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We must reach the Liberals
12/18/04 | self

Posted on 12/18/2004 1:03:09 PM PST by coffee260

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To: auggy

Yes, it's in their contract. And most recruiters take great pains to specifically point out that clause.


41 posted on 12/18/2004 1:37:56 PM PST by wolfpat
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

That line caught my attention also.
Free-verse Jabberwocky?


42 posted on 12/18/2004 1:38:22 PM PST by aroostook war
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To: muir_redwoods

If we wait to long they will all be aborted...

Could you imagine being so empty that to you an abortion is just as common as the dentist?

So So Sad...


43 posted on 12/18/2004 1:41:33 PM PST by coffee260
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To: 45Auto
I am also a former liberal. My take is that liberalism is a mental disorder and socialism is a disease. Most of my former associates are still liberals; I don't talk to any of them anymore, because they are currently incapable of seeing the truth. For years I used to try to convince them that socialism was nothing but communism by another name and that the latter can only work if one is willing to destroy a large portion of their fellow citizens.

Most liberal puppets do suffer from a certain form of delusion, to be sure; saying "liberalism" is a mental disorder is a little too broad, though, since the liberal leaders are not delusional--they know exactly what they're doing.

I used to consider these people as merely the "loyal opposition"; today I see them as the enemies of freedom. We are engaged in Civl War II in this nation. Some call it a culture war. So far it is a war of words. It has not become a hot war - yet. Massive civil unrest can still be avoided; but time is running out. The economic reality of trying to sustain an unsustainable welfare state on the backs of the working American is going to become apparent soon. When that happens all bets are off.

I would suggest that although converting liberals will be difficult, recognizing the nature of the disorder and undermining its roots can pay massive dividends. If just a few liberals here and there convert, then those that remain can view them as 'sell-outs'. If, however, more start converting and seem to become happier and more successful as a result, more and more liberals are going to start wondering whether maybe they too shouldn't see what it is these other people are 'getting'. I don't know for sure whether critical mass is achievable, but if it is I would suspect the counry could shift from being nearly 50-50 to being 80-20 in a pretty short time.

44 posted on 12/18/2004 1:42:37 PM PST by supercat (To call the Constitution a 'living document' is to call a moth-infested overcoat a 'living garment'.)
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To: wolfpat
"Yes, it's in their contract. And most recruiters take great pains to specifically point out that clause."

I thought it must be. With this being done, it would have to be in their contracts or Bush would have been run out of office all ready. Thanks!

45 posted on 12/18/2004 1:42:56 PM PST by auggy (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
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To: aroostook war

LOL You may be right!


46 posted on 12/18/2004 1:44:24 PM PST by OSHA (OSHA, the Grand Wizard and Chief Executive Fascist of FreeperWorld- Industries LLC)
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To: coffee260
We must save our Liberal blue-state countryman

Have you ever talked to a Liberal? {/Loud Incredulousness}

47 posted on 12/18/2004 1:46:05 PM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: coffee260
Liberalism is being destroyed, but by the liberals themselves (we're helping though).

Look at any left wing website, what you'll see is not liberalism, but conspiracy theorism.

They have substituted liberal policy "progressive" ideas and thought with conspiracy theories and loony unhinged accusations and paranoia.

Liberalism is dying but whats replacing it, may be even worse, but also is much small and easier contained.

48 posted on 12/18/2004 1:50:03 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: KJC1
On the big issues the libs are dragging this country down, no doubt about that. They are responsible for their own actions. When they attack and undermine our President and his cabinet, when they demoralize our troops, and when they embrace the likes of Michael Moore and George Soros, they are responsible for that. They own that, and if they want the perception of them to change THEY need to change their behaviors and hateful words.

Most liberal puppets believe George W. Bush is trying to undermine our nation, and it will take people like Michael Moore and George Soros to stabilize it. They don't want to undermine our nation--they just want to save it from the evil George W. Bush and others who want to establish a Christian theocracy.

If the intentions of George W. Bush et al. were really as liberals believe them to be, then even as a conservative I would believe it entirely reasonable to try to stop him. The problem is not that liberal puppets' motives are wrong, but rather that they are basing their actions upon beliefs that have little in common with reality.

49 posted on 12/18/2004 1:51:11 PM PST by supercat (To call the Constitution a 'living document' is to call a moth-infested overcoat a 'living garment'.)
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To: coffee260

Frankly, I'm happy to live in a country where all are free to think and believe as they choose.


50 posted on 12/18/2004 1:53:12 PM PST by aroostook war
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To: coffee260; cmsgop
We must reach the Liberals

I agree.

Think this'll reach?

51 posted on 12/18/2004 1:53:31 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Here is how you slowly change a liberal.
Start a discussion but agree with everything he or she says.
Find a very insignificant part of the discussion you like you can change his mind on.
If it is successful than change the subject or stop the debate.
That a later date have the very same discussion and find another insignificant part of the discussion and try changing his mind again.
With success you have just taken a liberals conspiracy and added some truth to it.
Repeat this method again and again.
Eventually, your wacko liberals will become a plain old liberal.
52 posted on 12/18/2004 1:55:23 PM PST by coffee260
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To: SSG USA
"re-education camps"? I'm thinking more like internment camps.

"Internment camps"? I'm thinking more like death camps.

53 posted on 12/18/2004 1:56:19 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: coffee260
We must reach the Liberals

Then I would suggest an artillery round with more powder or raising the barrel of the cannon to get the ordnance further downrange. Then we'll reach them.

54 posted on 12/18/2004 1:58:05 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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To: supercat
Perhaps a few are reachable; but here along the central California coast, I live and work amongst a large population of people who are, literally, politically insane. They do not see the connection between their tax burden and out of control government spending; they do not see that illegals are breaking laws and draining the state's social services net; they do not see that communism is not only unworkable, but that it presupposes the deaths or imprisonment of a large number of their fellow citizens; they do not see that those who espouse a Green philosophy are akin to the old Nazis; they do not see that a government that has total control of the wealth of a nation is a government that cannot be controlled and that might not be benign. And worst of all, they do not see the current world-wide threat that is Radical Islam. And why do you suppose they cannot see these things? My theory is that 99% of them have once or are currently using massive amounts of illict (and licit) drugs. They are incapable of seeing reality. They are insane.
55 posted on 12/18/2004 1:59:05 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: DoctorMichael
Not only have I talked to a liberal but I have gotten into there conspiracy packed heads. You don't have to know what liberals will say or do. You just have to remember what you yourself wound not say or wound not do.
56 posted on 12/18/2004 2:00:16 PM PST by coffee260
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To: coffee260

IMO, liberals seem to me mental adolescents. By that I mean they are stuck in contrary mode. As any mother of an adolescent, (or two year old) knows, an important part of development, is going through a negative phase. Liberals have never gotten out of this stage. More and more these 'rebels' seem to take whatever position will infuriate the masses the most: in the 70's the Weather Underground and extreme groups--just to cheese mommy and daddy off. Now they are siding with real terrorists to cheese the rest of us off. They purposely pick the bad guy, just like the teenager looking for attention. How could anyone be for abortion, against the Ten Commandments, unless you are just picking extreme positions to get noticed?


57 posted on 12/18/2004 2:01:47 PM PST by sportutegrl
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To: sportutegrl

Nicely stated!


58 posted on 12/18/2004 2:02:48 PM PST by aroostook war
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To: supercat

I think you and I are going to have to agree to disagree about some of the lib motives.

I do believe that they want to weaken (and possibly destroy) this country. Look at what Kerry wanted to do: halt our bunker-buster programs, stop OUR nuke programs ("unilateral nonproliferation"), and at the same time wanting to offer nuclear fuel to Iran. Kerry wanted to embrace the U.N., and the likes of France who screwed national, and international security. He has undermined this nation before, and was prepared to do it again.

It's up to liberals to get with the program. It is not up to us to hold their hands or find magic pills to make them snap out of it.


59 posted on 12/18/2004 2:02:58 PM PST by KJC1
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To: supercat

"Most liberal puppets believe George W. Bush is trying to undermine our nation..."

Be careful with your words, as you're falling into their trap. They don't "believe" this, rather they say it. They know full well that Bush is looking out for this country's interests. That's what bothers them.

No, they want us to think that they're misguided, just to throw us off. They have about as much respect for democracy here as they do in Cuba. They simply want power...and thus they must be crushed.





60 posted on 12/18/2004 2:02:59 PM PST by BobL
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