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Enough 'morality' lectures, Thanks (Anti-Christian Barf Alert)
MSN ^ | 11 Jan 2005 | Eric Alterman

Posted on 01/11/2005 5:51:29 PM PST by Grig

I am really tired of the implicit assumption in almost all MSM reporting that “evangelicals” and other (non-Moslem, of course) religious fundamentalists are more “moral” than the rest of us. Since when did we secularists (religious and otherwise) cede the definition of morality to them? If you ask me, it’s pretty damn “immoral” to discriminate against gays and working women, or to force a thirteen year old girl who has been raped by her father to give birth to that child. What’s more, I don’t find a literal reading of the Bible, particularly the Old Testament, to be a very useful moral guide. Is slavery really so terrific? Is it right to stone someone to death because they gather sticks on the Sabbath? Well, it’s there in black and white.

In any case, we don’t have to settle that one now, because the fact is that people who profess to teach us this kind of strict morality we should be practicing don’t really practice it themselves. I don’t mean merely Bill Bennett, Bill O’Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingriich, Jimmy Swaggart, Henry Hyde, etc. I mean all of ‘em—or at least most of ‘em. (And just so there’s no mistake, I don’t mind if people want to gamble, fornicate and get high on their own time. Just shut up about the rest of us, please.) Anyway, don’t take my word for it. The following is borrowed from an article by Ronald J. Sider, professor of theology, holistic ministry, and public policy and director of the Sider Center on Ministry and Public Policy at Eastern Baptist Theological Seminary...

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


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To: Grig

When was this written? 40 years ago???


21 posted on 01/11/2005 7:09:49 PM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: conservativecorner
The stupid jackass is using material from the last 40 years like he has some new insight. We have heard all this BS before, and this time around we ain't buying. Fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice, and shame on me. Go crawl back into your hole Eric The Un-insightful.

I agree. Instead of putting a "Barf Alert" on this, they should have put a "Yawn Alert" on it. Same old BS. Hardly worth responding to, hardly even worth posting.

22 posted on 01/11/2005 7:17:06 PM PST by NurdlyPeon (Wearing My 'Jammies Proudly)
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To: mlc9852

Yes, you are right. I do have respect for those people living out their faith. It's not Christianity that I am critical of, and niether is the author of this article. What he is upset about is those who feel they have a corner on the market of morality, or that their brand of religion is more 'moral" and that people who actually practice what they preach are moral.


23 posted on 01/11/2005 7:23:07 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Support our troops!)
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To: Grig

Secularists love it when they see a Christian fall. They delight in rubbing our noses in it and taunting us.

They don't understand that we all acknowledge that we're flawed humans. Christians have no corner on the morality market... We just know the rules and keep trying to improve.


24 posted on 01/11/2005 8:17:29 PM PST by Humidston (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1282122/posts - Blood on the Potomac!)
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To: BlessedByLiberty

Christianphobic....

Now I love that word...

Excellennnnnt! /monte burns voice off

The left loves to toss "phobic" around when ever they can, I think I'm going to start having to use "christianphobic" around them to rile up some feathers, heh


25 posted on 01/11/2005 9:03:13 PM PST by esoxmagnum
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To: Jokelahoma

The worst of the leftists like rebelliousness, even, or especially, if they're of the milquetoast ilk themselves. They defend filth like Mumia b/c they like the idea of Mumias.


26 posted on 01/11/2005 9:17:29 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: Grig

INTREP


27 posted on 01/11/2005 10:26:39 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Secularization of America is happening)
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To: Servant of the 9
THE SECULAR TALIBAN STRIKES AGAIN.

"Go get 'em Eric. Now, who will I inspire next to ridicule Christians?"

28 posted on 01/11/2005 11:22:20 PM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
An accurate critique of today's Christianity...

No, it's not. Christ loves you and died for you, and would be immensely pleased for you to accept that gift. That's Christianity. It's not about people. It's about Christ.

MM

29 posted on 01/11/2005 11:33:10 PM PST by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Well, when it comes to positions on abortion, special rights for homosexuals, personal responsibility, the dems don't appear to want to be "moral".


30 posted on 01/12/2005 1:29:10 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: MississippiMan

AMEN!


31 posted on 01/12/2005 1:29:40 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Good post--And I concur. I like the reversal in telling
the godless(secularists) I believe in the Big Bang theory
of Creation.God said Let there be light-- and BANG --It was good.


32 posted on 01/12/2005 4:55:09 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: Humidston
They don't understand that we all acknowledge that we're flawed humans. Christians have no corner on the morality market... We just know the rules and keep trying to improve.

************

Beautifully concise, perfectly clear.

33 posted on 01/12/2005 5:06:06 AM PST by trisham
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To: BlessedByLiberty

The problem seems to be one of Liberalism if the thought of raping a 13 year old daughter comes so readily to their minds.


34 posted on 01/12/2005 9:21:45 AM PST by muawiyah (Egypt didn't invent civilization time)
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