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6-year-old boy shoots sister as she slept
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Posted on 12/16/2004 4:10:11 PM PST by Ellesu

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To: LauraleeBraswell

It certainly does sound like he knew exactly what he was doing and meant to kill his sister --- not just injure her.


41 posted on 12/16/2004 4:49:16 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Ellesu
Caleb, will soon undergo extensive counseling.

Hopefully as an in-patient in a secure facility.

42 posted on 12/16/2004 4:50:18 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: calex59
This is not about guns being locked or unlocked. This kid is in need of serious help. Notice how they make excuses for him, such as " He is acting out his anger right now " in reference to his father being gone. Why would you shoot your sister because your father walks out. This kid knew what he was doing. Locked up or not, he would have used something else to try to kill his sister. A knife doesn't jam and would have worked quite well for that purpose. He might figure that out next time. By the way, guns in my parents house were never locked up but we knew better than to touch them without supervision. I keep all my ammo locked up, but only because I don't trust other people and their children. Mine our grown now and never thought about shooting anyone. It is a social problem not a gun problem. Little serial killer developing here.

I fear you may be right.
43 posted on 12/16/2004 4:51:16 PM PST by Logophile
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To: MKM1960
I knew a child when we lived in West Tennessee whom I would swear had no soul. He was almost robotic in his speech and physical mannerisms. His expressions were lifeless. His eyes just dark. Over a period of time he became a danger to him and others around him. No amount of parenting was going to cure this child of what ailed him. Sad and scary.
44 posted on 12/16/2004 4:54:52 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: gov_bean_ counter

http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/4000021/detail.html
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45 posted on 12/16/2004 4:57:44 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: cyncooper

I think the sister may be the one that will need some counseling, it's to late for little Cain.


46 posted on 12/16/2004 4:59:50 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: Logophile
If this gun was that messed up, he is lucky it didn't blow up in his face.

Back in high school, one of my substitute teachers was blind due to a shotgun exploding in his face.

47 posted on 12/16/2004 4:59:51 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. - John Adams)
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To: El Gato
their there. I hate it when my fingers get ahead of my brain. :)
48 posted on 12/16/2004 5:00:06 PM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: dc-zoo
the reporter was quoting the Sheriff's Spokesman
49 posted on 12/16/2004 5:00:22 PM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: DTogo

I have 2 rifles and 2 shotguns in my unlocked closet...Along with the necessary ammo...Must be a real mystery how my kids grew up without all of us killing each other with these weapons...


50 posted on 12/16/2004 5:00:25 PM PST by Iscool (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of those who threaten it !!!)
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To: Ellesu
Wonder where he even got the idea to do something like that?

According to a friend of mine (a child psychologist) a number of years back following a discussion about a child this same age in California who killed some other child, this behavior is so embedded in this child due to such an early age that he will forever be a threat to society.

Whether or not it is true, I have no idea but I have great respect for him and his knowledge........

51 posted on 12/16/2004 5:02:43 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I was born to be NASTY and Santa knows it.......That's why I'm at the top of the "A" list!)
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To: TheOracleAtLilac

the reporter was quoting the Sheriff's Spokesman



Are they all inbred in this town? If he had set her on fire it would have been the parent's fault for not hiding the matches. Don't they realize how unbalanced this child is?


52 posted on 12/16/2004 5:05:25 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: dc-zoo
apparently her 6-year-old brother had went to the mother's bedroom, where a cabinet was located. The 6-year-old then grabbed a hold of the rifle

At least one error of usage, and one in spelling. It should be "had done went" instead of "had went"; and the correct spelling is "grabbed a-holt".

No wonder this country is a-fallin behint other nayshuns in edumication. Sheesh!

53 posted on 12/16/2004 5:10:07 PM PST by Mad Dawg (S&W 686P, Sig - P226, P239, Beretta 92FS & 8357,Taurus snubbie, Marlin carbine in .357 magnum.)
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To: Ellesu

FRICKING BAD APPLE GUN OWNERS RUIN IT FOR EVERYONE ELSE!


54 posted on 12/16/2004 5:11:06 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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To: Ellesu

Courtney is recovering at Children's hospital. She should be released in the coming days. Courtney's brother, Caleb, will soon undergo extensive counseling.


Also the father and mother grandma and grandpa should undergo a mental stability test for even teaching a 6 year old how to load a rifle let alone leaving it in his reach these kinds of gun owners give good gun owners a bad name !


55 posted on 12/16/2004 5:15:42 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Lets keep God and Ban Liberals !)
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To: Iscool
Must be a real mystery how my kids grew up without all of us killing each other with these weapons...

Not to mention some stories I've read where the guns seemingly act alone to commit murder...you guys got lucky!

56 posted on 12/16/2004 5:17:28 PM PST by BikerTrash (Enough already with the carnival freak show...bring back COOL!)
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To: Iscool
I have 2 rifles and 2 shotguns in my unlocked closet.

And if a burglar breaks into your house and steals them and injures himself or someone else with them, then you can be sued for not securing your firearms.

57 posted on 12/16/2004 5:25:08 PM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie)
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To: dc-zoo

Not knowing the difference between right and wrong is a direct result of no parental dicipline and possible early exposure to violent movies and/or video games.


You know I do agree with that generally. In fact I would say 99 % of the time.
but this kid didn't steal a candy bar, he was aiming a gun to kill his sister, and he's six. 6 year olds understand life and death.
And he didn't feel bad about it. . .


58 posted on 12/16/2004 5:48:26 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Support our troops.........)
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To: TheOracleAtLilac

You sure he didn't "grab a holt of the rifle"? This was Oklahoma, right?


59 posted on 12/16/2004 5:50:05 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Iscool
I have 2 rifles and 2 shotguns in my unlocked closet...Along with the necessary ammo...Must be a real mystery how my kids grew up without all of us killing each other with these weapons...

Same here,my father had his rifle and shotgun in a shed by our main barn.
I knew that they were not to be touched or the wrath of God would be a more pleasant alternative to what would happen to me.

Whether an accident or intentional lack of parental discipline and control is prob the cause.
I don`t know if a 6 year old has an inherent knowledge that this would be wrong.Understand most parents probably will not tell their kids at 6 years of age that they should`nt kill their brothers/sisters.They should let them know it is wrong to hurt them,usually by hitting,scratching,etc at that age.
I suspect that this is where the breakdown started,never saying "that is wrong, don`t do that again or there will be consequences".

Lack of responsibility/punishment for actions went to the extreme degree here.I can`t help but to think that allowing some of the video games out today add to this problem.My parents wouldn`t even let me watch the old King Kong movie until I was almost a teenager.

60 posted on 12/16/2004 6:06:02 PM PST by carlr
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