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[Mutiny in the Pakistan army?] - 30 More Pakistani Soldiers to Get Death Penalty for Indiscipline
South Asia Tribune ^ | December 26, 2004 | M.T.Butt

Posted on 12/26/2004 6:35:58 PM PST by Saberwielder

30 More Pakistani Soldiers to Get Death Penalty for Indiscipline

By M T Butt

ISLAMABAD, December 27: As many as 30 Pakistan Army and Air Force personnel are facing the death penalty in several Court Martial proceedings going on in Military Courts in the Kharian Army Cantonment, about 60 miles from Islamabad, highly competent military sources have revealed to South Asia Tribune.

In a remarkable release of confidential information, these sources also gave the details of the Charge Sheet against the only Army soldier sentenced to death by the same military court on October 20, 2004.

Surprisingly the Charge Sheet does not accuse Sepoy Muhammad Islam Siddiqi, Army No 8831068 of any direct participation or involvement in the attack on General Pervez Musharraf in December 2003 near Chaklala Bridge in Rawalpindi, contrary to what was claimed in the official announcement on December 24.

Director General of Pakistan Army’s Inter Services Public Relations, Major General Shaukat Sultan had confirmed on Dec 24 that one Pakistani soldier had been sentenced to death. Confirming the story first broken by Karachi journalist Syed Saleem Shahzad in Asia Times Online on December 21 about the death sentence, Maj. General Sultan had also announced that another soldier had been awarded a 10-year jail sentence. Click to see original Asia Times Story

But military sources are now saying the official version given by ISPR Director General was badly distorted and in fact more than 30 Army and Air Force personnel are have been charged with the same crime and will soon get the same sentence. Announcements about these death sentences will be staggered to minimize the impact.

The ISPR claimed that the death sentence had been given for involvement in the assassination attempt on General Musharraf but actually Sepoy Muhammad Islam Siddiqi had refused to serve in South Waziristan and was at best guilty of violating military discipline along with dozens of others.

The Army prosecutors who did not want to publicly admit that largescale defiance had taken place in South Waziristan where the Army had been deployed against the tribesmen, merged the indiscipline charges against these troops with the assassination attempts on General Musharraf and sought death sentences for the accused.

According to these sources the South Waziristan operation had turned out to be biggest dent in Army discipline when several units declined to be posted in South Waziristan and dozens of troops refused to continue the fight against tribes. The Army top brass was shaken and most of these troops were recalled from the front line.

Convicted Sepoy Islam Siddiqi was among them who was arrested in South Waziristan on defiance and abetting defiance among soldiers and sent to Kharian Cantonment where, after a brief interrogation, he was tried and convicted on October 20, 2004.

Following charges under the Pakistan Army Act (PAA) were read out by a Brigadier who headed the military court:

First Charge

PAA Section 59: Committing a civil offence, that is to say receiving training in terrorism, In that he, at Bhimber (Azad Jammu and Kashmir) during August 2002, received training in the acts of terrorism, at the “Maasker” a training camp of ‘Jaish-e- Mohammed’ a proscribed organization and thereby committed an offense punishable under sub-section (7) (C) of the Anti Terrorism Act, 1997.

Second Charge

PAA Sec 55 (alternative to first charge): Conduct to the prejudice of good order and military discipline, in that he at Bhimber (Azad Jammu and Kashmir) during August 2002, improperly attended at a ‘Maasker’, the training camp of a sectarian organization.

Third Charge

PAA Section 31(d): Attempting to seduce a person in the military forces of Pakistan from his allegiance to the Government of Pakistan, in that he at Peshawar, during Feb 2003 attempted to seduce 8839274 Sepoy Hafiz Muhammad Ashfaq of 2 Defence Services Guard Battalion, from his allegiance to the Government of Pakistan.

Fourth Charge

PAA Section 31(d): Attempting to seduce a person in the military forces of Pakistan from his allegiance to the Government of Pakistan, in that he, at Peshawar during Feb 2003 to January 2004 attempted to seduce 889174 sepoy Hafiz Salah Uddin of 1 Defence Services Guard Company, from his allegiance to the Government of Pakistan.

Fifth Charge

PAA Section 59: Committing a civil offence that is to say, professing to belong to a proscribed organization, in that he, at Peshawar, Murid and elsewhere, during January 2002 to January 2004 professed to belong to ‘Jaish-e-Mohammad’ a proscribed organization: and thereby committed an offence punishable under section 11-F (2) of the Anti Terrorism Act 1997.

Sixth Charge

PAA Section 59: Committing a civil offence that is to say being a citizen of Pakistan, departing from Pakistan without passport, in that he, at Pak-Afghan border, during June 1999, being a citizen of Pakistan, departed from Pakistan without a passport to Afghanistan in contravention of Section 3(a) of the Passport Act, 1974 and thereby committed an offence punishable under section 4(1) of the Passport Act, 1974.

Seventh Charge

PAA Section 55: Conduct to the prejudice of good order and military discipline at Murid, Peshawar and elsewhere during July 2002 to January 2004, improperly remained associated with a Tanzeem (organization) of Pakistan Air Force personnel, which was advancing the object of eliminating General Pervez Musharraf, the President of
Pakistan.

Eighth Charge

PAA Section 55 (alternative to seventh charge): Neglect to the prejudice of good order and military discipline in that he, at Murid, Warsak and elsewhere, during July 2002 to January 2004, having known that some personnel belonging to a Tanzeem of Pakistan Air Force had designs to eliminate General Pervez Musharraf, the President of Pakistan neglected to report the same to his superiors.

Ninth Charge

PAA Section 55: Conduct to the prejudice of good order and military discipline, in that he, at Peshawar during September-October 2003, improperly received 6 x capsules containing poison from No 3060314 Havaldar Mohammed Younis of 98 Air Defence Regiment with ulterior motives.

Military sources and legal experts contacted by the South Asia Tribune said if these charges were made the basis of the death sentence give to Sepoy Islam Siddiqi, then hundreds or even thousands of Pakistan Army troops could be found guilty and convicted.

These experts said the closest Sepoy Siddiqi came to the assassination attempt on General Musharraf was to get “associated with an organization of Pakistan Air Force personnel, which was advancing the object of eliminating General Pervez Musharraf, the President of Pakistan.” This in no way proves, or even accuses, Siddiqi of having a hand in the unsuccessful attempt on Musharraf.

They said if Siddiqi could be sentenced to death for being associated with the organization which had “designs of eliminating General Musharraf” then the entire organization would have to be found equally guilty and put to death.

Likewise if traveling to Afghanistan without a passport was made the basis of death sentence, the entire tribal population and three-fourth of residents of NWFP could be found guilty of the same crime as no one in the Tribal Areas needs a passport to cross into Afghanistan.

Similarly defying military orders to fight in South Waziristan against fellow tribal citizens could land hundreds of Pakistan Army troops into the same category deserving death penalties.

On a political level the charges against arrested soldiers also confirm that many members of the Pakistan armed forces have been actively training with military Islamic organizations like Jaish Mohammed in Azad Kashmir and other locations within Pakistan.

“This is an implicit admission by the Army that such camps existed and elements of the Army were directly involved in one capacity or another. This could substantiate charges leveled by the Indians of Army’s active support and involvement in the insurgency in Kashmir,” a legal expert said.

Even if these elements were not supported by the top Army brass, it confirms that there were factions within the Army which did not follow the official Army and State policy and that could also turn out to be very damaging for Pakistan.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; isi; jaish; jihad; kashmir; musharraf; nukes; pakistan; southasia; terrorism; waziristan
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This is serious stuff. These guys hold the keys to about a 100 nuclear warheads!
1 posted on 12/26/2004 6:35:59 PM PST by Saberwielder
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To: AdmSmith; Boot Hill; Arjun; sukhoi-30mki; Coop; Cronos

Ping!


2 posted on 12/26/2004 6:37:50 PM PST by Saberwielder
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To: Saberwielder

So, kill them already!


3 posted on 12/26/2004 6:41:18 PM PST by Tarpaulin (Look it up.)
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To: Saberwielder

Sure is serious!


4 posted on 12/26/2004 6:51:00 PM PST by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: Saberwielder
This is serious stuff. These guys hold the keys to about a 100 nuclear warheads!

Agreed , treason is a bitch. fry them already .

5 posted on 12/26/2004 7:22:44 PM PST by Deetes
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To: Saberwielder

I don't see why anyone should object to the Pakistanis cleaning up their ranks. Why is this bad?


6 posted on 12/26/2004 7:25:23 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer; hellinahandcart; Thinkin' Gal; Happygal; AnnaZ; Poohbah; ...
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M.T.Butt

In that region, no unusual last name, but those initials . . .

(Compare and contrast Cukoo Butt.)

7 posted on 12/26/2004 7:34:19 PM PST by dighton
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To: Dog Gone
I don't see why anyone should object to the Pakistanis cleaning up their ranks. Why is this bad?

Because this is a sign of how bad the Islamist tendencies in Pakistan's army have metastasized into. If you're a student of history, you'll see parallels between this and the slow Islamization of the Iranian armed forces before the Shah was overthrown.

8 posted on 12/26/2004 7:39:02 PM PST by Saberwielder
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To: nuconvert

Was he chewing gum with out enough for the others? Man that guy is strict! ( Blazing saddles scene for the recruitment of bad guys).


9 posted on 12/26/2004 7:42:11 PM PST by eastforker (Ask me about a free satellite TV system!)
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To: Dog Gone

Because Musharraf depends on the support of 4 regional corp commanders to stay in power.No one is sure how SLAMMIC any or all of those 4 are.If one is nutcase,that can cause huge problems for everyone.


10 posted on 12/26/2004 8:24:46 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Dog Gone

Wading thru it all, it would seem that these Sepoys are getting whacked for being too cozy with the Fundamental Islamists. The Pakistani military and civil authorities are in a constant balancing act between radicals who want to be the first 5th century Caliphate with a nuclear capability, and the moderates who simply want a peaceful Western democracy that has it's neighbor, Hindu India, as a smoking, irradiated ashtray from Lahore to Madras...


11 posted on 12/26/2004 8:25:46 PM PST by jonascord (What is better than the wind at 6 O'Clock on the 600 yard line?)
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To: jonascord

", Hindu India, as a smoking, irradiated ashtray from Lahore to Madras..."

India is a secular nation with nearly as many Muslims as in Pakistan. & Lahore happens to be in Pakistan.


12 posted on 12/26/2004 9:01:38 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Lahore is a border town.

Not three years ago India and Pakistan were within hours of nuking each other. Islam has survived, unwanted, in India for hundreds of years, and Hindus and Muslims have been slaughtering each other for hundreds of years over it. Pakistan and Bangladesh exists because the Hindus drove the Muslims out of the Raj in 1948. Kashmir is claimed by both countries, and just to make things more exciting, the Sikhs want independence from both because they seem to believe they are better than the rest of India. A pox on all the houses...

13 posted on 12/26/2004 9:22:16 PM PST by jonascord (What is better than the wind at 6 O'Clock on the 600 yard line?)
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To: dighton
M.T.Butt

" In that region, no unusual last name, but those initials . ."

These people have NO sense of propriety...

Wouldn't the alias of M.T. Bladder made more sense??

14 posted on 12/26/2004 9:25:13 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: jonascord; Arjun; AM2000

East & West Pakistan were formed because of the Muslim league's demands for a separate Muslim state,not because Hindus drove Muslims out.If that was so,explain how 138 million Muslims live in India & are in far better shape than their cousins in Pakistan??& Pakistan & India were independent in 1947 & not 1948.The birth of Bangladesh in 1971 was itself a sign of the futility of Pakistan's Muslim identity-East Pakistan gave way to Bangladesh due to the action of the Indian army.Sikhs are a microscopic minority in Pakistan with no rights or privileges.A section of Sikhs & not the whole community wanted independence from India in the 80s(who were supported by Pakistan).Since then,most Sikhs are happy to be in Punjab state in India & around 4 democratic elections have been held in that state since,which is now the richest in India.The Indian prime minister is a Sikh & so is the new army chief designate.

In short,read up on the history of the subcontinent-ur knowledge on it is too stereotyped


15 posted on 12/26/2004 9:39:46 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

& Lahore is still a part of Pakistan-has been since 1947.


16 posted on 12/26/2004 9:40:50 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: jonascord
Pakistan and Bangladesh exists because the Hindus drove the Muslims out of the Raj in 1948.

Actually, the demand for a separate Muslim homeland was first raised by the Muslim League. The Hindu-dominated Indian National Congress was against any sort of separation. They agreed to it only after it became apparent that without separation there would be no independence.

17 posted on 12/26/2004 10:55:05 PM PST by AM2000 (I am not responsible for the contents of this post.)
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To: jonascord

You have no idea what you are talking about.


18 posted on 12/26/2004 11:54:12 PM PST by Arjun (Skepticism is good. It keeps you alive.)
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To: jonascord

Succint, India wouldn't shed a tear if it was a vice versa eh?


19 posted on 12/27/2004 12:28:50 AM PST by Atchafalaya (When you're there, thats the best!)
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8 These guys hold the keys to about a 100 nuclear warheads!”

I don't like contributing to your ongoing efforts to sow discord and to undermine support for the Administration's strategy in Pakistan, by adding any post that would bump your thread, but I couldn't leave that foolish statement of yours go unanswered.

Contrary to what you state, the only Pakistani access to nuclear weapons is held by the Military's top leadership, and they are the very ones that prosecuted these Islamists dogs. These trials and executions are a perfect example of the wisdom and success of Bush's policy in Pakistan and of Mushi's resolve in fighting these Islamist scum.

So, you're against protecting those nukes from Islamists? Go figure!

8 Mutiny in the Pakistan army? - 30 More Pakistani Soldiers to Get Death Penalty for Indiscipline”

You do know that it is against Free Republic rules to post imaginary titles, don't you? And you do know that the word "mutiny" is not part of the original title, nor does it even occur in the story text, don't you?

Why do you make up stuff like that? Oh, that's right, you've got an agenda you're trying to sell.

--Boot Hill

20 posted on 12/27/2004 1:24:23 AM PST by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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