Posted on 01/06/2005 11:15:43 PM PST by kattracks
It's interesting and enlightening to spend quality time in an Islamist forum so we can better understand how they actually feel about us...
Apparently the Christians have blasphemed Allah because "... they ascribe a son to the Most Gracious ". A poster on the Al-Maghrib.org forum called Abu MishMish presents a long list of the worst recorded natural disasters starting with the volcanic explosion at Tambora in 1883. He notes that most of these disasters occur in December especially around Christmas time. (And, strangely enough, hit non-Christian countries such as Indonesia).
Poster Hadeed Indeed agrees:
Assalamu 'AlaikumA "Kufr" is anyone who doesn't believe in the Muslim religion (or the particular sect of the Muslim religion which the poster belongs). He doesn't say how he intends to clear the earth of the Kufrs.That is really interesting - all those dates do revolve around the celebrations of the kuffar.
SubhanAllahi 'amma yasifoon wa 'amma yushrikoon
Maybe, but Allah (SWT) has other ways of doing that with Mercy. It's well known that earthquakes/and sending of Reeyaah (winds) have often been the ways Allah destroys people. Wallahu a'lam
We really need to clear this earth from Kufr, Allahumma asta'aan
Ps. Those other dates that are not bolded... maybe if the disasters were a form of punishment from Allah(SWT), then who knows, maybe the people were involved in so much shirk whch caused their ruin - e.g. from the faiths of buddhism, hinduism and chinese/japanese cults.
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I don't question the President's wisdom. He is doing the right thing. As to the outcome, time will tell. Get back to me in six months, see if the Aceh moslems are still happy about the marines saving their lives. See if they even remember. I'm willing to be proven wrong in my bet, but we'll see.
On what basis do you contend that adherents of Islam "worship a different God"?
Christians worship God who revealed Himself through the incarnation of Jesus the Christ. Moslems deny this God. Therefore by definition they worship something else.
Do you apply that reasoning to Judaism?
I'm not Jewish and do not presume to speak with authority for Judaism. Sorry if I set you up with my grouping them together. But I have my opinion on the matter.
I don't doubt that Allah and Yahweh are mortal enemies--IMO Yahweh would not turn and instruct a tribe of pagan savages to wipe out his Chosen People, and kill and persecute and enslave the disciples of His Son. He also has said "Thou Shalt have no other God before Me." What part of "No other God" is hard to understand?
But you may disagree.
So do you believe that "Allah" is non-existent?
So do you believe that "Allah" is non-existent?
I don't know. I do know, that if it does exist, it is not the God of Abraham and not the God I worship on Sunday.
Thanks for clarifying your perspective.
"that Christians acting like Christians will show the love of God in Christ."
It's what we do. Or what we''re supposed to do at least.
Thanks for this.
Like Christianity and Judaism, Islam does express itself in various flavors, but I do think it is telling that almost none of these flavors of Islam will bring themselves to vociferously criticize the Osamas of the world.
yeah, so why didn't the tsunami happen to the us bible belt, like in the gulf of mexico, instead of to a heavily muslim and buddhist area?
"To be fair, it is human nature for the recipients of charity to often resent their benefactors because their self-respect may be shattered and they feel that they can never repay."
I understand that this can happen. To be clear, though, you are talking about vanity, not self-respect. There is nothing about being victimized by a tsunami, and accepting assistance from others, which should put one's self-respect at risk.
I would say, rather, that the resentment of which you speak is generated by a lack of humility, not a lack of self-respect. And let us be clear: Islam incites arrogance as the appropriate posture toward "infidels."
Most definitely. Muslims, collectively, are appallingly arrogant and yet they have nothing to be arrogant about. Only sub-Saharan Africa is more backward and screwed up dar-al-Islam. Whatever prosperity they possess is derived from petroleum, foreign investment and/or the diligence of non-Muslim minorities.
ping to comment #8.
Look I know many Muslims where I live, and I think there religion is nuts, but they are Republicans and pretty decent overall. Don't be a jerk. There religion may be nutty, but so is that of Mormon's, who are also good republicans.
Don;t misunderstand me. I am only talking about American Muslims who are conservative. But I know some of these people and some are small government, pro-Iraq liberation, social conservatives who love Bush. You can disregard their religion and still see them as allies. You are talking about radical islam that is anti-american and communist. I am just saying you have got to distinguish between the two.
Well you have to understand two things. The muslims in that part of the world are less ideological than those in the middle east. They are more open to respecting the US. That is Bush's brilliance here. He can cut off the militants from these people by making our soldiers heroes. Please try to give him and his advisors the credit they deserve. I know it won't work 100%, but if only 10% that is a victory.
Hmmm, sounds like Calvinism to me. The old notion of pre-destination.
These degenerates have nothing in common with Christians and Jews, because they worship a different god. Gratitude to their fellow man is no more a moslem value than honesty or integrity is.
You're cherry picking proverbs and actions, then comparing the best of Christianity and Judaism with the worst of Islam. You can just as easily do the opposite.
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