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Does Geico Own 'Geico' Or Does Google? [Geico sues: stop other insurance ads when googling 'Geico']
Forbes ^ | Dec 13, 2004 | Dan Ackman

Posted on 12/13/2004 1:58:58 PM PST by Mike Fieschko

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To: Mike Fieschko

GEICO can get on the right side with just a few $$$.


21 posted on 12/13/2004 2:40:37 PM PST by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: Mike Fieschko

I just googled Geico and I don't see any ads for anyone else.


22 posted on 12/13/2004 2:41:44 PM PST by UseYourHead (Beware of the Rinos - McCain, Hagel, Lugar, and Specter)
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To: San Jacinto
My money would be on google to win.

My money would be on the lawyers.

23 posted on 12/13/2004 2:44:49 PM PST by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: UseYourHead
I just googled Geico and I don't see any ads for anyone else.

'As your attorney, my advice is ...'
24 posted on 12/13/2004 2:46:10 PM PST by Mike Fieschko (We need two parties for a debate about abolishing welfare to buy more cruise missiles. [Frank J.])
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To: Mike Fieschko
I always thought that when you called geico, that they provided rate quotes from other insurance companies to prove they are the lowest priced?
25 posted on 12/13/2004 2:50:32 PM PST by Bostton1
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To: Mike Fieschko

I manage online bidding for a company...we advertise on many search engines.

We advertise on Google using keywords. Bidding is competitive, but when I google "Geico", their site comes up first and they are not bidding for that position on the main page.

Google is doing them a favor...unlike Yahoo, Altavista, and a host of other search engines, the mainpage sites listed are self edited by Google and you can not "pay" for that position.

You can "pay" to position yourself in the top of the page ads, or side of the page ads.

Geico should thank Google, not sue them. Google could demote them to 3rd or 4th page in their "free" listings if they wanted to.


26 posted on 12/13/2004 2:51:52 PM PST by dawn53
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To: dawn53

"Geico should thank Google, not sue them. Google could demote them to 3rd or 4th page in their "free" listings if they wanted to"

This made me think of how much influence Google has on other's research...


27 posted on 12/13/2004 3:00:45 PM PST by jer33 3
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To: jer33 3

Ya gonna hear from my lawyer!

28 posted on 12/13/2004 3:05:28 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: UseYourHead

The same with Dish ads that appear on cable TV. The cable companies do what they can to block them but hey it's the nature of advertising.


29 posted on 12/13/2004 3:15:42 PM PST by George from New England
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To: Lokibob

Yeah! Geico could buy the ad space.


30 posted on 12/13/2004 3:16:18 PM PST by George from New England
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To: Bostton1

wrong company - I think this claim is made by Progressive


31 posted on 12/13/2004 3:17:01 PM PST by George from New England
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To: Bostton1

I think that's Progressive.


32 posted on 12/13/2004 3:17:14 PM PST by Lib Buster (It's freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion.)
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To: billorites

LOL!


33 posted on 12/13/2004 3:36:55 PM PST by jer33 3
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Another article on this: Judge Hears Geico, Google Trademark Case AP via yahoo:
ALEXANDRIA, Va. - A federal judge heard arguments Monday in a trademark dispute that could threaten millions in advertising revenue for search engine Google Inc

Attorneys for auto insurance giant Geico told U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema that Google should not be allowed to sell ads to rival insurance companies that are triggered whenever Geico's name is typed into the Google search box.

Geico claims that Google's AdWords program, which displays the rival ads under a "Sponsored Links" heading next to a user's search results, causes confusion for consumers and illegally exploits Geico's investment of hundreds of millions of dollars in its brand.

"When a consumers enters 'Geico' ... and goes to the sponsored link believing there's a connection, that is where the confusion arises," said Geico attorney Charles Ossola.

But Google attorney Michael Page said the ad policy is no different than a supermarket giving out coupons for one product in the checkout line when a customer buys the same product from a different company.

"There is nothing wrong with that under the trademark laws," Page said.

Geico filed the lawsuit against Google in May, seeking $8.65 million in lost profits and a court order preventing Google from using its name in the advertising program.

Under the program, for example, a competing insurance company could bid to have its ad appear every time Google users search for the word "Geico." When a user clicks on an ad, the advertiser pays Google a predetermined fee.

Google is facing similar lawsuits from other companies, including American Blind and Wallpaper Factory Inc. and AXA, the world's No. 3 insurer. Last year, Google asked a court to rule on whether its pay-for-placement ad policy is legal.

John McCutcheon, Geico's assistant vice president of marketing, testified Monday that most consumers visit just one Web site when shopping for auto insurance. If a consumer trying to find Geico is unknowingly steered to a competitor's site, "We've lost one opportunity."

The Geico lawsuit, filed in May, came just weeks after Google said it hoped to raise $2.7 billion with an initial public stock offering. The vast majority of Google's ad revenue comes from search-related advertising. In federal filings, the company said it would face financial risks if it was forced to limit sales of keyword ads to generic words.

Geico's lawsuit had also named Web site company Overture Services, a Yahoo! subsidiary, but the two companies reached an undisclosed settlement in November, after Brinkema denied a motion to dismiss the trademark claims.

The bench trial is expected to last three days, after which Brinkema could issue a decision or take the matter under advisement.

34 posted on 12/13/2004 3:50:37 PM PST by Mike Fieschko (We need two parties for a debate about abolishing welfare to buy more cruise missiles. [Frank J.])
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Any logical basis for what you "think," or is it really just what you "feel?"

Yes. No. Now, go piss up a rope.

35 posted on 12/14/2004 5:31:36 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: newgeezer
Now, go piss up a rope.

You're the expert at that.

36 posted on 12/14/2004 5:43:34 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: UseYourHead
I don't see why you think Geico will win easily.

Although I think it should win easily, it does not necessarily follow that I believe it will. I don't. This is mostly uncharted territory. Granted, both sides have good points.

I watch television by way of Dishnetwork and I see DirecTv ads all the time. If Dish had their way I'm sure I would never see a DirecTv ad.

The difference has to do with, as the title says, "Who owns 'Geico.'" It's explained pretty well in the first few paragraphs of the article. Google is profiting from its direct use of the trademark "Geico" by selling and serving the ads of Geico's competitors. The combination of those three points make this very different from your analogy.

Finally, as was implied by my previous post, I have an open mind about it. I'd welcome the chance to be on the jury.

37 posted on 12/14/2004 5:56:25 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Terabitten

I think that Google would be compromising their 'neutral' search results and threaten the goodwill they have built up if they were to be so capricious as block GEICO from a search request...
Good thing Google won, huh?


38 posted on 02/28/2005 10:07:17 PM PST by nyall
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