Posted on 12/13/2004 8:27:28 AM PST by Lando Lincoln
Yes, I want to be on your ping list. Thanks!
Wow, thank you for posting this article!
Ping
""What particular freedoms have you lost? What are you not free to do?
Here are a few, they are general catagories, if you get into specific cases the list would eat the bandwidth.
Start a business without permission.
Repair our own homes in our own way.
Choose our own retirement plan.
Choose not to have a retirement plan.
Educate our children in our own way.
Make our own business arrangements.
Choose our own medications.
Choose our own transportation.
Choose to opt out of giving information to government about our business.
Choose to keep our financial affairs confidential.
Choose to support our candidates without limitations.""
**Also what about -The affirmative-action laws and the Americans with Disabilities Act. Employee hirings and building codes. How about if a guy wants to smoke a cigarette nowadays - in public?
Ping.
I have been already for several years with the opinion that Israel is very much like the USA.
-Relative to population, Israel is the largest immigrant absorbing nation on earth. These immigrants come in search of democracy, religious freedom or expression, economic opportunity, and quality of life.
America = House of Joseph, a coat of many colors (multi-striped), gathered out of the nations.
Joseph is yet alive.
Jeremiah 31:7-10
7 For thus saith the LORD; Sing with gladness for Jacob, and shout among the chief of the nations: publish ye, praise ye, and say, O LORD, save thy people, the remnant of Israel.
8 Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the coasts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall return thither
. 9 They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.
10 Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock.
When sons are blessed "God make thee as Ephraim and as Manasseh", one should consider that there is a real live modern-day fulfilment of Biblical proportions going on here.
Jeremiah 23:7-8 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt; 8 But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.
Note the "annointed" crown (where the oil is) at the top of the head, separate from his brethren.
I HEAR YOU! However, God has a plan. May we all live to see its fruition:
NLT Version for Mal 4:2
"But for you who fear my name, the Sun of Righteousness will rise with healing in his wings. *** And you will go free, leaping with joy like calves let out to pasture.
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'... From The Hebrew Impact on Western Civilization, we get this: How closely the Puritans identified themselves with the Israelites is hard to over-emphasize
They actually thought of themselves as a new Israel
If Israel had its Pharaoh, so did the Puritans in King James 1. The Atlantic Ocean was to them the Red Sea. America was the new Canaan
[ See http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze020.html#35 and http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Eze/20/35.html - EA]...The first book printed in America was the Bay Psalm Book. ....'
Wow! Then I'm NOT crazy! I've come to the same conclusion myself, right down to the allegory of the Red Sea. However, King James was just the first of our Pharaohs. We've been living under 'Pharaoh' since our founding. [See The US is still a British Colony.] See also Psalm 2; we've been living under a long procession of 'kings'.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Psa/Psa002.html#2
http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Gen/15/13.html
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gal/Gal003.html#16
http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Gal/3/29.html
I don't expect most here will agree with me, not yet, anyway.
Good post. Jack Englehard is welcome in my neck of the woods anytime.
p.s. George Washington and
Micah's Vine & Fig Tree Vision
http://members.aol.com/VFTINC/history/Washington.htm
Parable of the TWO STICKS:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze037.html#16
Isa 14:1 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob. *** http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Isa/14/1.html
The Old Jerusalem is Not the New JerUSAlem
By Pastor Sheldon Emry
http://www.historicist.com/ojnj/index.htm
Proclaim liberty throughout the land unto all the inhabitants thereof.
Engraved on the Liberty Bell.
You beat me to it! I think it's been a while since you and I agreed on anything. But I agree wholeheartedly with what you posted today.
Merry CHRISTmas to you!
Great article! God bless the USA and her friends.
I think the Founding Fathers made a covenant with God, and that practising Jews and Christians are keeping that covenant.
As long as we Americans don't forget where we came from and from Whom we derive all our rights, we will be o.k.
But ominous clouds are gathering and the Orcs of anti-Semitism and Anti-Christianity are hovering around, determined to break that covenant.
I like it; I like it!!
We would agree, as long as you are not suggesting that the House of Judah is dead, withered, irrelevent, cut-off, etc.
There are two houses. The House of Israel does not replace the House of Judah. It was the House of Israel which was utterly "lost" to history. They are not going to be found at the expense of Judah. Those who believe that only confirm their condition of being lost.
Just to be clear on that.
'We would agree, as long as you are not suggesting that the House of Judah is dead, withered, irrelevent, cut-off, etc.'
Well, I just lost what I had been working on for the last 20 minutes or so. Anyway, I never said Judah was cut off. The House of Judah became Christians as well. The whole purpose of the House of Judah was to provide the Messiah. Jesus came to bind up the breach between the two tribes. But I guess you know better than He. And I guess you and I will have to still agree to disagree.
Retrieved a few passage:
1Ki 11:13 Howbeit I will not rend away all the kingdom; [but] will give one tribe to thy son for David my servant's sake, and for Jerusalem's sake which I have chosen. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/1Ki/11/13.html
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Luk/Luk001.html#32
Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Luk/1/32.html
Luk 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Rev 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rev/Rev005.html#5
Rev 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, [be] unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Rev/5/13.html
Rev 19:16 And he hath on [his] vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Rev/19/16.html
Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become [the kingdoms] of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rev/Rev011.html#15
So no, 'the House of Judah is NOT dead, withered, irrelevent, cut-off, etc.' , not by a long shot.
If I misunderstand you, my apologies.
'The whole purpose of the House of Judah was to provide the Messiah. Jesus came to bind up the breach between the two tribes.' Should have said 'bind up the breach between the two HOUSES'. He also came to break down the wall of partition between Jew and Gentile:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eph/Eph002.html#14
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
**** Gal 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gal/Gal003.html#28
Let's not rebuild barriers and walls that Christ broke down once and for all.
Well, the author certainly pays us a nice compliment, for which I am grateful, but I can't let this slide by uncontested.
Am I correct in understanding that this poor benighted fellow sees Hitler as some kind of apotheosis of European Christian civilization? An inevitable culmination of a "2000 year old Holocaust?" Ridiculous.
Hitler arose out of the ashes of European Christendom, which was set ablaze in WWI and finally destroyed by Wilson, Clemenceau, and the social left establishment of the post war era.
Hitler himself was virulently anti-Christian (and anti-Catholic in particular). He openly spoke of returning Germany to its pagan roots in a religion of "blood and soil."
In a sense, Christendom itself was a victim of a Holocaust. Not one that lasted 2000 years, mind you, but one that began in earnest in 1789 in Paris and continued through to the present day.
We should all keep this list handy every time we get complacent about how much progress the conservative agenda is making.
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