Science Shows That Homosexuals Are Not "Born That Way."

December 13, 2004

[Clint N. Suhks]

Oh elfman, don't you have some erroneous homosexual research to pedal? Your indignation given your credibility with "research studies" is a bit under whelming I'm afraid. Sorry, not interested.

[dangus]

Oh, in a discussion about whether homosexuality occurred in nature, I mentionned I had female rabbits which mounted each other. Someone else compared the caging of animals to putting people in prison (where otherwise non-homosexual people adapt homosexuality.) I was like, "OK, you've got a point; the rabbits were not in their natural habitat." But the thought that we were discussing rabbits turning to homsexuality because they were in prison was just so silly to me that it sounded like a bad "B" movie.

I really don't know what that bunny with a pancake is into, but I don't need to. :^D

[elfman2]

" Your indignation given your credibility with "research studies" is a bit under whelming I'm afraid."

Know that I’ll give your “thoughtful and emotionally stable” analysis of those studies the attention it deserves.

[gidget7]

We all realize this is a difficult subject for you, and you are free to express your feelings and opinion, but . You're a "fucking moron! " might get you ganned, that language isn't allowed here.

[PISANO]

The GAY LIFELINE is about to be CUT!!

Ms. Paglia has it correct. Simple matter of what is NORMAL and what is NOT!! Face the fact that YOU CHOOSE your lifestyle and get out of this...... "I CAN'T HELP MYSELF" fantasy!!!

[dangus]

>>For what it’s worth, the first group to be gonged off that show was the Mystic Knights of Oingo Boingo with lead singer Danny Elfman. I must come off as such a fanatic;^)
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Amazingly, as you must know but I'll point out for others... Danny Elfman became a legendary rock producer.

[gidget7]

It is a very comparable counter argument...

Absoutlely it is!

[dangus]

Actually, you've got a point. Moderator, this thread may land us in enough hot water, with discussions about homosexuality... I hate to do this, but I think we might need a little cleanup around here.

[Clint N. Suhks]

People are not the same as rutting animals!

Not to mention the parallel to long term prison incarceration, animal in zoos exhibit very similar behavior. In the wild if the dominant male won't let another breed then it's up to that male to leave the heard or remain with the boys. In no way does that prove that out cast males are sexually attracted to each other, they're just doing a form of masturbation, in lack of a better term, "wet dreams". It's no different than a dog "humping on legs".

[elfman2]

"Danny Elfman became a legendary rock producer."

Film score producer, not rock as far as I know, including a Grammyfor one of the Batmans.

[69ConvertibleFirebird]

This topic is MUCH more interesting than the pretend homosexual gene one.

See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/823258/posts for more Gong Show (the New Gong Show) info. Is it on yet?

[69ConvertibleFirebird]

Bridget Fonda weds composer Elfman. Danny Elfman and Bridget Fonda Wed November 29, 2003

Fonda, 39, whose film credits include "Single White Female," "The Godfather: Part III" and "Jackie Brown," is part of an acting dynasty that includes father Peter Fonda, aunt Jane Fonda and the late Henry Fonda, her grandfather.

Elfman, 50, the former frontman for the '80s pop group Oingo Boingo, has composed scores for dozens of movies, including "Spider-Man," "Mission: Impossible" and "The Nightmare Before Christmas." He's also the composer of the theme to "The Simpsons."

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She doesn't look 39...

[MAWG]

" ... might get you ganned here....

Never been ganned before.

[69ConvertibleFirebird]

Wait a minute! Freeper = elfman2...

Oingo Boingo lead singer = Danny Elfman.

Danny Elfman = Freeper elfman2 ?!?!?!

Is it true?!?

[69ConvertibleFirebird]

" ... might get you ganned here....

Never been ganned before.

OK... Lets leave our personal sex lives out of the discussion, shall we. :)

[Luis Gonzalez]

'God gene' discovered by scientist behind gay DNA theory
By Elizabeth Day
(Filed: 14/11/2004)

Religious belief is determined by a person's genetic make-up according to a study by a leading scientist.

After comparing more than 2,000 DNA samples, an American molecular geneticist has concluded that a person's capacity to believe in God is linked to brain chemicals.

His findings were criticised last night by leading clerics, who challenge the existence of a "god gene" and say that the research undermines a fundamental tenet of faith - that spiritual enlightenment is achieved through divine transformation rather than the brain's electrical impulses.

Dr Dean Hamer, the director of the Gene Structure and Regulation Unit at the National Cancer Institute in America, asked volunteers 226 questions in order to determine how spiritually connected they felt to the universe. The higher their score, the greater a person's ability to believe in a greater spiritual force and, Dr Hamer found, the more likely they were to share the gene, VMAT2.

Studies on twins showed that those with this gene, a vesicular monoamine transporter that regulates the flow of mood-altering chemicals in the brain, were more likely to develop a spiritual belief.

Growing up in a religious environment was said to have little effect on belief. Dr Hamer, who in 1993 claimed to have identified a DNA sequence linked to male homosexuality, said the existence of the "god gene" explained why some people had more aptitude for spirituality than others.

"Buddha, Mohammed and Jesus all shared a series of mystical experiences or alterations in consciousness and thus probably carried the gene," he said. "This means that the tendency to be spiritual is part of genetic make-up. This is not a thing that is strictly handed down from parents to children. It could skip a generation - it's like intelligence."

His findings, published in a book, The God Gene: How Faith Is Hard-Wired Into Our Genes, were greeted sceptically by many in the religious establishment.

The Rev Dr John Polkinghorne, a fellow of the Royal Society and a Canon Theologian at Liverpool Cathedral, said: "The idea of a god gene goes against all my personal theological convictions. You can't cut faith down to the lowest common denominator of genetic survival. It shows the poverty of reductionist thinking."

The Rev Dr Walter Houston, the chaplain of Mansfield College, Oxford, and a fellow in theology, said: "Religious belief is not just related to a person's constitution; it's related to society, tradition, character - everything's involved. Having a gene that could do all that seems pretty unlikely to me."

Dr Hamer insisted, however, that his research was not antithetical to a belief in God. He pointed out: "Religious believers can point to the existence of god genes as one more sign of the creator's ingenuity - a clever way to help humans acknowledge and embrace a divine presence."

13 October 2004: Homosexual link to fertility genes

[sauron]

IMHO, homosexuality is merely narcissm by projection.

[elfman2]

My picture’s in my profile. I don’t’ have a quarter of his talent or money.

[Conservomax]

he's a weird kid, definitely a creep - and very intelligent for his age which is scary. We don't have kids yet, but yeah, when we do, they ain't going near him.