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Big Ben Back to Beginning: Facing Ravens (Roethlisberger/Steelers Try One More)
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | 12/26/04 | Ed Bouchette

Posted on 12/26/2004 7:31:24 AM PST by beyond the sea

Ben Roethlisberger can take it full circle today against the Ravens. Back on Sept. 19 in Baltimore, the rookie quarterback was flung into the NFL's high seas, sink or swim. Today, he can skipper the Steelers to the AFC's treasure island, the No. 1 seed in the playoffs.

"That first game, he got his feet wet,'' receiver Hines Ward said. "He's in the water now."

Roethlisberger went from "some little young kid who's just out of college" -- Alan Faneca's infamous description -- to royalty in Pittsburgh in the past three months. He's 12-0, a Pro Bowl alternate, Dapper Dan Man of the Year, a David Letterman guest, Big Ben, with sandwiches and untold babies named after him. He hasn't lost in the past 25 games, going back to his days at Miami (Ohio), as a starter. He did taste losing Sept. 19 when he replaced injured Tommy Maddox early in the third quarter and threw two touchdowns and two interceptions in a 30-13 Ravens victory.

It is the only Steelers loss in a 13-1 season. One more victory, either today or next Sunday in Buffalo, would earn the Steelers a bye in the first round of the playoffs, setting the stage for two victories at home to reach the Super Bowl in Jacksonville.

(Excerpt) Read more at post-gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afc; football; nfl; playoffs; ravens; rookie; steelers; streak; superbowl
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To: IndyTiger; E Rocc

As a sane Steeler fan, I never had the courage to go to old Cleveland Stadium in over 40 years when I could (gutless)......... like driving a VW bug to a hunting reserve with "I Reserve The Right to Arm Bears" stickers all over it.


101 posted on 12/26/2004 3:33:46 PM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: Petronski

By the way, 60 'Too Many' Minutes, on in a few minutes on SeeBS, may just have a decent show tonight. Stories on the great singer Ray Charles and the Patriot's Coach Belichick are included. Should be better than the usual bull.


102 posted on 12/26/2004 3:55:27 PM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: beyond the sea

Well, it was a good day. Steelers win big and so do the Hershey Bears, 5-0. Time for a beer!


103 posted on 12/26/2004 6:02:50 PM PST by airborne (Happy Birthday Jesus!!)
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To: airborne

5-0 ..... congrats.


104 posted on 12/27/2004 4:01:35 AM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: IndyTiger

"I have always maintained that Bradshaw was a good QB who played on a great team. "

Bradshaw had a genius few people recognized. In his early days the Steelers would often find themselves in third and long situations. He knew he was just as likely to complete one 60 yards as one 20 yards, so Bradshaw would step back and throw the ball sixty yards, often resulting in an interception. "What an idiot!" people would say. Yeah, he just threw the ball farther than the punter could kick it and put the other team in a hole. Crazy like a fox, Terry.


105 posted on 12/27/2004 4:16:26 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: beyond the sea; lightingguy

Thanks for the ping and please add "lightingguy" to your Steeler ping list! Thanks. :)


106 posted on 12/27/2004 8:16:52 AM PST by agrace
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To: beyond the sea
As a sane Steeler fan, I never had the courage to go to old Cleveland Stadium in over 40 years when I could (gutless)......... like driving a VW bug to a hunting reserve with "I Reserve The Right to Arm Bears" stickers all over it.

It wasn't really that bad. I had some good times up there in the "Mistake of the Lake" --- what I can recall of them --- and never had any 'serious' trouble. Lots of good natured ribbing and lots of beer flowing. The cities and the fans were so much alike which is what made it a great rivalry.

107 posted on 12/27/2004 8:57:23 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: fhayek

Nobody, I mean nobody wants to face Buffalo in the playoffs. Even Pittsburgh, that's why I think Pittsburgh will go all out to beat the Bills, they don't want to see them in the playoffs.

Likewise, nobody wants to face the Panthers in the playoffs, especially the Eagles.


108 posted on 12/27/2004 9:02:35 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Ditto
The cities and the fans were so much alike which is what made it a great rivalry.

Correctamundo, so much alike!

Go Stillers and long live The Cleve Brownies!

109 posted on 12/27/2004 9:40:33 AM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: dfwgator; fhayek
Nobody, I mean nobody wants to face Buffalo in the playoffs. Even Pittsburgh

How have you come to that conclusion? Just wondering. What's so darn frightening about 'da Bills?

110 posted on 12/27/2004 9:43:13 AM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: beyond the sea
As a Giants fan, my season ended early this year, so I must say:

GO STILLERS!!!

111 posted on 12/27/2004 9:43:35 AM PST by Clemenza (Morford 2008: Not that there's anything wrong with it!)
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To: Clemenza
Hey, I still remember your Giants Y.A. Tittle from a game here in '64.

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PHOENIX -- Morris Berman, whose photograph of a bloodied Y.A. Tittle kneeling in the end zone ranks among the most famous images in sports history, has died. He was 92.

Berman died Sunday in suburban Sun City of congestive heart failure, said Randi Braford, his stepdaughter.

While working for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in 1964, he took the photo of the New York Giants' quarterback in the end zone after he was sacked by John Baker of the Pittsburgh Steelers. It turned out to be the last game of Tittle's career.

"His photo editor wouldn't run the picture in the newspaper because it didn't have any action in it," said Greg Garneau, executive director of the National Press Photographers Association.

The photograph was subsequently published and became a sports icon, Garneau said.

It won the National Headliner award for best sport photograph in 1964 and now hangs in the National Football Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio.

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Have you ever seen that picture? Btw, my family knew your great executive George Young pretty well. He was quite a smart guy.

112 posted on 12/27/2004 10:05:48 AM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: beyond the sea
I've seen the photo. Mr. Berman truly got the snap of a lifetime.

YA Tittle was a childhood hero of my father's. His Church would sponsor one trip to Yankee stadium a year to watch the Giants from up in the bleachers.

I was born in '76, so the Steelers were at Three Rivers for much of my life. Did they play at Forbes field prior to that?

113 posted on 12/27/2004 10:09:43 AM PST by Clemenza (Morford 2008: Not that there's anything wrong with it!)
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To: Clemenza

bttt


114 posted on 12/27/2004 10:22:17 AM PST by Clemenza (Morford 2008: Not that there's anything wrong with it!)
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To: Clemenza
Here's a url you can go to to read about Y.A. Tittle and that game in 1964.

http://www.nydailynews.com/city_life/story/137685p-122423c.html

115 posted on 12/27/2004 10:31:57 AM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: Clemenza
The Steelers played at Forbes Field in the 50's. I am not sure exactly what year they moved to Pitt Stadium ( I looked all over google), but it was most likely in the very early 60's, because Tittle in '64 was at Pitt Stadium.

I saw the Steelers play at Forbes Field a lot, but only once or twice at Pitt Stadium.

116 posted on 12/27/2004 10:35:38 AM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: beyond the sea
How have you come to that conclusion? Just wondering. What's so darn frightening about 'da Bills?

Let's look at their current win streak:
Sun. Nov. 21 St. Louis Win 37-17
Sun. Nov. 28 @Seattle Win 38-9
Sun. Dec. 5 @Miami Win 42-32
Sun. Dec. 12 Cleveland Win 37-7
Sun. Dec. 19 @Cincinnati Win 33-17
Sun. Dec. 26 @San Francisco Win 41-7

The fewest points scored during that stretch: 33. And outside of the Miami game, they've only given up a little over 10 a game. Granted they've come against some of the weak sisters of the league, but still a blow-out against any team is impressive in today's NFL, especially when they can do it on the road.

117 posted on 12/27/2004 12:56:26 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: dfwgator
That is pretty impressive, but you included the key words: "Granted they've come against some of the weak sisters of the league". But still, it's very impressive. A win in the NFL and a big win is impressive. I think I'll have to look into your team!

By the way, Cowher and Donahue for the Bills are not exactly friends these days. This could get interesting and add to the intrigue!

Good luck with your team, except against us in the playoffs. You can have Sunday's game. Ben's sitting, and so are a bunch of other guys. You just may pull that one out.

Happy Holidays!

118 posted on 12/27/2004 2:24:45 PM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: beyond the sea

FWIW, I am not a Bills fan myself, I just noticed how well they are playing, I wouldn't mind seeing the Steelers take the title (anyone but the Eagles).


119 posted on 12/27/2004 2:49:23 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: dfwgator
FWIW, I am not a Bills fan myself

Oh, then screw the Bills. ;-)

120 posted on 12/27/2004 2:52:16 PM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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