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Dead voted in governor's race King County investigating 'ghost voter' cases
Seattle PI ^ | 1/7/05 | Michelle Nicolosi

Posted on 01/07/2005 6:42:10 AM PST by pissant

At least eight people who died well before the November general election were credited with voting in King County, raising new questions about the integrity of the vote total in the narrow governor's race, a Seattle Post-Intelligencer review has found.

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The evidence of votes from dead people is the latest example of flaws in an election already rocked by misplaced votes and allegations that there were thousands more votes counted than actual voters.

County officials say they are investigating the cases pointed out by the P-I. "These are not indications of fraud," said Bill Huennekens, King County's elections supervisor. "Fraud is a concerted effort to change an election."

The P-I review found eight people who died weeks before absentee ballots were mailed out, between Oct. 13 and 15, but were credited with voting in King County. Among them was an 81-year-old Seattle woman who died in August but is recorded as having voted at the polls.

The state is required by law to send monthly lists of the deceased to county auditors so they can purge those names from their voter rolls. But those lists are sent only every few months. That means thousands of deceased voters may have been sent absentee ballots.

"If we don't receive a notice that they're dead, then we have no way of taking them off the rolls," said Dean Logan, the county's elections director. Relatives of the deceased can and do cancel some registrations, he said.

Doris McFarland said she voted for her husband, Earl, who died Oct. 7.

"I called up the elections board and said, 'Can I do it because he wanted me to vote?' " the Duvall woman said. "The person ... said, 'Well, who would know?' I said, 'I don't want to do anything that is wrong.' "

Huennekens disputed that election workers would say such a thing.

McFarland said she signed her husband's name and mailed in his ballot, along with her own. She said she had power of attorney for her 92-year-old husband, who was blind.

"If I did something that wasn't right, you can just throw that ballot out," McFarland said last night.

Huennekens said one of the P-I's eight cases involved an administrative error that showed a deceased person as voting and would be corrected. In four cases, the signatures on the ballot matched. Huennekens said officials needed further information or could not track down enough information on the other cases.

Election officials said that if cases merit potential fraud, they would forward them on for prosecution.

King County keeps a voter list as a record of who voted in elections and to establish requirements for levies and bonds, Logan said.

The preliminary voter list shows that Mary Coffey mailed in a ballot. But the 51-year-old Seattle woman died about two weeks before absentee ballots were mailed.

"She couldn't have (voted). She died on Sept. 29," said her husband, Michael Coffey. He added that he voted by mail, but destroyed his wife's ballot when it arrived in the mail.

"I don't see how she could have voted. It doesn't make sense. There has to be some kind of error that happened."

Election officials were still looking into what happened in her case.

Bob Holmgren said yesterday that he voted on behalf of his late wife, Charlette Holmgren, who died Sept. 29. The West Seattle man filled out his own ballot and hers, and signed both of them.

"Her vote was important to her," Holmgren said. "She was very strongly against Governor-elect Gregoire." Election officials said all signatures on absentee ballots were doubled-checked against the signature on record.

"Our system of allowing people to vote absentee and never checking anything is designed for voter convenience at the expense of security," said Chris Vance, chairman of the state Republican Party.

He said the GOP has found cases of dead people casting ballots, and it plans to challenge the race results.

Votes from the 2004 election have been heavily scrutinized . With Democrat Christine Gregoire set to take office on Wednesday, Republicans are searching for ways to contest the election and force a revote.

Kirstin Brost, spokeswoman for the state Democratic Party, said, "We're very satisfied with the results of this election. It's the most closely examined election in our state's history."

James M. Courneya of Auburn died three months before the election. But the King County voter list shows that he voted absentee.

"He couldn't have. He died Aug. 7," said his wife, Anna Courneya, who resides at the same address as her late husband. She said her husband didn't receive a ballot but she did. She voted absentee but the King County voters list doesn't register her vote, only his.

Huennekens said Anna Courneya voted using her husband's ballot, and because she didn't cast a separate one, that ballot was valid.

The state Health Department sends out lists of the deceased "every two to three months," not every month as the law states, said Jennifer Tebaldi, who helps oversee the department's vital statistics operation.

"We have an informal understanding with the counties that we send it when there's a bulk of information to send."

County auditors received lists of the deceased from the state three times last year -- on Jan. 28, May 5 and Nov. 1, a day before the election. Most of the names they received in May were of people who died in 2003, because of a lag of four to six months in collecting and sending data.

Secretary of State Sam Reed said a statewide voter database, expected in 2006, would improve the process.

He said he hasn't seen the problem of dead people voting occur in Washington. Voter fraud is a serious crime that may be punished with up to 10 years in prison and up to a $10,000 fine, he said.

"We do not expect people to sit down and vote a ballot just because it happens to arrive in their homes," Reed said. "Double-checks are in place."

Rosalie B. Simpson, 81, died of a massive heart attack Aug. 4, but voter rolls show she voted at the polls.

If a voter dies after having voted, it's still perfectly legal, Logan said.

Owen Skau of Federal Way made his choices before he died last October, said his wife, Maya.

"He filled it out," she said. "He always voted. ... He filled out his vote before he fell and had a heart attack. But he had it filled out. I went ahead and mailed it in."

Other voting problems may also be raised. Timothy Harris, general counsel for the Building Industry Association of Washington, which is preparing a court challenge of the governor's race, said his group has documented about 50 felons who did not have their voting rights restored but voted in Pierce County.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democratscheat; dinorossi; election; electionfraud; fraud; rossi; votefraud; voterfraud; washington; washingtonstate
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To: pissant

I see dead voters everywhere. They are voting, but they don't even know they're dead.

- mis-quote from Sixth Sense. Or maybe more accurate than I thought....


21 posted on 01/07/2005 7:02:30 AM PST by Danae (Dip bullets in Pig fat. Terrorist Kryptonite.)
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To: Baynative

I believe it was Huey Long who said, "When I die, bury me in southern Lousiana. That way I can remain active in politics."


22 posted on 01/07/2005 7:03:07 AM PST by joylyn
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To: pissant

Where's the Boxer Rebellion on this??? Where's Jesse Shakedown Jackson??? Where's John Conyers??? Where are the rest of the PEST-infected maggots??? Oh, wait, I know!! This is vote-fraud that goes in FAVOR of the dem-lib-socialists!! Un-freakin'-believable!!!!


23 posted on 01/07/2005 7:03:20 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: sierrahome; woodb01; VRWCisme; Twinkie
Actually, there are several apparent Republican Dino Rossi votes by the dead. Just trying to be accurate about this.

In the end, it doesn't matter whom they voted for, just that there are illegal votes that should be thrown out. If enough of them can be found such that the 129 vote "victory" margin can be called into question, the election should be thrown out. So far, it appears there are hundreds - if not thousands - of dead, felon, and double voters in this election.

24 posted on 01/07/2005 7:04:55 AM PST by SW6906
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To: SW6906
You make an excellent point and any amount of cheating is abhorrent.
25 posted on 01/07/2005 7:09:56 AM PST by sierrahome ( Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular?)
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To: Seattle Conservative

LOL


26 posted on 01/07/2005 7:10:09 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Could someone tell me how to set up a tagline? Any help is appreciated. Thanks)
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To: pissant
The state Health Department sends out lists of the deceased "every two to three months," not every month as the law states,...

Of course, they don't believe they must follow the law...

27 posted on 01/07/2005 7:11:00 AM PST by pageonetoo (I could name them, but you'll spot their posts soon enough.)
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To: pissant

The demon-crats have lost their minds. Their shenanigans in the senate yesterday and this article make it quite clear that the demon-crats really don't want free and fair elections. King County has systematically, and criminally I might add, used or allowed voter fraud to change the result of the Governor's race in this last election.Suppress the military vote, encourage the dead to vote, buy booze and drugs to get the homeless to vote, and please allow convicted felons to vote because we are after all a democracy. We have a fascist party in the making, if history serves as my guide.


30 posted on 01/07/2005 7:13:00 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Twinkie

This time we may actually nail these voting cadavers!


31 posted on 01/07/2005 7:18:23 AM PST by pissant
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To: Polyxene

"Where's the Boxer Rebellion on this??? "

We won't hold our breath!


32 posted on 01/07/2005 7:19:03 AM PST by pissant
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To: conservativecorner

But the reward is that they are busted this time. Let's hope the republicans in Washington State stock up on Neuticals!


33 posted on 01/07/2005 7:20:49 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant; Publius; Baynative
And don't you just love THIS HEADLINE!
34 posted on 01/07/2005 7:24:59 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: pissant; Congressman Billybob
Huennekens said Anna Courneya voted using her husband's ballot, and because she didn't cast a separate one, that ballot was valid.

But this same (democrat) chief of electors claims that there was no fraud..... ANd the democrat spokesman said "this was themost examined" election in the state's history.

Most examined?

Right. Most cases of fraud found, and every one of them deliberately ignored (not corrected) by the democrat press!

35 posted on 01/07/2005 7:31:59 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: pissant

Washington needs a re-vote


36 posted on 01/07/2005 7:32:00 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: SW6906
Actually, there are several apparent Republican Dino Rossi votes by the dead. Just trying to be accurate about this.

Actually, this story only identifies one preference, that being, naturally, a cheating Republican!!!!. All others were not identified, and those usually tugged at our heartstrings.

More G'Damn media bias. I assume the Seattle P-I is in the Dems pocket.

37 posted on 01/07/2005 7:34:36 AM PST by chiller (DONE: Gore, taxes, terrorism,Kerry, Old Media. TO DO: Judges, Tort, IRS, Soc.Sec.,borders..)
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To: anniegetyourgun
Don't you just love our Seattle media? In that article and another they ran today, they take great pains to provide - and prominently display - examples of dead votes for Rossi, but none for Gregoire. Then, they fail to point out that it doesn't matter whom they voted for, just that there are illegitimate votes that when added up and thrown out, Chrissies margin shrinks to nil.
38 posted on 01/07/2005 7:34:59 AM PST by SW6906
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To: anniegetyourgun

Again, just as in the P-I story, ONLY a Republican was idenified as having cast a dead ballot. Probabilities from King Co. are that most dead votes were Dems. I assume the Times is also in the pocket of the Dems.


39 posted on 01/07/2005 7:39:33 AM PST by chiller (DONE: Gore, taxes, terrorism,Kerry, Old Media. TO DO: Judges, Tort, IRS, Soc.Sec.,borders..)
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To: pissant

And the plot sickens!


40 posted on 01/07/2005 7:40:53 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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