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MSNBC Predicts Senate Shut-Down Over Judges
MSNBC-TV | 1/4/05

Posted on 01/04/2005 9:29:29 AM PST by pabianice

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To: liberty2004
I would love to hear your secret formula for holding Chaffee, Snowe, Collins, and Specter in line

A little secret the Democraps has is a little J Edgar Hoover move.

Everyone has 'ghost in their closets'.

Chaffee, Snowe, Collins, and Specter aren't saints.

I'm sure the Republicans know a few secrets about the dims. Time to get down and dirty with the dims, that's the way you serve them their heads.

81 posted on 01/04/2005 11:40:01 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: You Dirty Rats

How hard did he fight? He rolled over like a bowl of jello going downhill.


82 posted on 01/04/2005 11:41:44 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pabianice

bring Senate business to a grinding halt.

Sounds great. Let's send all f congress home for a few years.

"No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him". -- Thomas Jefferson

That the majority of laws do not protect individual life-and-property rights and instead violate those is emphasized with the following questions:

How is it that Americans and society increased prosperity for several decades or two centuries without last year's new laws or this year's new laws? How is it that people and society increased prosperity in the first half of the 20th century without the laws of the second half of the 20th century? How is it that Americans and society continue to increase prosperity this year with out the laws of the next five, ten or fifteen years?

Law makers they are. They're draining individuals and society. On net accounting law makers in congress via the laws they create and impose on people and business they drain more benefits/values from individuals and society than they add.

Politicians and bureaucrats create burdensome/hindering laws and regulations to justify their unearned pay-checks. They create problems, not solutions. They feed off the productive and creative efforts of citizens. They spend taxpayer dollars to make themselves look good -- they usurp power and glory. That's why and how they earned the parasitical- elite label..

83 posted on 01/04/2005 11:43:31 AM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: pbrown

You can't win if you have a majority unwilling to support you. Cicero could have been Majority Leader and it wouldn't have changed a thing.


84 posted on 01/04/2005 11:47:11 AM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: Congressman Billybob
Well, if that's the way it's commonly defined ("nuclear" option), fine. That's not the way I define "nuclear", so I'll change my nomenclature to fit the imprecise terminology, i.e., not all-out, everything goes.

I didn't confuse apples and oranges. I suspect the snide remark was because I happened to disparage your club.

85 posted on 01/04/2005 11:55:56 AM PST by jammer
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To: You Dirty Rats
A silver tongued devil can sell a refrigerator to an Eskimo.

The dims like finesse and nuance, give 'em some.

86 posted on 01/04/2005 11:56:28 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: You Dirty Rats
P S

we HAVE majority now.....will he need another excuse for the no vote on anyone Bush nominates?

At some point, Frist needs to start playing hardball with the big boys and girls.

87 posted on 01/04/2005 11:59:31 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: jammer
The "nuclear" option, which has been discussed here on FreeRepublic for more than a year, off and on, has ALWAYS concerned just the filibuster over judicial appointments. No one has EVER suggested getting rid of the filibuster generally. So, you are barking up the wrong tree.

And I am curious -- what is the "club" that you think I am a member of, and which you wish to "disparage"? I'm not much of a joiner of clubs, so you may have another misconception going on.

Billybob
88 posted on 01/04/2005 12:03:52 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.)
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To: pbrown
A silver tongued devil can sell a refrigerator to an Eskimo.

Bull. No politician ever fit the description of "silver tongued devil" more than Bill Clinton, and he couldn't convince the Congress (majority 'Rat in both houses at the time) to pass his wife's crappy health care plan.

To suggest that a better sales pitch will change the minds of Senators is naive in the extreme.

89 posted on 01/04/2005 12:08:32 PM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: pbrown
we HAVE majority now.....will he need another excuse for the no vote on anyone Bush nominates?

For crying out loud, we've had the majority for exactly three hours and eight minutes. You are completely unreasonable on this subject.

90 posted on 01/04/2005 12:09:38 PM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: Congressman Billybob

Maybe Jammer thinks you are a member of Skull and Bones like Bush squared and Kerry.


91 posted on 01/04/2005 12:11:08 PM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: You Dirty Rats
For crying out loud, we've had the majority for exactly three hours and eight minutes. You are completely unreasonable on this subject.

Then they have wasted eight minutes.

The dims have a plan.....and they had their plan before eight minutes ago. Time is irrelevant here. A plan is what is needed to head them off.

92 posted on 01/04/2005 12:17:38 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Preachin'
Other than the 1st US Supreme Court Chief Justice, has anyone ever been elevated to chief justice without having first served on the US Supreme Court?

Earl Warren - no prior judicial experience - governor of California

93 posted on 01/04/2005 12:17:53 PM PST by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: You Dirty Rats

I guess the Taft thing runs in generational cycles.

President Taft. Blah.

Senator Taft. Awesome.

Governor Taft. Phooey.

Does the guv have a son?


94 posted on 01/04/2005 12:24:54 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: pbrown
We don't need no stinkin' plan. We just need 50 votes to uphold a ruling by the President of the Senate that would exclude judicial confirmation votes from the filibuster. We didn't have them before; we have them now. No time has been wasted; all nominees have to go through committee first. Remember what the good book says: Patience is a virgin (A. Bunker).

If the 'Rats filibuster and the nucular [sic] option isn't used in this Congress, then I'll be screaming bloody murder right alongside you.

95 posted on 01/04/2005 12:25:29 PM PST by You Dirty Rats
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