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Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp (Vietnam Human Rights Bill)
International Christian Concern ^ | 12/27/2004 | Montagnard Foundation

Posted on 12/27/2004 5:36:00 AM PST by miltonim

Keep in prayer for the Vietnam Human Rights Bill. It is presently in the Senate after passing by a wide margin in the House.

If you have any doubt about whether the Bill should pass, take a look at the picture below of an actual re-education camp in Vietnam provided by the Montagnard Foundation. Re-education camps are where believers are typically sent.

Stay tuned as we will post a picture per day over the next 4 days.


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12/26/2004 Vietnam
Picture 3 of a Vietnamese Re-Education Camp

Keep in prayer for the Vietnam Human Rights Bill. It is presently in the Senate after passing by a wide margin in the House.

If you have any doubt about whether the Bill should pass, take a look at the picture below of an actual re-education camp in Vietnam provided by the Montagnard Foundation. Re-education camps are where believers are typically sent.

Stay tuned as we will post 4 pictures, one per day for 4 days. 


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12/25/2004 Vietnam
Picture 2 of A Vietnamese Re-Education Camp

Keep in prayer for the Vietnam Human Rights Bill. It is presently in the Senate after passing by a wide margin in the House.

If you have any doubt about whether the Bill should pass, take a look at the picture below of an actual re-education camp in Vietnam provided by the Montagnard Foundation. Re-education camps are where believers are typically sent.

Stay tuned as we will post a picture per day over the next 4 days.


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12/24/2004 Vietnam
Picture 1 of A Vietnamese Re-Education Camp

Keep in prayer for the Vietnam Human Rights Bill. It is presently in the Senate after passing by a wide margin in the House.

If you have any doubt about whether the Bill should pass, take a look at the picture below of an actual re-education camp in Vietnam provided by the Montagnard Foundation. Re-education camps are where believers are typically sent.

Stay tuned as we will post a picture per day over the next 4 days.

 

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To: All; mdcrandall

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NEVER ever FORGET


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301 posted on 11/03/2006 10:05:53 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com.)
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To: pray4liberty

Bump! You nailed him.


302 posted on 11/04/2006 7:05:12 AM PST by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

BTTP bump.


303 posted on 11/04/2006 7:46:53 AM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: syriacus
The Dems are doing their best to create a national revulsion toward voting. Their best shot is to get moral people to feel repelled by politics.

What else can we expect from these cheaters? They can't cheat the vote one way, so to try to cheat us out of exercising our right to do it is their new tactic?

Either way, it's obvious, they can't win unless they cheat somebody.

304 posted on 11/04/2006 4:02:16 PM PST by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: Paul Ross

:::::curtsey:::::::


305 posted on 11/04/2006 4:04:18 PM PST by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: All; reformjoy

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This Was the Week That Was:

1971 finally caught up with a Freedom-Hating Enemy Within JOHN KERRY, through his own mouth.

And Freedom-Loving Vietnamese Americans feel it better than most.

Just ask their many knife wounds
thrust upon them by GODless Re-Education Camp Guards after a Fall of Saigon brought on by...

...JOHN KERRY, his long time friend TED KENNEDY, BILL CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM, WALTER CRONKITE, JANE FONDA, TOM HAYDEN, JESSE JACKSON et al.


NEVER FORGET all this as you go to the Polls to vote next Tuesday, OK..?


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306 posted on 11/04/2006 11:29:06 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com.)
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To: YOUGOTIT

Actually, they don't admire the people as much as they admire the POWER the people have.

It's the POWER they envy. Total control over people.


307 posted on 11/04/2006 11:42:07 PM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Thank you for letting me know about the movie, Journey From The Fall

As is said at the end of the above clip, "The world needs to know what happened."

You are a very valuable resource to me and to all of Free Republic. Thank you.

308 posted on 11/05/2006 11:27:06 AM PST by .30Carbine ("To be always relevant, you have to say things which are eternal." ~Simone Weil)
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To: miltonim

Camp Jean Francois Kerry...


309 posted on 11/05/2006 3:52:39 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: killjoy

"Wishful thinking"? So, just for clarification, you support Christians being sent to re-education camps?


310 posted on 11/05/2006 8:54:55 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Protect the country...Vote straight Republican!)
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To: ran15

Our government doesn't train the children to do any such thing. I'm living proof, and probably so are you. But the left is becoming more pervasive, and parents are becoming less involved.


311 posted on 11/05/2006 9:01:12 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Protect the country...Vote straight Republican!)
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To: miltonim

Where are the United Nations, International Red Cross and Amnesty International?


312 posted on 11/05/2006 9:09:14 PM PST by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; Grampa Dave; freema

bttt


313 posted on 11/05/2006 9:15:11 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: chauquach

We are all sorry for what your father, you and your family.
The pictures do indeed have something to do with John Kerry and the Democrats. Kerry's actions caused torture. Just ask veterans of the Hanoi Hilton what they did to them after JK and Jane Fonda spouted off.
Most people, unless they are young, know what the VC did and to whom. They took a page from China's playbook.
As for your father not killing anyone. I'm sorry, but I wouldn't be so sure. Would you be unhappy if he killed a VC?
And those of us who jump on "Bush's wagon" as you called it, do so because we hate the evil like that that went on in Vietnam. It is because of our compassion for those that live without the freedoms we enjoy that we support such a strong and clear-minded President. True, we can't fully understand the grit and horror of war, but it is the appreciation for the gifts that come from it. If we had been able to finish the job as we were so poised to do, then Vietnam would be a much better place, and your family would have, perhaps, had a better life. Your anger is misplaced, my friend. Be angry at the VC for what they did, and be grateful that there are those that didn't have to suffer.


314 posted on 11/05/2006 9:30:42 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Peace with Freedom is Tyranny)
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To: SandRat

That was my thinking exactly. Looks staged. At least I hope we're right.


315 posted on 11/05/2006 9:32:23 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Peace with Freedom is Tyranny)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

You got that right, Ronnie. They keep saying that this is another Vietnam, because they are so fervently hoping it will be. Defeat to a Liberal is a great thing!


316 posted on 11/05/2006 9:38:12 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Peace with Freedom is Tyranny. Vote Republican!)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Too late! Canada can keep him!


317 posted on 11/05/2006 9:39:13 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Peace with Freedom is Tyranny. Vote Republican!)
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To: killjoy

gave up huh troll?


318 posted on 11/05/2006 10:09:19 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: miltonim

Way to go Kennedy and dems! I bet you would like this for us too?!


319 posted on 11/05/2006 10:11:45 PM PST by rbosque
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To: oneamericanvoice
"Wishful thinking"? So, just for clarification, you support Christians being sent to re-education camps?

Of course not. I simply asked for proof.

320 posted on 11/05/2006 10:16:46 PM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: bobby.223
gave up huh troll?

I hate to be the one to break the news to you, but this thread is about two years old.

321 posted on 11/05/2006 10:17:45 PM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: oneamericanvoice

BTTT


322 posted on 11/06/2006 2:31:32 AM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; Ajnin; ..

AHOLA PING


323 posted on 11/06/2006 2:33:44 AM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: judywillow
Dear Judy,
We have yet to read of any refugees streaming northward in VietNam. We have, however, read of many people executed by the communists after their takeover, and the imprisonment and other punuishment of many more.

There is also the troubling question of the massacres in Cambodia, in which the numbers of dead and disappeared were only equalled by Hitler and Stalin.

Yes, we made many an error in VietNam. Chief among them was our refusal to fight to a finish and win, based on what turned out to be a faulty assumption that this would lead to intervention by China and Russia. The quarter-century between Korea and VietNam did not, in that regard teach us much.

But it did teach our enemies ... actual and potential ... that we no longer had the guts for military solutions to military problems. It also taught our enemies that our policies could be manipulated by an alliance between them and our media.

324 posted on 11/06/2006 8:18:01 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Vote for your life, and the life and prosperity of this country.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

NEVER FORGET!


325 posted on 11/06/2006 9:23:36 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: All; Kenny Bunk; reformjoy; Alamo-Girl; Republic; ExTexasRedhead


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What's truly at stake for us now..?

http://www.ObsessionTheMovie.com


The Jihadists want to replace our U.S. Constitution with Islamic Law, our President with an Islamic Mulah in the White House.

BELIEVE IT..!!!


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326 posted on 11/06/2006 8:14:46 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com.)
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To: freema

Thanks!

BTW, my tag should have read "Peace Without Freedom Is Tyranny!" But FReepers are smart and you all got that, right?


327 posted on 11/06/2006 9:19:27 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (For America's sake, Vote straight Republican!)
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To: killjoy

They've given you proof, but for some unknown reason, you don't want to accept it.

Check out "Voice of the Martyrs" for more proof.


328 posted on 11/06/2006 9:25:42 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (For America's sake, Vote straight Republican!)
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To: All; freema


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Thank you, freema, for your kind ALOHA ping,


....just for the CLARITY of it.


AR

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329 posted on 11/07/2006 5:40:11 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com.)
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To: killjoy

"Please give me documented proof that people are sent to camps in Vietnam for simply being Christian"

You gotta be kidding, right? You think any gov't documents things like that, in English?

Read 1984 by George Orwell, they are sent there for crimes against the state; like "thought crime". And the things they are guilty of, we would call Christian behavior.... It's totaly believable.

And all that aside, if YOU were upset over Abhu Grabe, you should feel these people are being mis-treated NO MATTER what their crime!


330 posted on 11/07/2006 6:13:19 AM PST by AmericanDave
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To: EagleUSA


A few words on "re-education."

For a loyal soldier of the Forces of South Vietnam, the standard trip to hell at the hands of the Communists was 13 years. If you lived.

My wife's brother Fong died in the prison. Rest his soul. My wife, thankfully, is a survivor. She persevered for eight long years.

I met, just the other day at the Jiffy Lube, one Mr. Nguyen Nguu. I think he was a Lieutenant Colonel because he was a graduate of the Command and Staff College at Da Lat.

He spent thirteen years as a "guest of the Communists."

It is never pretty.

Please go and read and ppost a comment at:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/1734005/posts?page=2


331 posted on 11/07/2006 8:33:40 AM PST by John Carey
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To: killjoy
Christians....

Wishful thinking. No one is sent to a re-education camp simply for being Christian.

In Vietnam they most certainly are if not beaten to death in their meeting place or home.

332 posted on 11/07/2006 3:27:34 PM PST by free_life
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To: miltonim

Brought to you by John F'n Kerry, Jane Fonda, communist retard hippies and a Democrat Congress. Me, and my brothers in arms won that stinking war! Look it up.


333 posted on 11/07/2006 3:31:35 PM PST by timydnuc (I'll die on my feet before I'll live on my knees.)
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To: killjoy
ANOTHER public schooled trained member of the politburo?

Yawn...

Just like no Jews were killed in the concentration camps?

Strawman arguement... Please give me documented proof that people are sent to camps in Vietnam for simply being Christian. Sorry, it does not happen. There is plenty of proof of Nazi prosecution of Jews.

I know personally some who go to Vietnam to work among the underground church and death or re-education is the norm for believers who are caught or just sometimes accused by someone else. Documented proof? Are you tuned into the real world? How, get access to offical files or maybe we should contact the free press in Vietnam? Nuts!

334 posted on 11/07/2006 3:36:23 PM PST by free_life
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To: killjoy
So please give me documented proof, from a non-Christian group, of this currently happening in Vietnam. I am not talking about people being prosecuted who happen to be Christian, but where their only crime is being Christian.

How about someone I know and trust who knew a pastor of a village church who was beaten to death in front of his congregation and then the congregation was trucked away to....? This happened in 2006. Why? They were Christian and were illegally meeting. Sorry I don't have photos and the witnesses are no longer around to talk to.

335 posted on 11/07/2006 3:41:10 PM PST by free_life
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

"In thy faint slumbers I by thee have watch'd

And heard thee murmur tales of iron wars ... "

--Shakespeare, Henry IV, Part I


336 posted on 11/07/2006 4:03:10 PM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: All; freema


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Praise GOD that...

LOVE is the Only Reality and...

GOE is LOVE..?


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337 posted on 11/08/2006 8:10:00 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com.)
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To: free_life
I know personally some who go to Vietnam to work among the underground church and death or re-education is the norm for believers who are caught or just sometimes accused by someone else.

Please define 'underground church'. There are Christian churches all over Vietnam where people worship without any interference from the Vietnamese government.

338 posted on 11/08/2006 6:29:51 PM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: miltonim

Coming to Iraq and Afghanistan soon, thanks to the same folks who brought it to Vietnam--the Democratic Party of the United States of America.


339 posted on 11/08/2006 6:34:28 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (I dare call it treason.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

What else could so great a thing as love be, but God.


340 posted on 11/08/2006 6:48:51 PM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: killjoy

I found several news stories on google from non christian sources reporting persecution of Christians and even massive deaths and torture in current Vietnam within the last 5 years. It's not hard to find non christian sources of those stories. What's up with you? You some kind of weirdo or something?


341 posted on 11/08/2006 10:44:56 PM PST by momof9
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To: momof9
What's up with you? You some kind of weirdo or something?

I am living in Thailand, travel to Vietnam, and speak from first hand experience. Christians practice openly in Vietnam. Maybe people want to deny it because it would dry up funding for their NGO/charity of choice?

342 posted on 11/09/2006 1:34:38 AM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: All; momof9

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Freeper Alert: Sen. KERRY / Vietnamese Killing Off Christians in Central Highlands...

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/675016/posts


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343 posted on 11/09/2006 10:01:53 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com.)
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To: killjoy
I am curious why the site you are so fond of doesn't mention persecution for other reasons.

Because it was set up specifically to chronicle Christian persecution all over the world, of which there is a great deal. This group focuses their efforts in one direction, thereby maximizing the use of their resources. There is nothing wrong with that.

344 posted on 11/10/2006 8:53:48 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: killjoy

You might read here.

http://www.ishr.org/activities/religiousfreedom/christiansinvietnam.htm

"However, the International Society for Human Rights (ISHR) observes with great concern that Vietnam has discriminated, harassed and persecuted religious communities for years. ISHR records that in 2001 alone several hundred believers - among them all important religious leaders - were arrested or put under house arrest."

The ISHR is a non-profit NGO that bases its work on the UN Declaration of Human Rights.


345 posted on 11/10/2006 9:00:56 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen
"However, the International Society for Human Rights (ISHR) observes with great concern that Vietnam has discriminated, harassed and persecuted religious communities for years. ISHR records that in 2001 alone several hundred believers - among them all important religious leaders - were arrested or put under house arrest."

I have no doubt about that. Vietnam is far from paradise. My main complaint with this thread, and most of the people posting on it, is they completely trivialize Vietnam's real problems by inventing bogus atrocities. Stick to the facts and there are plenty of reasons to criticise Vietnam. Making up 'fake but accurate' lies wishing they were true simply cheapens the message and makes one into a fool.

346 posted on 11/10/2006 9:24:59 AM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: killjoy
"Maybe people want to deny it because it would dry up funding for their NGO/charity of choice?"

Persecution by govt. is persecution, no matter the reason. Maybe you want to deny it because it would dry up business opportunity for you if anything was ever done about it.

347 posted on 11/10/2006 9:28:43 AM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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ping


348 posted on 11/10/2006 10:55:59 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: miltonim
This is what world's going to look like if you keep voting Democrat.
349 posted on 11/10/2006 11:05:21 AM PST by jackieaxe (Unsourced reporting is not reporting but a lie or a manipulation)
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To: All; killjoy; Zack Nguyen; angkor; ThanhPhero; Lexington Green; reformjoy; Sic Luceat Lux; ...


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NEVER FORGET


I personally have had my fingers run down long deep scars that had long ago been put upon Vietnamese Americans now living in California's Little Saigon.

Both men & women, who suffered for many years at the hands of knife wielding Peoples Army Guards in Communist Vietnam's"Re-Education" Concentration Camps afer the Fall of Saigon ..after we had CUT & RUN.

Scars that run from the middle of their stomachs all the way down to their navels.

As I did so they all asked me, with tears runing down their faces...

.."Why did they do this to me?"

.."Because they COULD" was my answer.

These victims of Communist tyranny were eagerly registering to vote here in the 2004 Presidential Election ...to enthusiastically vote against a man they knew had killed Freedom for their homeland South Vietnam long ago,


...one JOHN KERRY.

And they were correct in doing so.

The purpose of my devoting 2 years to continously posting on this important Freerepublic.com thread was to graphically share with my fellow Americans what the once Free South Vietnamese People were forced to suffer through after we had abandoned them, ...thanks to those who confused us here at home through our Media about our Freedom Mission of the Vietnam War.

My hoped for end result was the preventing those same people responsible for confusing us into leaving the Free People of South Vietnam behind, from doing so again to the now Free People of Iraq & Afghanistan.

By stopping them,

...at the Polls,

...from regaining control of our U.S. Congress & White House.

A White House that Al Qaeda today proclaimed would be bombed.

Our enemies abroad and Within have now been emboldened and we did it to ourselves by losing focus on what brought us all here in the first place ..the Attacks of September 11th, 2001 by Al Qaeda:

http://www.RickRescorla.com


The Vietnamese American Movie Release of 'The JOURNEY from the FALL' a year ago would have taken us a long way towards getting a different result then we got last Election Day Tuesday.

With a coming March 2007 Movie Release instead ..'JOURNEY' will still serve to remind us all of what happens to others when we abandon them:

Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts


And to NEVER do it again..!!!


NEVER FORGET

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350 posted on 11/10/2006 11:52:41 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com.)
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