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Pornography Is Anything But A Victimless Crime
Concerned Women For America ^ | Dec. 8, 2004 | Cheri Pierson Yecke

Posted on 12/09/2004 1:16:14 PM PST by Lindykim

Pornography is Anything But a 'Victimless Crime'     12/8/2004 By Cheri Pierson Yecke How many more expert studies do we need to convince ourselves of this fact?

Jud Fry -- one of the characters in the Rodgers and Hammerstein musical Oklahoma! lives in a shack that is papered with pornographic images. He is a loner, lacks social skills, and is feared by his neighbors. He is clearly capable of murder. This insight into the character of a porn addict hit the Broadway stage in 1943.

Fast forward to 2004. A sexual assault and several attempted abductions of girls in the St. Paul, Minnesota, area are allegedly the work of 19-year-old Ryan Mely, who has been charged (for starters) with second-degree criminal sexual conduct. He apparently was a loner who was feared by his neighbors. Jud Fry is a fictitious character who bought his porn from an itinerant peddler. How did Ryan Mely get his start? Apparently, pornography was a family pastime. While some dads bond with their kids by fishing or playing hockey together, it appears that Mely and his father (a convicted sex offender) shared an interest in pornography. It was reported that sexually explicit material was found at the family home and on their computer.

Is anyone really surprised that pornography is involved here? It has been 60 years since a Broadway musical portrayed what social scientists and criminal analysis have now found to be true -- addiction to pornography can lead to violent sexual behavior. Dr. Victor Cline, a clinical psychologist and expert on sexual addictions, has identified four stages of progression among his patients.

The first stage is addiction, where the attraction to porn is overpowering and the viewer keeps craving more. The next stage is an escalation to more shocking and deviant images, as the earlier ones have lost their power to stimulate. Third is desensitization, where anything earlier seen as disturbing and repulsive becomes viewed as commonplace. Finally, satisfaction cannot be reached unless the perpetrator begins acting out the activities witnessed in the pornography. In effect, fantasy must become reality.

The events in which Mely was allegedly involved appear to follow this pattern. Perhaps the same is true for Alfonso Rodriguez, the man who allegedly abducted and murdered Dru Sjodin. Rodriguez apparently had an infatuation with Dru, who worked at Victoria's Secret, an upscale lingerie shop. On several occasions he allegedly called the store where she worked, asking for her by name.

Victoria's Secret is well known for its racy, soft-porn "fashion show" where voluptuous young models strut the runways in revealing lingerie. The liberal National Organization for Women called it "exploitative" and the conservative Concerned Women for America condemned it as a "high-tech striptease." Regularly protested by both sides of the political spectrum, the company announced in April that it will no longer air this event

The last Victoria's Secret "fashion show" aired on network television November 19, 2003. Dru was abducted three days later. Could it be that Alfonso Rodriguez, a convicted sex offender, watched the show and was propelled into Dr. Cline's fourth stage of sexual deviance? This is a question his judge and jury may consider.

In an interview the night before his 1989 execution, serial killer Ted Bundy revealed the influence of pornography on his life.

A case study for Cline's four stages of addiction, Bundy started his descent into sexual deviance and murder with magazines he found in the neighbor's trash. His addiction escalated until he felt compelled to act out his desires in more than 30 murders that were accompanied with violent sexual acts.

He warned Americans: "There are those loose in [your] towns and communities, like me, whose dangerous impulses are being fueled, day in and day out, by violence in the media, in its various forms -- particularly sexualized violence ... . There are lots of other kids playing in the streets around the country today who are going to be dead tomorrow, and the next day, because other young people are reading and seeing the kinds of things that are available in the media today."

Abundant evidence has demonstrated the tragic impact of pornography. How many more expert studies do we need to convince ourselves of this fact? The elections of 2004 have sent politicians the message that morals matter, so now is the time to focus on the impact of pornography -- the so-called "victimless crime."

Cheri Pierson Yecke is a Distinguished Senior Fellow for Education and Social Policy at the Center of the American Experiment, a conservative think tank in Minneapolis. She is a former Minnesota commissioner of education and is author of The War Against Excellence. This article first appeared in the Minneapolis Star Tribune. Used with permission.  

Concerned Women for America 1015 Fifteenth St. N.W., Suite 1100 Washington, D.C. 20005 Phone: (202) 488-7000 Fax: (202) 488-0806 E-mail: mail@cwfa.org    


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cwa; filth; garbage; morality; porn; puritanpatrol; talibornagain; thoughtpolice; vile
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To: Theophilus

So anything that is potentially addictive is evil?


241 posted on 12/09/2004 2:43:38 PM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Hell man, veiwing Helen isn't risky enough?


242 posted on 12/09/2004 2:44:26 PM PST by Melas
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To: TheBigB
A porn thread on Free Republic? Now I've seen everything. ;)

I read somewhere that reading porn threads kicks off a chemical addiction in the brain (like heroin), linked to behavioral changes such as a lack of reasoning ability and a desire to criminalize private conduct.

243 posted on 12/09/2004 2:44:31 PM PST by malakhi
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To: kanecorp
i'd like to see the ratio of people who watch porn and don't turn criminal and those who watch porn and do. I think this is kind of like a gun study. Showing kids are more violent with guns than not. I"d like to see that same stat for the gun kids. Know what i mean?

As we know, most serial killers exhibit certain behavioral traits as children, and childhood experiences help shape the serial killer. I've seen statistics that nearly 100% of all adult serial killers drank milk as children! These statistics show that drinking milk as a child can lead to being an adult serial killer!

Just because there's a relationship exhibited, it does NOT prove that there's a causal effect!

My favorite point mentioned here is where they quote Ted Bundy's claims. Bundy was a world class manipulator, and he just wanted to get over on someone just one last time. Do you really want to take his word for what caused his actions?

Mark

244 posted on 12/09/2004 2:44:55 PM PST by MarkL (Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. But it rocks absolutely, too!)
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To: Modernman

I'd comment on this but viewing this thread is slowing my porn downloads. I'm feeling victimized.


245 posted on 12/09/2004 2:45:03 PM PST by FreedomAvatar
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To: dascallie

Bill Clinton taught Middle school kids more about head jobs in 8 years than porn did in 50.

Ban Bill Clinton.


246 posted on 12/09/2004 2:45:12 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (If God doesnt destroy Hollywood he owes Sodom and Gomorrah an apology.)
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To: TChris
Just as drunk driving carries a high risk of causing death and injury to the driver and others, consumption of pornography increases the likelyhood of harm to others around him.

Not a good analogy. A better analogy to porn would be getting drunk in the privacy of your own home. Being a drunk increases the likelyhood of harm to others, but it is not (nor should it be) illegal.

247 posted on 12/09/2004 2:46:01 PM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Modernman

An act performed before an audience of millions is in no way private. If someone stole a private videotape of yours and broadcast it on the internet, the principle would become clear to you.


248 posted on 12/09/2004 2:46:27 PM PST by Innisfree
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To: Politicalities
OK, now you've shifted the rebuttals to be about when someone dies from their activities. Again, misses the point. I have never claimed that the consumer of pornography will die, thereby leaving his widow with a difficult burden. You're fighting a straw man here.

Pornography contributes to real harm to real people. Pornography increases likelihood of divorce => Kids harmed. Pornography contributes to both the perversion and number of pedophiles => Kids harmed. Pornography excites and emboldens sexual predators => Women and children harmed.

I don't smoke, but I do like an occasional Big Mac. :-)

The risks to others from pornography are not imagined, they are real, and they become reality for too many victims every day.

249 posted on 12/09/2004 2:47:19 PM PST by TChris (You keep using that word. I don't think it means what yHello, I'm a TAGLINE vir)
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To: All

I don't consider myself a prude, but I do think that what we expose our minds, bodies and spirits to have lasting influence. The younger we are, the more pronounced this influence becomes. Without sounding strident, I suggest that you might want to check out the following website, which presents information regarding pornography and its possible effects, in a non-dramatic, compassionate way. Check it out:

http://www.pureintimacy.org/


250 posted on 12/09/2004 2:47:36 PM PST by julymoon (Influences)
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To: Politicalities
...where those with weak arguments resort to irrelevant personal attacks.

Oh well, what can I say, its all I got.

Since those who believe that freedom includes the freedom to engage in risky or morally-questionable behavior generally restrict that freedom to consenting adults, you are attacking an argument which has not been made.

The libertine never specified an age. Just consent.

Where do the libertines get off restricting that right to just adults? With what moral authority?

BTW why do you impose your morality on me by saying the other person has to consent.

251 posted on 12/09/2004 2:47:54 PM PST by AreaMan
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To: ContemptofCourt
the author of the article is basing her support on the rantings of Ted Bundy

Didn't you know that Ted was a trustworthy guy?

252 posted on 12/09/2004 2:49:06 PM PST by FreedomAvatar
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To: Modernman
Being a drunk increases the likelyhood of harm to others, but it is not (nor should it be) illegal.

It's a different debate, but there are a number of battered wives and children who may disagree with you.

253 posted on 12/09/2004 2:49:20 PM PST by TChris (You keep using that word. I don't think it means what yHello, I'm a TAGLINE vir)
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To: Modernman
Strawman. As you must surely know, minors are legally presumed to be unable to consent to certain things. We're talking about pornography involving only consenting adults.

So, once we get those pesky age of consent laws relaxed, everything's good to go. Is that a strawman also?
You'll have to help me along, what with the public school education and all.

254 posted on 12/09/2004 2:49:53 PM PST by AreaMan
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To: Innisfree
An act performed before an audience of millions is in no way private.

It is if only viewed by consenting adults in non-public places.

If someone stole a private videotape of yours and broadcast it on the internet, the principle would become clear to you.

The internet is not a private place. This example would be more akin to playing porn on a billboard in times square.

255 posted on 12/09/2004 2:50:25 PM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Politicalities
Your textbook examples breaking down AreaMan's weak arguments were themselves a textbook example of how to properly argue a point ...

"The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog is." --G. K. Chesterton

256 posted on 12/09/2004 2:50:42 PM PST by tx_eggman ("All I need to know about Islam I learned on 09/11/01" - Crawdad)
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To: TChris
It's a different debate, but there are a number of battered wives and children who may disagree with you.

The violation of rights there is the assault, not the drinking.

257 posted on 12/09/2004 2:51:27 PM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: AreaMan
So, once we get those pesky age of consent laws relaxed, everything's good to go. Is that a strawman also? You'll have to help me along, what with the public school education and all.

Are you favor of changing the age of consent laws? I'm not.

258 posted on 12/09/2004 2:52:30 PM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: HenryLeeII
Now, anyone who's ever seen one of their models knows that they all look like emaciated malnourished heroin addicts. There is not one "voluptuous" feature about them, except maybe their botox-laden lips.

Tyra Banks

Mark

259 posted on 12/09/2004 2:52:32 PM PST by MarkL (Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. But it rocks absolutely, too!)
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To: fr_freak
Jefferson may well have reached a point in his life where he realized slavery was wrong, but think of the independent thinking and rebellious spirit it would take to arrive at that conclusion in the midst of a society which still promotes slavery.

Jefferson reached the point where he was willing to say slavery was wrong but not actually free his own slaves. After all, they were the ones paying his bills. He was acting out of personal & political expediency, he couldn't afford to alienate his Southern base.

Contrast this with Hamilton's or Franklin's behavior regarding slavery.

Jefferson also excelled at running away from the British Military and slandering innocent men such as Adams, Hamilton, and Washington AND THEN LYING TO THEIR FACE about his actions.

Jefferson was not essential to the American Revolution, his primary skill was generating fiery rhetoric.

260 posted on 12/09/2004 2:52:34 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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