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Schwarzenegger Criticized for Saying GOP Should be More Pro-Abortion
LifeNews.com ^ | December 20, 2004 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 12/20/2004 2:26:56 PM PST by Ed Current

Sacramento, CA (LifeNews.com) -- First, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger came under fire from pro-life advocates for backing a $6 billion measure using taxpayer funds to destroy human life in cloning and embryonic stem cell research. Now he drawing criticism for suggesting the GOP should become more pro-abortion.

In an interview with Germany's Sueddeutsche Zeitung daily newspaper published Saturday, Schwarzenegger said the Republican Party should move "a little to the left" on issues such as abortion -- a shift he claims would pick up more voters.

Schwarzenegger told the paper that "the Republican Party currently covers only the spectrum from the right wing to the middle."

"I would like the Republican Party to cross this line, move a little further left and place more weight on the center," he said. "This would immediately give the party 5 percent more votes without its losing anything elsewhere."

However, post-election poll of voters shows that a majority of Americans are pro-life and the abortion issue gave pro-life candidates such as President Bush a twelve percent advantage.

Thinking about their own position on abortion, 55 percent said they took a pro-life position and only 40 percent took one of three positions in favor of legal abortions.

That November 2004 Wirthlin poll conforms to others showing pro-life Republican presidential candidates benefiting from that view on abortion.

According to Lydia Saad, Senior Gallup Poll Editor, "national exit polling in every presidential election since 1984 has shown a net advantage to the pro-life side over the pro-choice side, based on the percentage of single-issue abortion voters in the electorate."

Schwarzenegger's comments drew opposition from Karen England of the Capitol Resource Institute, a California group involved in pro-life issues.

"Schwarzenegger's statements that the GOP would not lose its base if it embraces ... abortion rights show extreme arrogance and total ignorance concerning the values and dedication of the party's core constituents," England said.

"Schwarzenegger has spent too much time in Hollywood. He needs to start mingling more with mainstream Californians," she added.

"We are outraged that Schwarzenegger has the audacity to misspeak for the millions of Republicans in this country who believe that abortion is murder," England concluded.


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To: MonroeDNA

You must be a SLOW learner.


61 posted on 12/20/2004 3:58:54 PM PST by Ed Current (U.S. Constitution, Article 3 has no constituency to break federal judicial tyranny)
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To: Ed Current
"Finally, you start to make sense. I was beginning to think you were a fresh recruit from Moveon.com!"

Check my signup date, newbie.

62 posted on 12/20/2004 3:59:10 PM PST by MonroeDNA (“I feel more comfortable with Soviet intellectuals than I do with American businessmen.” --Soros)
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To: MonroeDNA

POST #61


63 posted on 12/20/2004 3:59:42 PM PST by Ed Current (U.S. Constitution, Article 3 has no constituency to break federal judicial tyranny)
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To: Ed Current
Schwarzenegger said the Republican Party should move "a little to the left" on issues such as abortion -- a shift he claims would pick up more voters.

Giving up values for votes? No thanks.

64 posted on 12/20/2004 4:00:16 PM PST by hattend (Christ is the reason for the season)
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To: MonroeDNA

Maybe you can tell me what that has to do with women abstaining until they are ready to have babies? And maybe you can turn the hostility down a notch.


65 posted on 12/20/2004 4:01:39 PM PST by Hi Heels (Proud to be a Pajamarazzi-Leef lang de Katjes van Viking)
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To: Ed Current; cpforlife.org

I think Ahnold should learn to shut his streudel hole or head back to Berchtesgaden.


[spit]


66 posted on 12/20/2004 4:02:29 PM PST by Petronski (A suitable case for treatment.)
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To: Lutonian
Is that why he is known as the terminator.......

Yeah the Innocent Baby Terminator.

Gives me warm fuzzies all over knowing that Arnold Schwarzenkennedy will never be the President of the United States!

67 posted on 12/20/2004 4:02:32 PM PST by Walkin Man
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To: Ed Current
"Schwarzenegger's statements that the GOP would not lose its base if it embraces ... abortion rights show extreme arrogance and total ignorance concerning the values and dedication of the party's core constituents," England said.

"Schwarzenegger has spent too much time in Hollywood. He needs to start mingling more with mainstream Californians," she added.

*************

Mr. Schwarzenegger has a long way to go before I will consider him to be a conservative.

68 posted on 12/20/2004 4:03:30 PM PST by trisham
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To: Walkin Man

"Schwarzenkennedy"... HAHAahahah...


69 posted on 12/20/2004 4:03:54 PM PST by Hi Heels (Proud to be a Pajamarazzi-Leef lang de Katjes van Viking)
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To: trisham

Mr. Schwarzenegger has a long way to go before I will consider him to be sane.

70 posted on 12/20/2004 4:05:34 PM PST by Ed Current (U.S. Constitution, Article 3 has no constituency to break federal judicial tyranny)
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To: hattend
"This would immediately give the party 5 percent more votes without its losing anything elsewhere."

You provided the response to this: Losing values and morality is a devil's deal.

71 posted on 12/20/2004 4:05:42 PM PST by steve86
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To: demecleze

"They can be more lenient to the pregnant woman but nail the provider for second degree murder of a child with life in jail or death penalty."

Why? If it is wrong it is wrong. The doctor is only carrying out the wishes of the mother. If the mother was able to abort the unborn child on her own why should she be any less responsible? That being the case, the next question come to how we would enforce such a law? This is where I have some issues.

"Just making it illegal and NOT trumpeting it like it was some glorious right of all free woman would be a start."

Completely agree that it should not be trumpted like it is. I think society should make it a (nearly) unacceptable choice. However, I don't like the idea of the government getting involved too much since as I said before enforcement would lead to a nightmare since it is really quite easy for a woman to abort an unborn child on her own without any outside assistance.


72 posted on 12/20/2004 4:13:20 PM PST by Avenger
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To: Ed Current
Thanks for opening a few more eyes here, Eddie...

Schwartzenegger has always stealth lib hiding behind the (R).

73 posted on 12/20/2004 4:14:44 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter

Schwartzenegger has always stealth lib hiding behind the (R).

They are helpless victims of celebrity worship:


74 posted on 12/20/2004 4:20:10 PM PST by Ed Current (U.S. Constitution, Article 3 has no constituency to break federal judicial tyranny)
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To: Ed Current

This should give a clear picture of the topic:

http://abortionno.org/Resources/pictures_2.html


75 posted on 12/20/2004 4:27:21 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Ed Current; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
"The question as to when a human person begins is a philosophical question - not a scientific question. I will not go into great detail here, but ""personhood"" begins when the human being begins - at fertilization." http://www.l4l.org/library/mythfact.html This objective argument refutes all metaphysical speculations stating otherwise.

Thank you! for restating the position the Catholic Church has held for more than 2000 years.

RHL Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Instruction on Respect for Human Life in Its Origin and on the Dignity of Procreation

Catholic Ping - please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


76 posted on 12/20/2004 4:29:19 PM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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To: cpforlife.org; Mr. Silverback
Schwarzenegger is to the Republican Party what John Kerry is the Democrats - a CINO,/b> Catholic In Name Only. Fortunately, as a foreigner, he can't run for the presidency. Let him wallow in the slime he has created in his 'adopted country and state'.
77 posted on 12/20/2004 4:32:50 PM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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To: MonroeDNA
but most of us do not believe that a 10-day old glob of cells is human.

If this "glob of cells" continued its growth unhindered, please let us know just what in the hell would pop out in nine months. A human being or a labrador retreiver?

Is a lit match "fire", or does it only count when it has engulfed the house?

78 posted on 12/20/2004 4:54:21 PM PST by Squeako (ACLU: "Only Christians, Boy Scouts and War Memorials are too vile to defend.")
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To: MonroeDNA

"... but most of us do not believe that a 10-day old glob of cells is human."

Does "most of us" include Democrats and other assorted liberals?
"Most of us" conservatives see a developing human being in that "10-day old glob of cells".


79 posted on 12/20/2004 5:12:11 PM PST by rogator
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To: MonroeDNA
Nothing personal to all of you anti-folks,

Nothing personal to you either, but please save the loaded, canned rhetoric for somewhere else. Most of us here, are quite "pro" in all areas, including "choice" when you are using it in an honest context.

80 posted on 12/20/2004 5:29:40 PM PST by ElkGroveDan
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