Law Of Nature Excludes Homosexuality, Says Australian Physician

Narth ^ | August 9, 2004 | Narth

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

August 9, 2004 - An Australian medical ethics expert told an audience at a marriage conference recently that homosexuals are excluding themselves from marriage and family by refusing to join the great "circle of life."

Dr. David van Gend told the audience, "By its very nature, homosexuality has excluded itself. It has stepped outside the circle of life--the timeless, endless natural circle of male and female, parent and offspring."

He notes that the origins of homosexual behavior are complex, but "whatever its origins, the outcome of homosexuality is best understood as a very complex state of confusion over sexual identity."

Van Gend cites the National Health and Social Life Survey published in 1994 in the U.S. In this survey, 8% of the 16-year-olds thought they were gay--but, "significantly, that by age 18 only 4% still thought they were gay, and by age 25, only 2 percent still thought they were gay. What that means is that most sexual confusion in school children clears away if left to iteslf. It doesn't need therapy or counseling. It is a passing phase..."

CNSnews.com has more details on this story: "Homosexuals Are Excluding Themselves From Marriage, Family." The Thomas More Centre in Brisbane has posted a speech on homosexuality from a medical perspective by Dr. van Gend on its web site: Thomas More Centre.

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

Here's what lesbian activist Camille Paglia had to say about homosexuality being a pausing at the prepubescent stage:

Homosexuality is not 'normal'. On the contrary it is a challenge to the norm...Nature exists whether academics like it or not. And in nature, procreation is the single relentless rule. That is the norm. Our sexual bodies were designed for reproduction...No one is born gay. The idea is ridiculous...homosexuality is an adaptation, not an inborn trait."

"We should be honest enough to consider whether homosexuality may not indeed be a pausing at the prepubescent stage where children anxiously band together by gender...current gay cant insists that homosexuality is 'not a choice;' that no one would choose to be gay in a homophobic society. But there is an element of choice in all behavior, sexual or otherwise. It takes an effort to deal with the opposite sex; it is safer with your own kind. The issue is one of challenge versus comfort.

[odoso]

"What that means is that most sexual confusion in school children clears away if left to iteslf.

Could this be one of MANY reasons why these freaks are stalking our school systems?

YES! Bingo

[justshutupandtakeit]

First of all there is no identity between "over the top gay groups" and propnents of traditional morality.

Secondly people do all manner of bizarre things without reasonable cause such as whack their dongs off and pretend they are a girl. Is that as morally neutral to you as SSAD?

[odoso]

Don't think... KNOW!

[zook]

"Van Gend cites the National Health and Social Life Survey published in 1994 in the U.S. In this survey, 8% of the 16-year-olds thought they were gay--but, "significantly, that by age 18 only 4% still thought they were gay, and by age 25, only 2 percent still thought they were gay. What that means is that most sexual confusion in school children clears away if left to iteslf. It doesn't need therapy or counseling. It is a passing phase..."

This is the most important point. It explains why the APA / "Ann Landers" approach to adolescent sexuality is so wrong.

[WildTurkey]

but many studies have concluded that the percentage of gay people is closer to 10%, with many more that are at least somewhat curious.

False propaganda alert.

[Monterrosa-24]

"Maybe being gay is a sign of sexual immaturity."

Freud's phrase for it was "psycho-sexual infantalism".

Isn't it interesting the way the faggots like to hunt among the most hormonally confused age bracket.

[gwbistheman]

I'm really suprised with alot of people on this forum. You cant publicly attack jews or blacks anymore without getting looked at funny, so everyone seems to be taking out their frustration now on gay people. I think y'all are just jelous of the lifestyle. No money-pit children, crying at 4am, and getting a dui with the family car at 17. No wife that turns into a cow approximately 30 minutes after she says I do. No minivan. Just oodles of expendable income, luxury cars, restaurant dinners, and vacations. But hey, at least you have sunday services and your vinyl sided house an a half acre lot.

[babyface00]

In this survey, 8% of the 16-year-olds thought they were gay--but, "significantly, that by age 18 only 4% still thought they were gay, and by age 25, only 2 percent still thought they were gay

Not to be morbid or insensitive, but could this statistic be an indication not of receeding homosexuality, but instead indicate the result of engaging in a particularly risk-laden lifestyle?

In other words, the percentage isn't shrinking because individuals are becoming "un-gay", its shrinking because those who were formerly gay are now dead (in a larger percentage compared to the "straight" population) and are thus not part of the survey anymore.

Perhaps to get a better count, the democratic voting model should be used, so the dead are included in the statistics.

[zook]

I replied to your post with some analogies that I believe refute your point. You respond with ad hominum attack. That makes *you* the bigot.

[gwbistheman]

p.s. anyone else's bedroom activities is noyb

[cicero's_son]

Yeah, I love the "Maybe I'm Gay" brochures.

Since they're so good at helping teens overcome their anxieties, maybe they should start handing out other brochures, like "Maybe I'm Ugly," "Maybe I'm Stupid," and "Maybe No One Really Likes Me."

[r9etb]

Why would anyone choose to be gay?

Why would anyone choose to be manic-depressive, or neurotic, or to be obsessive-compulsive, or....

The point being, it may not be a matter of choice, but it is also not necessarily a good thing. It's pretty obvious that homosexuality is a disordered sexuality.

Let us not pretend that it is a healthy and normal thing. Because we already know that it's not.

[RebelBanker]

Please cite your source or sources for the 10% figure. I believe you have fallen for a way over the top gay group's propaganda. The NIMH report I remember has the number at closer to 5%.

[MEGoody]

"Why would anyone choose to be gay?"

Why would anyone choose to be a pedophile?

Why would anyone choose to be an alcoholic?

Why would anyone choose to be a drug addict?

The answer is, no one chooses one day to be any of those things. It's something they enter into unconsciously, one step at a time.

[zook]

It's my business if they want schools to teach my kids that it's ok for them to be "gay."

[ArGee]

He notes that the origins of homosexual behavior are complex, but "whatever its origins, the outcome of homosexuality is best understood as a very complex state of confusion over sexual identity."

I hope Van Gend understands how much trouble he can get into for telling the truth on this subject.

Shalom.

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

Multiple studies show that homosexuals only constitute between 2-4% of the total population:

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1034938/posts

The 10% figure was a statistical distortion started by Alfred Kinsey, and he later recanted it and stated that homosexuals make up only about 4% of the total population.

[gwbistheman]

lol, false propganda? have u stepped on a college campus lately?

[zook]

"The answer is, no one chooses one day to be any of those things. It's something they enter into unconsciously, one step at a time."

Come on now. That's absurd. Each step is a choice. There's nothing unconsious about it at all.