Posted on 12/21/2004 8:04:06 PM PST by velocityguy
In Defense of the Constitution
Anti-CAIR News & Analysis 041/04
December 21, 2004
- CAIR: Defending Your Right to Free Speech?
On the Anti-CAIR web site, you will find the following warning posted on the bottom of each archived Press Release and News & Analysis:
“ADVISORY: Subscribers are warned that the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) may contact your employer if CAIR believes you are using a work address to receive any material that CAIR believes may be offensive. CAIR has been known to shame employers into firing employees CAIR finds disagreeable. For that reason, we strongly suggest that corporate e-mail users NOT use a corporate e-mail account/address when communicating with ACAIR or CAIR. We make every reasonable effort to protect our mailing list, but we cannot guarantee confidentiality. ACAIR does not share, loan, sell, rent or otherwise publicize our mailing list. We respect your privacy!”
ACAIR placed that advisory on our postings because CAIR has contacted businesses and corporate e-mail hosts in an effort to silence employees who exercise their First Amendment rights from work, use company e-mail addresses to comment on CAIR's statements and activities.
ACAIR has been contacted by several people whom claimed to be subjected to CAIR harassment. One writer has agreed to allow us to show you how this self-described "Muslim Civil Rights Group" goes about trying to impose the Iranian or Saudi view of free speech (i.e., there is none) on those Americans who dare to express their views.
In August, 2004, the following e-mail was sent to CAIR:
Subject: Imam Ali Shrine
From Your Web Site:
U.S. Muslims Urge End to Fighting Near Iraqi Shrine CAIR says attack would harm America’s image in Islamic world
A prominent national civil rights and advocacy group today said a U.S. attack on the Imam Ali Shrine in the Iraqi city of Najaf would harm America’s image in the Muslim world and called for negotiations to end the fighting.
RESPONSE
The unprovoked Muslim attack on America the killed 3,000+ people harmed the Islamic image in the CIVILIZED world.
The Islamic radicals must be destroyed. Their leader has an arrest warrant issued by Iraqi courts. He is a criminal that is using “holy” sites as protection…clear violation of Geneva Conventions. Any attacks from “holy” sites or storage of weapons in such makes them “fair game” for attacks or retaliation.
Negotiations???? Surely you jest. You people called for a cease fire, which we honored, BUT the radicals did not. They used the respite to rearm and reorganize.
It is hard to conceive of a so-called “religion of peace” being filled with such hatred.
In the above, do we see any evidence of insulting Islam? Imputing of criminal or terrorist intent onto the US/Canadian Muslim community? Gratuitous name-calling or ethnic/religious insults? No?
Then why did CAIR send the following e-mail to the writer’s employer?
Subject: is this e-mail representative of your company?
Peace.
CAIR receive the following hostile e-mail apparently from a (company name) employee. Does its content reflect your company’s views?
Ibrahim Hooper National Communications Director www.cair-net.org 202-488-8787
(The writers e-mail was inserted here)
On August 16, 2004, CAIR’s Ibrahim Hooper called the writer’s employer and left a message on his voice mail…Hooper wanted to know if the writer’s e-mail reflected company policy and asked the employer to call Hooper. The boss asked the writer about the e-mail and the mix-up in the e-mail address was explained. The writer then explained a little about CAIR’s activities and shared his personal opinions regarding CAIR. The boss listened, agreed with the employee and said he had no intention of calling “this guy” back. He finished by saying he did not want some terrorist blowing up the building.
The employee then responded to CAIR:
Subject: Attn: Ibrahim Hooper
Peace.
I was speaking for myself… just forgot to change to email account to my personal account. And no it did not get me “into trouble” as I am sure you hoped it would. You have the audacity to call my email hostile?
I notice you did not respond to my comments. This is so typical. As “Communications Director”, I would expect a high profile NATIONAL response to the evil that is being perpetrated by Muslims world wide. If CAIR does not accept this evil, why are PROMINENT members of your faith not getting out the “truth”. Silence sometimes speaks louder than words.
Do you deny that the cleric that has set up his battle station in the Holy site is not wanted as a criminal under Iraqi law? Do you deny that is trying to upset the move to democracy in Iraq? Do you deny that the Geneva Convention forbids using churches, mosques, temples, etc as a haven for battle sites and storage of weaponry? Do you deny that Imams the world over are teaching hatred on non-muslims, expecially Americans? Do you deny that is was muslims that attacked us on 911? Do you deny that is was muslims that attacked the USS Cole? What about the Kobar Towers?
Speaking “Peace” is on thing and easy to do… living a life of peace is quite another. Do you have the courage to answer my questions? Do you have the courage to LIVE a life of peace and acceptance of those other than muslims?
Hooper did not, or could not, answer. It seems to ACAIR that Hooper is a "free speech bully": he threatens and tries to intimidate Americans into silence, but is actually absolutely terrified of a free exchange of ideas or facts. Why are you so afraid, Doug? Is it because the philosophy of Muslim extremism, as practiced by those who in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere who fund CAIR simply can't stand the sunlight of public debate and objective scrutiny? Why are you afraid of the truth?
CAIR claims it supports civil rights…but its actions, in ACAIR's opinion, demonstrate that it is hostile to the First Amendment guarantee of free speech that is the bedrock for the United States Constitution, and to many of the Judeo-Christian values that have made the U.S. what it is today. ACAIR believes the facts show CAIR hates free expression and free speech, and that if it had the power of the mullahs and autocrats in Iran/Saudi/Gaza, it would treat its critics, and critics of Muslim violence, in the same way. ACAIR asks what next, CAIR? Are you going to decree that anyone who criticizes you or Muslims should be treated just like the writer Salomon Rushdie, who had a death sentence placed on his head?
ACAIR wonders why CAIR is so allergic to criticism, and afraid of free speech and open debate? ACAIR asks why does CAIR try to impose the oppression common in Saudi Arabia or Syria on Americans, here in the U.S.? And ACAIR asks:
…why isn’t this question being asked by the “mainstream” media?
Andrew Whitehead Director, Anti-CAIR (ACAIR) Stockton CA
CAIR needs to be destroyed. No discussion, just destroyed.
CAIR is a front group of al Queda hiring $500 evil shysters to destroy the US using our own laws, a la ACLU.
Mohammed: Christianity's punk for nearly 1400 years
"...Islam = invention of a pedohilic physcopath. Islam = violent faith of the moongod Followers of Islam are badly X'ed by Muhammad aka the pedophile aka the liar aka the camel slammer aka I slam camels --Muhammad"
Gee Velocityguy -- if you don't like Muhammed why don't you just throw caution to the wind and come out and say so.
LOL!
Yea, I did that. I not only said Muhammad is a pedophile. I also said Quran is screwed up big time. You know why I had to say that? Because once up on a time, I was a practicing Muslim. And what happened? I left that psychotic religion. And what happened to me after that? I was threatened with death. So what do I do now? I moved to a different city here in India. I live in this other city now and work here as a VLSI nanometer design Engineer.
So yeap, to give you a cut throat answer ( oh don't confuse my version of cut throat with the physical violent "cut the throat" prescriptions advocated by Quran, by the way), sure indeed I opposed Islam publicly.
If you care to know about other apostates like me, you can visit http://www.apostatesofislam.com/main.htm or if you would like to watch a video of stoning you can watch it at this website. And ofcourse, the stoning is exactly executed on a fellow humanbeing like you and me exactly adhering to Islamic principles.
So here in India, there is no guarantee for my life if someone knows that I publicly protested Islamic violence or its pedophile.
you are asking me to do the same for the second time. Yea, I will do it. but in return will you guarantee my life? You won't be able to. Because if you do, at the earliest there will be a fatwa against you urging your death by these Islamic terrorists.
You are a take-a-stand sort of fellow. Good for you.
I bet you never read Quran or the Hadith.
"CAIR is a front group of al Queda hiring $500 evil shysters to destroy the US using our own laws, a la ACLU."
CAIR is also connected with HAMAS and our government know this and doesn't do an f'n thing about it.
Their hands are definitely in the terrorist cookie jar. Time to lop those hands off in my opinion.
I agree, but to force feed it to the liberal judges, evidence has to be of a nature that not even the MSM can ignore.
--- or our govt could just 'take em out'.
I like option two. We are our own worst enemy if we fail to either deport or eliminate terrorists and terrorist enablers.
Agreed. In the short term, we must silence their voice. I am all for free speech, but let's face it - they're the GD enemy!!! Never at any time in our history would this have been permitted.
For the long term, we must cleanse congress, our courts, and our schools of the radical socialist element!!!(democrats)
You are correct.
Hey Wolfhound777,
Thanks for the info. I gotta get some shut-eye. I'll be chattin' with ya.
Later,
superskunk
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