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Married, without children: Finding fulfillment with no kids
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 1/3/05 | Mark Wolf

Posted on 01/03/2005 8:31:56 AM PST by qam1

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To: exnavychick
LOL...based on the kinds of things they said in the interview, you know they want your daughter (and my sons) to subsidize their retirement!

I would think that without kids, and the expenses they bring such as college, they have more money that the rest of us, and don't need any subsidy. And don't forget that the childless are forced to pay public school taxes for those that do have children. That is indeed a subsidy.

61 posted on 01/03/2005 8:56:01 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: Tijeras_Slim
We're not kid people.

You evil terrible person. You must be sad Kerry lost!

< /mindless kneejerk response typical of these threads>

62 posted on 01/03/2005 8:56:24 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: Aquinasfan

Selfish hedonism.

;-)


63 posted on 01/03/2005 8:56:38 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Shaking nine point oh - With a deadly wave goodbye - oh four departed...)
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To: Tax-chick
"Whether or not I want to have kids is not the only consideration," said Wenker. "I believe there's a problem with population, serious issues with the environment, and I believe I have to be part of the solution."

What an idiot! Follow that logic to its end and I guess the human race must extinguish itself in order for the earth to survive.

64 posted on 01/03/2005 8:57:20 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Xenalyte
LOL! Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that unmarried people should be expected to have families....You have a very good reason to choose to be single. My comments were specifically aimed at married people who choose to not have children, and most likely for selfish reasons. Obviously, medical conditions are another exception.

However, I stand by my comments about grandchildren. Nothing can compare to that.

65 posted on 01/03/2005 8:58:05 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: qam1

I Me Mine bump


66 posted on 01/03/2005 8:58:20 AM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: Bella_Bru; Tijeras_Slim

Hope TS doesn't drive a volvo either ;-)


67 posted on 01/03/2005 8:58:43 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Ellesu
I respect anyone's decision to remain childless, but don't be envious of those who do and have baby showers.

OK, I can go along with that. But child-free folk find themselves leaned on a lot with the idea that they have free time that those who CHOSE to have kids don't.

68 posted on 01/03/2005 8:59:28 AM PST by freedumb2003 (My DU name is Bunny Planet and I don't care who knows it! Everyone reveal yours!)
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To: Ellesu

I had to laugh when the woman said that childless women are not celebrated like moms-to-be. Who in their right mind would be jealous of not having a baby shower?


69 posted on 01/03/2005 8:59:48 AM PST by retrokitten
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To: Ellesu

I agree. DINKS dual income no kids, no future, need to import poverty to have these people support something.


70 posted on 01/03/2005 8:59:54 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: Rummyfan
I guess the human race must extinguish itself in order for the earth to survive.

These population-crisis types always think there's just enough room for them and their friends. "Just enough of me; way too much of you!" as P.J. O'Rourke put it.

71 posted on 01/03/2005 9:00:23 AM PST by Tax-chick (To turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just.)
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To: qam1
There is such hostility on this thread to those who have chosen to not have children. I don't know where such hostility comes from but I can say this...It's nobodies business but their own.
72 posted on 01/03/2005 9:00:45 AM PST by Durus
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To: Sam Cree

BECAUSE IT IS ALL ABOUT ME....


73 posted on 01/03/2005 9:00:53 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: qam1

Being childless and having abortions are from the same root: selfishness. Period, end of story. If you could have, but do not have, kids, why waste the oxygen? I know this is harsh, but...


74 posted on 01/03/2005 9:01:39 AM PST by DennisR (Look around - there are countless observable hints that God exists)
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To: Durus
I don't know where such hostility comes from but I can say this...It's nobodies business but their own.

What a refreshingly CONSERVATIVE opinion!

75 posted on 01/03/2005 9:01:59 AM PST by countess
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To: qam1

My personal recommendation is if you want kids, do it young. My wife passed when I was 45, she had a son by a previous marriage, but we never had any together, and I'm not close with her son at all.

Now, at 50, I very much regret not having any.


And still deeply miss her.


76 posted on 01/03/2005 9:02:00 AM PST by djf
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To: tallhappy
I'd guess the demographic of this group is largely democrat voting.

I've never seen a demographic. But, every childless by choice person that I know in my age group (Boomers) is a conservative Republican. That includes me.

77 posted on 01/03/2005 9:02:43 AM PST by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: All

My wife and I have been married for 6 years now and do not have children because we are trying to finish college.

Meanwhile our siblings have children but are uneducated and struggle to provide for them. We are both 28 and feel that we still have time however we do find ourselves isolated at times by our parents who think we are weird for being married so long without children.

I can relate to this article. We often ponder about having children but have zero desire to do so right now.

If we do have children we want to be able to provide the best for them that we can therefore finishing college is a must!


78 posted on 01/03/2005 9:02:44 AM PST by TSgt (Brunettes, Guns and FR: These are a few of my favorite things...)
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To: TommyDale
You have a very good reason to choose to be single. My comments were specifically aimed at married people who choose to not have children, and most likely for selfish reasons

"Most likely." How is having children a selfless act? Most people who have children are expressing the ultimate in selfish megalomania -- they want to make another copy of themselves.

Now, this is OK -- it is nature's way if using our self-love to propogate the sepcies. But don't elevate people who have kids to some sort of selfless status. It just ain't so.

79 posted on 01/03/2005 9:03:01 AM PST by freedumb2003 (My DU name is Bunny Planet and I don't care who knows it! Everyone reveal yours!)
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To: rlmorel
It seems to me the dichotomy in society is growing. I don't have kids so I am not sure how this works but most of my friends who do, have their whole lives wrapped up in their kids. I can't tell you how many Christmas cards I have with their kids on them. You know I really don't care.

Then there is the other extreme in our culture. Work, career, 24-7. I don't mind talking business occasionally after hours but I mean geez, I really don't care who's at what firm and who got to try what case.

On the other hand, my one friend has his whole life wrapped up in his boat. There's a guy with priorities.

80 posted on 01/03/2005 9:03:21 AM PST by bigeasy_70118
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