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Justice Department To America: Lock and Load!
Reason magazine ^ | December 21, 2004 | Brian Doherty

Posted on 12/22/2004 6:56:12 AM PST by TERMINATTOR

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1 posted on 12/22/2004 6:56:13 AM PST by TERMINATTOR
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To: TERMINATTOR

commence firing when ready...


2 posted on 12/22/2004 6:58:42 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece: Hope IS on the way...)
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To: TERMINATTOR

The second amendment secures all of our other rights.


3 posted on 12/22/2004 7:00:40 AM PST by MinstrelBoy (What will you do without freedom?!)
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To: TERMINATTOR
Yay.

I wonder. How significant would this be to the second amendment controversy if the first sentence read:

"Last week, Janet Reno and the United States Justice Department publicly released a long document, signed by three deputy assistant attorneys general, spelling out in great detail the linguistic, historical, and case-law reasons why it officially considers the right to own guns a collective right, as evidenced by the phrase "a well regulated Militia", and not an individual right like the rights protected by the First Amendment."

Hmmmmm.

Now, I think it's great that the Justice Department came down on the side of individual ownership. It's one more nail in the coffin of the collective right supporters.

But they could just as easily done differently under a liberal administration. And had the same net effect: None.

4 posted on 12/22/2004 7:16:50 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: TERMINATTOR

BTTT.


5 posted on 12/22/2004 7:18:12 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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They will take my guns away when they pry them from my cold dead hands.........

Pretty much sums it up no matter what the politilocos think. If you want to punish someone, punish the guilty, the criminal, who misue weapons, not the law abiding citizen executing their rights.


6 posted on 12/22/2004 7:42:12 AM PST by Riddick (<- - - red state guy stuck in a blue state . . . sucks to be me.)
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To: Rakkasan1

'...fire for effect.'


7 posted on 12/22/2004 7:43:17 AM PST by wingnut1971 (.)
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To: TERMINATTOR; Travis McGee; Joe Brower; neverdem

Ping....


8 posted on 12/22/2004 7:43:45 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: TERMINATTOR
Guns in state hands = good
9 posted on 12/22/2004 8:11:53 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Joe Brower; Ancesthntr; aragorn; archy; Badray; Jack Black; meadsjn; Grampa Dave; in the Arena; ...

Bang!


10 posted on 12/22/2004 8:13:20 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: TERMINATTOR

From my cold dead hands.


11 posted on 12/22/2004 8:25:10 AM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: TERMINATTOR

The government can debate this all they want. I've already made my decision.


12 posted on 12/22/2004 8:48:41 AM PST by TigersEye (America! Love it or leave it.)
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To: TigersEye
"The debate over how and to what extent, and based on what arguments, the state may interfere with its citizens' rights to self-defense—or to hunt for food with efficient tools, or even just to pursue sheer fun and games with explosive projectiles—will never end until we come to a settled decision on whether, and to what extent, our lives are our own property and our own responsibility."

The opportunity for any debate ended on December 15, 1791 when the BOR, and Second Amendment were ratified. "Shall not be infringed" is the law of the land.

13 posted on 12/22/2004 8:54:07 AM PST by TERMINATTOR ("I believe in background checks at gun shows or anywhere" - GWB)
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You know and I know, in terms of temporal law, that that is true. But it seems more and more likely that we'll have to fall back on the far older spiritual law that we are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable Rights. I am most profoundly deaf to anyone else's interpretation of that. I will defend my life with anything and everything at my disposal including but by no means limited to firearms. While they debate I prepare.


14 posted on 12/22/2004 9:24:04 AM PST by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky!)
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To: robertpaulsen
Now, I think it's great that the Justice Department came down on the side of individual ownership. It's one more nail in the coffin of the collective right supporters.

But they could just as easily done differently under a liberal administration. And had the same net effect: None.

There is some net effect. This memorandum steers federal prosecution on firearms issues for all federal agencies. There is a trickle down on this with many state and municipal agencies.

Its not as relevant as a Supreme Court decision for sure. But, it will keep some cases from reaching any court at all.

15 posted on 12/22/2004 9:29:30 AM PST by Ghengis
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To: Travis McGee

Bump


16 posted on 12/22/2004 9:31:04 AM PST by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: TERMINATTOR; OXENinFLA

Bookmarked! Merry Christmas!


17 posted on 12/22/2004 10:46:00 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: TigersEye
The government can debate this all they want. I've already made my decision.

As have I.

18 posted on 12/22/2004 11:35:59 AM PST by aragorn (Tag line? What tag line?)
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To: All; TERMINATTOR
Let's see what the guys that wrote them have to say . . . .

And now a few other thoughts, just because I like them.

They tell us, sir, that we are weak, unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed...? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of Hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?
Patrick Henry



"History fails to record a single precedent in which nations subject to moral decay have not passed into political and economic decline. There has been either a spiritual awakening to overcome the moral lapse, or a progressive deterioration leading to ultimate national disaster." --
General Douglas MacArthur

. . . ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA . . . . . .

19 posted on 12/22/2004 4:56:51 PM PST by TLI ( . . . ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA . . . . . .)
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To: TERMINATTOR
Actions speak louder than words.

I'm still waiting for this "pro-gun" administration to repeal the edicts banning guns in national parks, and stop putting speedbumps in the way of pilots flying armed.

20 posted on 12/22/2004 6:02:52 PM PST by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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