauthor; georgessantayana; georgewashington; iraqielection; morebillybobbilge; no; nytimes; shaysrebellion; un; usconstitution
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To: Congressman Billybob
After all, the UN is dominated by dictatorships who fear free elections the way vampires fear necklaces of garlic.

I'd say more like the way vampires fear silver bullets, crucifixes, and wooden stakes. (and of course Buffy). Dictatorships fear elections because afterwords, dictators often end up dead, or at beat exiled to Uganda or Saudi Arabia.

21 posted on 12/06/2004 6:36:49 PM PST by El Gato (/)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Generally sound analysis -- BUT. Washington was "unanimous" in the sense that every elector gave him a vote. Pre-12th amendment, each elector had TWO votes. Each give Washington one of his two, and the other vote was scattered among 10 people, with Adams being elected Vice-Pres by having the second most votes. (This system is what led to the fiasco of 1800, where Jefferson and his putative Veep, Burr, tied by having the same number of votes, as ALL of their elctors voted for both, TJ having forgotten the system and not arranging to have one of his guys drop Burr!)


22 posted on 12/06/2004 6:39:31 PM PST by BohDaThone
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To: Political Junkie Too
You're right. I paused to send the correction to all three of my dead tree editors.

John / Billybob
23 posted on 12/06/2004 6:39:46 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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To: oceanview
how many people waiting to vote in florida were gunned down by AK47s and car bombs? if you don't think that is going to happen on election day in iraq, you are mistaken. absent some quick turnaround in the security situation there, it will.

Require at least one member of each family to come to the poll with an AK-47, SKS, G-3 or whatever. It hasn't been that long since bringing your arms to the poll was a requirement in Switzerland. It also tends to discourage the odd Jihadie.

24 posted on 12/06/2004 6:40:40 PM PST by El Gato (/)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Thanks for posting this link on my Iraq thread. This one slipped by me. You have it dead on in this article.

BTW ... My folks live in western N.C., and I will be sending them the link to your website so they can keep their eye out for you.

26 posted on 12/06/2004 6:45:15 PM PST by Jackknife (.......Land of the Free,because of the Brave.)
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To: 537cant be wrong

yes, security likely will be better in 3 to 6 months. if you are arguing that it will not be, then you are essentially saying the effort in iraq is failing. if the security sitution isn't improving over time, what the hell are we doing over there?


27 posted on 12/06/2004 6:46:17 PM PST by oceanview
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To: El Gato

we can't even get the iraqi police to shoot back - now you want voters to open fire?


28 posted on 12/06/2004 6:47:16 PM PST by oceanview
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To: wolf24

all we need is one major break over there to put this insurgency on the decline - a zarqawi capture, s few incidents where the iraqi forces/police actually repel some attacks and blow the insurgents away. just one break, and we can snap this thing. once the trend is in place, it will feed on itself, and then we will know that an election can be sensibly scheduled and conducted.


29 posted on 12/06/2004 6:49:55 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Congressman Billybob
Many commentators have questioned whether the Iraqi elections, scheduled for 30 January, 2004, should be delayed.

Hold the election on the appointed date.

5.56mm

31 posted on 12/06/2004 6:53:00 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: wolf24

it was part of it - but clearly many of them relocated because the element of surprise was zero.


32 posted on 12/06/2004 6:53:39 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Congressman Billybob
I just dunno. I have some major uncertainty to whether this democracy export / imposition even fits "these people."

Speaking from ignorance, but I hope that we are taking their cultural / tribal / religious norms into account with what we are doing.

33 posted on 12/06/2004 6:53:42 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: don-o

let them give it a shot. if it fails, we move into the "controlled civil war" stage of this effort, and let the shia and the kurds kill all the sunnis.


34 posted on 12/06/2004 6:58:11 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview

by better are you saying NO attacks on polling places?
i think that delaying elections will not give iraq the legitimacy that it will get if they procede on 1/30/2005.
even in the north after all this time the darn kurds are still letting us fight thier "civil war". when the north is the most U.S. friendly and stable section of iraq. 12 years of no fly protection and 1+ year of U.S. direct involvement on the ground and we still aren't getting what we pay for in U.S. blood.
i am 100% behind what we are doing in the middle east but its time to see if the iraqi are interested in self determination.


35 posted on 12/06/2004 7:13:14 PM PST by 537cant be wrong (no kittie! thats my pot pie!)
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To: oceanview
"controlled civil war" stage of this effort, and let the shia and the kurds kill all the sunnis.

I am afraid that how it plays out.

Not pretty

36 posted on 12/06/2004 7:16:04 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: oceanview

your confusing me now,
let them give it a shot? is this on or after 1/30/2005?
btw, i have no problem with the shia and kurds wiping out the sunni if they don't want to be a part of what could be a major upgrade in life overall.


37 posted on 12/06/2004 7:18:24 PM PST by 537cant be wrong (no kittie! thats my pot pie!)
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To: 537cant be wrong

yes, a shot at a unified country. not necessarily on 1/30 (for other reasons, namely the security), but in general. it might not work, and the civil war is the "alternative".


38 posted on 12/06/2004 7:30:53 PM PST by oceanview
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To: 537cant be wrong
The easy way to shut down the subhuman bombers is to announce that NO automobiles or trucks other than those manned by uniformed soldiers will be permitted on the roads on election day. Any other vehicles will be fired on immediately if they move.

We can deal with these murderers if they have to come into the street carrying weapons or explosives.

Billybob

39 posted on 12/06/2004 7:38:41 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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To: oceanview

the civil war is already happening. we just happen to be fighting it for the shia and kurds.
after an election the crux of the biscuit will be right square on those who should be actively fighting it now.
we will still be there taking the brunt of the fight but i think the iraqis will gain so much from actually having thier voice heard that even the iraqi police force may gain some backbone.


40 posted on 12/06/2004 7:51:53 PM PST by 537cant be wrong (no kittie! thats my pot pie!)
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