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Illegalize illegals: Time for showdown in open frontier
HoustonChronicle.com ^ | Dec 15, 2004 | William F. Buckley Jr.

Posted on 12/16/2004 1:17:16 PM PST by atomic_dog

Illegalize illegals: Time for showdown in open frontier

By WILLIAM F. BUCKLEY JR.

The new intelligence law, courtesy of 9/11, is mystifying because it does not face directly what is the most prominent threat to homeland security. It is: inimical action by non-Americans. All the people who participated in 9/11 were foreigners, here under various auspices. And yet the bill that has evolved from the findings of the 9/11 commission reads like an elocutionary exercise by a national committee to avoid saying anything unpleasant about unpleasant people born abroad.

Specifically, the threat at this moment is from foreign terrorism. The day may come when there are native-born Americans who join in such a threat, such as the Weather Underground types we experienced during the '60s.

But at this point, the terrorists come from abroad. "Last May," writes National Interest editor John O'Sullivan, "illegal aliens from Malaysia, Pakistan, Morocco, Uganda and India were released without bond. They are now at large in the U.S."

What happened is that as the intelligence bill crystallized, a fear developed that it might be construed as xenophobic. Somewhere along the line the word came down from the White House that for the president to be able to sign the bill, it had to be plucked clean of any suggestion that an illegal Muslim fundamentalist should be treated at all differently from an illegal Christian evangelist. Remember the odd deportment of Norman Mineta, who has been reappointed as transportation secretary? He went to extraordinary lengths several years ago to insist that security personnel at airports should pay no greater attention to 30-year-old Near-Eastern Muslims called Mohammed than they would to Shirley Temple.

The immigration problem is the primary unmet challenge of modern times. It is so because the whole of our political establishment cringes at any suggestion that the United States is inhospitable to immigration. We do have laws on the books, but they are apparently made for the sole purpose of flouting them. Time magazine published the most florid essay on the question, estimating the annual flow of illegal immigration at more than 2 million persons.

There are two questions on the table. The first deals with raw immigration: How many people beyond those formally welcome under existing laws should we admit into the United States? The second, what are the risks to security in being as offhanded as we have been?

In the age of terrorism, it is obvious that the enemy will seek to do damage operating within U.S. territory. That, of course, was the story of the 9/11 hijackers, 19 Muslim terrorists who took advantage of loose laws to practice flying accurately into U.S. skyscrapers.

But the movements of such folk are not of primary concern to the U.S. government, to judge from the record. O'Sullivan reports that the Transportation Department has launched several lawsuits against airlines because pilots had banned passengers they thought were security risks.

Asa Hutchinson, an official in the Department of Homeland Security, recently cut down a Border Patrol initiative to catch illegal aliens. The reason? It was catching too many illegal aliens.

We have the piquant problem of what to do with illegals. It approaches the problem of what to do with drinkers during Prohibition. You couldn't put them all in jail because there weren't enough jails. Illegals remain largely undisturbed, and the main reason for it isn't U.S. sentimentality toward aspirant Americans. It is the market contribution to the dilemma: There are jobs only illegals are willing to perform, e.g. serving as nannies for Bernard Kerik. Much of the menial and agricultural work done in the southwestern states is done by illegals.

The result of the combined forces — the need for cheap labor and the passion to avoid any appearance of ethnic or religious discrimination — is an open frontier. Yes, a few illegals are deported. These should get a parade, signaling such distinction as attaches to the infrequency of their apprehension. And perhaps a parade when they come through the next time, often through the same gap in the southwestern frontier.

A subsidiary but not uninteresting question is: Where do our deportees gather? What help is available to them to reassemble? Perhaps to return to Arizona in time for high school reunions?

It's a tough one politically, but Congress should bear down on the subject, intimately related to concerns for homeland security.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; asahutchinson; homelandsecurity; hutchinson; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; intelligencebill; intelligencelaw; intelligencereform; terrorists; waronterror; williamfbuckley
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To: atomic_dog
[ The Jedi Master weighs in. ]

Buckley talks around the problem like the politicians do...
Jedi Master, YES, since that is a fictional being...
Bill is fictionally conserned.. deathly afraid of saying kick them all out of the country.. even by a train with box cars to the border.. National Security is a joke because of it.. and Bill is too.. Buckley knows exactly WHAT should be done as anybody with an ounce of common sense..

Kill the payoff for coming here illegal.. but that would mean killing most of the drug trade too.. Its hard to make it in the U.S. without certain givens.. Driver license, a place to stay, a job.. Make that hard for legals and damn near impossible for illegals and the problem will almost go away.. YET some want to spend multiplyed billions to go to MARS.. fence the southern border with a decent fence as a symbol.. Send the U.N to Brussels and solve or at least help the illegal problem and America would be stronger and Bush might even be a good President.. Not, then NOT...

21 posted on 12/16/2004 4:23:48 PM PST by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: monkeywrench

He'll also be perfect if any "Blue Ribbon Panels" need to be convened to "examine" events such as Waco, TWA 800, Vince Foster etc.


22 posted on 12/16/2004 4:28:50 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: atomic_dog
How many people beyond those formally welcome under existing laws should we admit into the United States?

None.

23 posted on 12/16/2004 4:45:26 PM PST by genew (Political correctness is a deadly social disease.)
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To: atomic_dog

I blame him for part of this nonsense, he took the conservative flagship publication and handed the keys to a bunch of ideological hustlers like Frum and that doof Goldberg. Both of these conservatives (whatever it is they wish to conserve) hate Red state America and to them everybody west of the Hudson is a subhuman. Maybe his "dependable and docile" nanny stole his Rolex, and that is why he is now even considering immigration reform.


24 posted on 12/16/2004 4:49:48 PM PST by junta (junta, "is one uppity cracker")
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To: atomic_dog

Buckley on the comeback trail.


25 posted on 12/16/2004 4:55:14 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: FBD; WmDonovan; Semaphore Heathcliffe; Endeavor; badbass; t-1000; gopwinsin04; bullseye876; ...

FYI - Yet another conservative speaks.


26 posted on 12/16/2004 5:07:53 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Calpernia

Just reading your post brings back the insanity of those years.

I didn't understand them then,and I don't now.

The "radical chic' crowd in NY drove me nuts.I detested Leonard Bernstein after all his kow-towing to The Panthers.


27 posted on 12/16/2004 5:23:28 PM PST by Mears
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To: Travis McGee; archy; hosepipe
"Kill the payoff for coming here illegal.. but that would mean killing most of the drug trade too.."

Just did a google on 'Mena, Free Republic',and boy, does that bring back memories. Sure miss Uncle Bill...

28 posted on 12/16/2004 5:30:47 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: monkeywrench

[ Just did a google on 'Mena, Free Republic',and boy, does that bring back memories. Sure miss Uncle Bill... ]

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a397545b71a55.htm
See These Priceless Links by Uncle Bill (free republic)


29 posted on 12/16/2004 5:36:37 PM PST by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe

How about these? http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38a9138c73be.htm


30 posted on 12/16/2004 5:39:35 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: Travis McGee
Looks like Asa is one of the old boy net

Yup, and he goes both ways. Asa on the hot heat with John and Ken: Issa & Asa's Town Meeting Part 1

The best entertainment for your tax dollar.

31 posted on 12/16/2004 5:41:45 PM PST by Wake75
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To: JesseJane

*read..


32 posted on 12/16/2004 5:45:25 PM PST by JesseJane ("If the enemy is in range, so are you." -Infantry Journal)
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To: HiJinx
You can join the fight against the ACLU and their ilk by becoming involved with and supporting the following organizations:

Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) - http://www.alliancedefensefund.org

Thomas More Law Center (TMLC) - http://www.thomasmore.org

American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) - http://www.aclj.org

The Rutherford Institute - http://www.rutherford.org/

Stop the ACLU Coalition - http://www.stoptheaclu.org


Here are a few examples of how two of those organizations are fighting back:

ADF Contacts Over 3,600 School Districts Over Attempts To Censor Christmas

ADF: 700 lawyers ready to fight ACLU lawsuits

ADF: Pentagons' Warning About Boyscouts Is Absurd

Thomas More Law Center: Town of Palm Beach Pays $50,000 In Attorney Fees Apologizes To Women In Nativity Lawsuit


Additional information:

The ACLU must be destroyed: Joseph Farah supports Boy Scouts, urges Americans to fight back

Citizens mobilized to stop ACLU (seeks to consign group to 'ash heap of history')

ACLU fulfilling communist agenda

Revealing FACTS on the ACLU from its own writings

See how YOUR Senator or Representative ranks with the ACLU


33 posted on 12/16/2004 5:48:22 PM PST by Jay777
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To: Mears

>>> Just reading your post brings back the insanity of those years.

Yes, those years were insane. But make no mistake that these people are still alive and well and heading up the same agendas.


34 posted on 12/16/2004 6:28:41 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: archy

Asa's a jackass bump


35 posted on 12/16/2004 6:37:32 PM PST by 1_Inch_Group (Libraria del Pueblo: Guilty of section 1511 (obstruction of State or local law enforcement) RICO)
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To: freeparella

As the problem escalates, and it will, Vigilance Committees will need to be formed. Self help will be the only option left.


36 posted on 12/16/2004 6:43:43 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: Wake75
"Looks like Asa is one of the old boy net"

Didn't Asa go to Bob Jones University?

37 posted on 12/16/2004 6:43:49 PM PST by Robert Lomax (Allah ain't Akbar)
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To: Wake75

John and Ken (KFI 640 in SoCal) are priceless on this issue.


38 posted on 12/16/2004 6:58:22 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: monkeywrench

Sure enough.


39 posted on 12/16/2004 6:59:21 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

>>Maybe I misjudge the writings of New Democrat Third Way progressives at ndol.org (the Clinton Democrats) and maybe I misjudge the actions of conservative mainline Republican "free traders." But it seems to me that they have joined together along with the movers and shakers of countries around the world (their peers) and numerous international entities to implement a plan.<<

"All truth goes through three stages.
First it is ridiculed.
Then it is violently opposed.
Finally, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Schopenhauer)

We are getting closer and closer to the self evident day. Damn it's been a long ride waiting for others to catch up.


40 posted on 12/17/2004 3:46:53 PM PST by B4Ranch (((The lack of alcohol in my coffee forces me to see reality!)))
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