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Here comes the Draft!!! (Troll's zot-proofing needs work)
Beliefnet.com ^ | Posted by Gomer HogDog, now a Pyle of ashes.

Posted on 01/05/2005 8:38:49 AM PST by HogDog

Brethren Agree to Revive 'Alternative Service' Draft Programs

By Kevin Eckstrom Religion News Service Leaders of the Church of the Brethren say they will follow through on a request from the Selective Service to have "alternative service" programs in place for conscientious objectors if a draft is reinstated.

As one of the historic "peace churches" that shun military service, Brethren officials were "cautious" after an unannounced visit by a draft official to a church center in Maryland last October. Officials were worried that the visit signaled that a draft may be at hand. In follow-up meetings, draft officials urged the church to dust off long-standing "alternative service" programs that allow conscientious objectors to serve in two-year domestic service projects in lieu of military service.

In a meeting Dec. 10, the church's council voted to "maximize our efforts" on alternative service, as well as help "guide our youth in their choice of nonviolent service."

"We don't want to miss the part of providing resources to our youth that will help them understand and embrace the Brethren peace witness," said Chris Bowman, moderator of the church's 2004 conference.

Selective Service officials have insisted there are no plans to reinstate the draft, and said Alternative Service Director Cassandra Costley stopped by the Brethren Service Center simply because she was in the area.

Dick Flahavan, a spokesman for Selective Service, said officials did their best to convince church leaders there is no draft on the horizon. "We answered every one of their questions and they didn't leave with anything hanging," he said. "What we were telling them was what we tell everyone. The story hasn't varied."

Brethren leaders also agreed to meet in March with other Anabaptist churches that oppose military service. The meeting in Elgin, Ill., will bring together six Brethren and Mennonite groups to discuss "how to prepare for alternative service opportunities."


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This sounds like good news to me.

More of our young men and women need to experience the joys and discipline of the miltary.

Hopefully these panty waists mentioned above will be forced to join as well.

Semper Fi!!

1 posted on 01/05/2005 8:38:50 AM PST by HogDog
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To: HogDog

bump


2 posted on 01/05/2005 8:39:03 AM PST by HogDog
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To: HogDog

draft them now bump


3 posted on 01/05/2005 8:39:24 AM PST by HogDog
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To: HogDog; Admin Moderator

Ozone?


4 posted on 01/05/2005 8:40:18 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: HogDog

We have record numbers of enlistees and have to turn large numbers of them down to keep the quality high.

Draft. Sure we are. The COB is just trying to raise money using scare tactics


5 posted on 01/05/2005 8:40:28 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: TXBSAFH

That's what I was thinkin, too.


6 posted on 01/05/2005 8:40:34 AM PST by jtminton (<><)
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To: HogDog

HogDog
Since Jan 5, 2005


7 posted on 01/05/2005 8:40:40 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: TXBSAFH
"Ozone?"

Oh, I think so.

8 posted on 01/05/2005 8:40:55 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: TXBSAFH
Ozone?

You mean the draft?

9 posted on 01/05/2005 8:40:59 AM PST by HogDog
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To: HogDog

Hello. Goodbye.


10 posted on 01/05/2005 8:41:13 AM PST by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: HogDog

Welcome to FR.


11 posted on 01/05/2005 8:41:29 AM PST by eyespysomething (And a happy new year!)
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To: HogDog
Goodbye.


12 posted on 01/05/2005 8:41:33 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Rap - the other Disco)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

What does my signing up have to do with the article on the draft?


13 posted on 01/05/2005 8:41:35 AM PST by HogDog
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To: HogDog

That is not the original title of the article. Please read the posting guidelines before posting articles unless, of course, your intent is to try to mislead people.


14 posted on 01/05/2005 8:41:45 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: HogDog

Happy Zot Year.


15 posted on 01/05/2005 8:41:56 AM PST by jpl (The tribe has spoken, now for goodness sake, get a life.)
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To: HogDog

Welcome to Free Republic


16 posted on 01/05/2005 8:42:05 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate ((This space for let))
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To: Bahbah

sniff, sniff.

Must concur...


17 posted on 01/05/2005 8:42:06 AM PST by Hoodlum91
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To: HogDog
Do you like kitties?


18 posted on 01/05/2005 8:42:12 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: reagan_fanatic

What would reagan say about the draft?,just asking


19 posted on 01/05/2005 8:42:17 AM PST by HogDog
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To: TXBSAFH; AppyPappy; HogDog

Aw, give 'em a chance to reply.


20 posted on 01/05/2005 8:42:22 AM PST by eyespysomething (And a happy new year!)
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To: HogDog

SERVE UP A BIG OL' BOWL OF ZOTULANCE!!!


21 posted on 01/05/2005 8:42:23 AM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: Hotdog; Zavien Doombringer; 4mycountry; dighton; Poohbah; jriemer; MeekOneGOP; mhking; Old Sarge; ..

*sniff*


22 posted on 01/05/2005 8:43:03 AM PST by TheBigB ("Eat my rubber!"--Clark W. Griswold, Jr.)
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To: TXBSAFH

Yep.

Here kitty, kitty.


23 posted on 01/05/2005 8:43:03 AM PST by americanMel (God's Love never fails....1 Corinthians 13:8)
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To: HogDog; Admin Moderator

Where are the Kitties?


24 posted on 01/05/2005 8:43:03 AM PST by eastforker (Ask me about a free satellite TV system!)
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To: AppyPappy

sorry, put you down by mistake!


25 posted on 01/05/2005 8:43:03 AM PST by eyespysomething (And a happy new year!)
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To: HogDog; MeekOneGOP

The President has said many times there will be NO draft.

Is there a reason for this post beyond the obvious?


26 posted on 01/05/2005 8:43:06 AM PST by WestCoastGal ("If you can't run with the big dogs, you'd better go sit on the porch." (Daytona 500 46 days);-)
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To: HogDog
Why are liberals so eager to force young men and women into the military, when the all-volunteer system is working so well?

I guess you peacenik humps just need a hollow log to bang on.

27 posted on 01/05/2005 8:43:10 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Constitution Day
Yes I do like kitties.

Do you like the draft that is the question?

28 posted on 01/05/2005 8:43:15 AM PST by HogDog
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To: HogDog

Aren't you late for your NAMBLA meeting, troll?


29 posted on 01/05/2005 8:43:52 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Rap - the other Disco)
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To: HogDog

Do you mean the draft from the trap door that just opened up?


30 posted on 01/05/2005 8:43:53 AM PST by Safetgiver (Mud slung is ground lost.)
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To: dead
I guess you peacenik humps just need a hollow log to bang on.

or just to bang...

31 posted on 01/05/2005 8:44:06 AM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: WestCoastGal
The President has said many times there will be NO draft.

Presidents say a lot of things...

32 posted on 01/05/2005 8:44:11 AM PST by HogDog
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To: HogDog
"Do you like the draft that is the question?"

I suppose this could be discussed in the abstract, but, since there will not be a draft, it seems like a waste of time, no?

33 posted on 01/05/2005 8:44:41 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: HogDog

Is the President lying?


34 posted on 01/05/2005 8:44:43 AM PST by KJacob (If I yawn it is only in anticipation.)
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To: HogDog

I doubt the draft will return in any form even remotely similar to previous instances. Our all-volunteer military (despite whiners to the contrary, stop-loss IS part of the contract, as is recall for IRR) would not integrate well with draftees. The draftees wouldn't want to be there, and would by their actions endanger the volunteers (who then wouldn't want the draftees there either).

Plus, you need to spend a huge amount of money to train soldiers now, and probably more for draftees (who, again, wouldn't want to be there, and would thus "learn" slower).

For that money, you can increase the recruiting targets (higher budget for the services for troop strength), and boost signing bonuses and bennies (not to mention salaries), which would go much further in bringing up troop strength than selective service.


35 posted on 01/05/2005 8:44:50 AM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: HogDog; SittinYonder

nevermind, loser!

Go crying home, but make sure your selective service card is filled out, the jack booted thugs will be coming for you any day now.

Why do you hate your dad?


36 posted on 01/05/2005 8:45:00 AM PST by eyespysomething (And a happy new year!)
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To: MEG33; dubyaismypresident; 4mycountry; Pan_Yans Wife; Charlie OK; E Rocc; dirtboy; Alas Babylon!; ..
Incoming ZOT ping!


37 posted on 01/05/2005 8:45:00 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (This tag line may only be removed by owner.)
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To: HogDog

You may be a fromer Marine, but that does not leave you out from being stupid! You are about to fecieve a massive incomming ZOT!

To quote a line from a movie;

Hello....and


GOODBY!





Freeper Arty BN;

LOCK & LOAD FOR A MASSIVE ZOT!


38 posted on 01/05/2005 8:45:15 AM PST by TMSuchman (American by birth,rebel by choice, MARINE BY GOD!)
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To: HogDog

I like the draft. . . 16 ounces at a time.


39 posted on 01/05/2005 8:45:16 AM PST by jtminton (<><)
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To: HogDog
Me thinks HogDog does not understand the significance of "kitties", "ozone", or "A Bunny with a pancake on it's head" :-)

I'm gonna keep an eye on this thread, but Pudge the Indestructible is allready flipping up the scope caps on his Mauser. :-)
40 posted on 01/05/2005 8:45:23 AM PST by hiredhand ( "Pudge the Indestructible Kitty" lives at - http://www.justonemorefarm.com)
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To: HogDog
Presidents say a lot of things...

Like "I did not have sex with that woman, Ms Lewinski"

"I did not inhale"

"It depends what the definition of is, is"

41 posted on 01/05/2005 8:45:30 AM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: HogDog

42 posted on 01/05/2005 8:45:48 AM PST by glock rocks ( Remember - Only YOU can prevent FReepathons. - Become a Monthly Donor)
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To: eyespysomething

He's replied.

Replies are also zot worthy.


43 posted on 01/05/2005 8:45:56 AM PST by Hoodlum91
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To: reagan_fanatic
Aren't you late for your NAMBLA meeting, troll?

I see I like little children because I disagree with you.

Brilliant, just brilliant.

44 posted on 01/05/2005 8:46:01 AM PST by HogDog
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To: HogDog
What would reagan say about the draft?,just asking

In 1980 he campaigned to end registration.

45 posted on 01/05/2005 8:46:26 AM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: HogDog
"Presidents say a lot of things..."

Like??

46 posted on 01/05/2005 8:47:02 AM PST by WestCoastGal ("If you can't run with the big dogs, you'd better go sit on the porch." (Daytona 500 46 days);-)
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To: KJacob
I'm not sure.

It seems odd to me that this type of thing is going on if there are no plans for a draft...

Makes you think...

47 posted on 01/05/2005 8:47:11 AM PST by HogDog
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To: HogDog
I see I like little children because I disagree with you.

You're post is misleading then you bump it so everyone can see your stupidity, brilliant!

48 posted on 01/05/2005 8:47:21 AM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: HogDog

Oh brother...

http://users.wolfcrews.com/toys/vikings/


49 posted on 01/05/2005 8:47:42 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: HogDog
There does not appear to be any evidence in the article you posted. Why then do you believe the conclusion?
50 posted on 01/05/2005 8:47:57 AM PST by KJacob (If I yawn it is only in anticipation.)
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