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"Silent Night" Reinstated in Mustang Christmas Program
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| 12/09/04
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Posted on 12/09/2004 10:38:26 PM PST by Kryptonite
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Good for the fine people of Mustang, Oklahoma, for standing up to Superintendent Karl Springer, but shame on him for cowering in fear of a person who saw the program ahead of time and apparently threatened legal action.
To: PhiKapMom
Karl Springer and the perp whom he claims threatened him need to be zotted, Sooner-style. Christmas is all about the birth of Christ.
To: Kryptonite
Merry CHRISTmas!!!
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posted on
12/09/2004 10:40:27 PM PST
by
Brad’s Gramma
(Proud Patriots dot com! Check it out!!!)
To: Kryptonite
There's a passage in the Bible that I think we should start looking to for inner strength and gumption these days as Christians.
The story regarding Jesus overturning of the money-changers tables outside the temple in Jeruselem has an object lesson in it that I think we should look to.
Jesus Himself became animated and took physical action to display his disgust with the apostate condition of the process. I'm not advocating physical action, but I am advocating Christians start developing some backbone, and implementing tangible efforts to neuter the ACLU and other avowed enemies of their faith.
I've had enough of the athiest hordes, and I'm not even the world's best Christian.
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posted on
12/09/2004 10:46:45 PM PST
by
DoughtyOne
(US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
To: Brad's Gramma
To: DoughtyOne
I've had enough of the athiest hordes, and I'm not even the world's best Christian.Me too. I'm not even a Sooner, but I'm taking pride in those folks who switched gears and staged their own nativity scene, as well as the kids who performed "Silent Night".
To: Kryptonite
i'm sad to see that this PC nonsense is even happening in my beloved former home state.
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posted on
12/09/2004 11:02:20 PM PST
by
Awestruck
(The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
To: Kryptonite
You and me both. I was glad to read about their actions.
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posted on
12/09/2004 11:02:44 PM PST
by
DoughtyOne
(US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: thangdatrang
Thanks for the response. I am glad that even though you aren't "convinced", that you can see the dynamics at play here and see your way clear to denounce the conserted efforts against Christianity.
While Christianity (the movement) is not perfect, the alternatives (other movements) are far less perfect and have far less to offer when it comes to morals and the directive that we try to live a good life.
Humans including Christians are falible and will fail. At least Christian's do aspire to honorable ethics and wholesome morals.
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posted on
12/09/2004 11:31:02 PM PST
by
DoughtyOne
(US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
To: Kryptonite
"religious traditions such as Kwanzaa"
Kwanzaa is not a religious tradition; it's a fraud invented from whole cloth out of hatred for "whitey."
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posted on
12/09/2004 11:45:33 PM PST
by
dsc
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To: Kryptonite
Superintendent Karl Springer had originally banned a staged nativity scene and the singing of "Silent Night" because of First Amendment concerns. No wonder the kids can't read when they leave these schools, the Superintendent can't read either. The Constitution says Government shall make no laws against religion, precisely what he did. Humanists with the club of Government in their hand, the new State Religion.
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posted on
12/10/2004 1:13:29 AM PST
by
American in Israel
(A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
To: Kryptonite
My Husband's brother lives in Mustang. This little community is the epitome of small town America, it is located on the outskirts of Oklahoma City, literally on the prier
If this PC stuff is going on here, I can't imagine what is going on in the big city.
Somehow the Liberals just don't get it that the majority of this country still want God in their everyday lives.
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posted on
12/10/2004 2:50:53 AM PST
by
Coldwater Creek
('We voted like we prayed")
To: DoughtyOne
You've got another non-christian in this battle with you.
I don't think God should be taken out of the schools and many in this Anti-Christmas movement need to understand the differences between worship, praise, entertainment, celebration, establishment etc. The removal of the knowledge of any religion/God from educational(read as not proselytizing) instruction is dangerous. We are a diverse nation and children need to know that there are many different versions of religion. They need to know it was Christian religious persecution that was a driving factor to the founding of this nation.
It is at this time of year is when I see religiuos persecution against Christians. When they take the Christians out of the public square, who is next? Who will be next to have their, "free exercise there of" denied? It's a public square, established by the government, for all the people.
Singing Christmas Carols is not establishing religion. I think the Christmas religious songs are the world most beautiful songs to a weary world. Songs of HOPE. Stamping our HOPE in our world is what this movement is about. This Sat. the Olde Stone Church is giving their Christmas Choir Concert and I am going.
When a Christian says to me MERRY CHRISTMAS, I recognize what they're saying and that you all are wishing for me and my family the VERY BEST of what you believe. What a more beuatiful thing is there than the aura of divine love?
Have a Merry Christmas and a Blessed Yule.
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posted on
12/10/2004 3:47:02 AM PST
by
EBH
(A very proud Aunt of a US Marine in Fallujah)
To: Kryptonite
I heard a beautiful song about the baby Jesus while shopping in a GAP store yesterday. I never heard the song before, and thought it might be on a Christian radio station. When I asked the cashier about the music, she said corporate headquarters sent the CD. Another clerk was quietly singing a Christmas Carol to herself at Gymboree.
The day before, I listened to another song about Christ the Messiah while waiting in my dentist office.
I've not heard many "Happy Holidays" from the clerks. They seem to be taking the silent track, or they say something generic like "Thank you" or "Come again.". When I say "Merry Christmas" they respond in kind. The few who actually say "Merry Christmas" have one thing in common. They're all young.
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posted on
12/10/2004 4:32:11 AM PST
by
keats5
(Merry Christ Mass! Happy Holy Day!)
To: Kryptonite
The Secular Taliban strikes again, eh?
These Christian haters should get professional help for their self-esteem problems, instead of beating up on Christans.
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posted on
12/10/2004 4:33:40 AM PST
by
Liz
To: Kryptonite
A few years ago, my sons' teachers dealt with the holidays in such a sane, considerate manner. They simply asked their little kids to write a paper about how they celebrate the holidays. Without embarrassing anyone, they figured out the religious leanings of their class.
Upon learning her entire class celebrated Christmas, one teacher put together a program with all Christmas Carols. The rooms was decorated with kids" art work of Nativity scenes and snowmen. None of the parents complained, because they were also all Christan.
Anther teacher learned she had a few Jewish kids, so she encouraged the entire class to verbally share their holiday traditions with their friends. The kids sang mostly Christian songs, but included a few Jewish songs. Again, both kids and parents were happy.
None of these teachers ever recognized Kwanzaa, because they never found that any of their students celebrated it. Most of the black kids preferred Christmas. The danger comes from trying to force one standard across an entire nation. These things should be decided locally. Even better, they should be decided at the classroom level.
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posted on
12/10/2004 4:46:46 AM PST
by
keats5
(Merry Christ Mass! Happy Holy Day!)
To: Kryptonite; DoughtyOne; Brad's Gramma
School districts around the country need to find out about this:
700 lawyers ready to fight ACLU lawsuits
Legal group's 'Christmas Project' designed to protect public schools
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41610
Many public school officials act as though such prohibitions were clearly laid on in the Constitution and defensively ban every vestige of "religious expression" out of fear of an expensive ACLU lawsuit.
But this year, help is on the way: An army of 700 lawyers is being deployed to protect America's schools from the ACLU grinch.
[more at link]
To: keats5
Great anecdote! BTTT for the teachers out there.
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posted on
12/10/2004 5:26:16 AM PST
by
The Spirit Of Allegiance
(FREE people needn't apply to a Government of/by/for the People for a gun (PERSONAL PROPERTY) permit!)
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