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Why Liberals Love Gun Control
MichNews.com ^ | 11 January, 2005 | Justin Darr

Posted on 01/12/2005 10:59:37 AM PST by MtnClimber

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To: Joe Brower

You're spot on with your observations. We must be ever diligent to look at the whole picture when it comes to the gun grabbers!


41 posted on 01/12/2005 2:00:32 PM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: javachip

**Sorry to nitpick, ***


I am very much aware that true assault rifles and machine guns have been banned or taxed out of existance since 1934.

Gun owners are their own worst enemy.
when the banners wanted to ban only handguns Gun owners took them at their word.
Many magazines and periodicals of the late 1970's and 1980's called their military style rifles ASSAULT RIFLES. Guns and Ammo mag produced several magazines by that name, and other magazines followed till Pat Purdy cut loose in a school yard with one.
Only then did the gun owners begin to call them SEMI-auto assault style rifles or MILITARY style semi auto sporting rifles.
By then the Hounds of Hell had gotten on the scent and any firearm that holds too many rounds is either an assault rifle or assault pistol.
The current rage is the "evil .50 cal sniping rifle, the choice of criminals!"


42 posted on 01/12/2005 3:38:45 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Pity the poor athiest. He has no one to put the blame on.)
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To: Joe Brower

Thanks for the clue, good catch!


43 posted on 01/12/2005 3:49:44 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: erikm88
Case in point, one of the Columbine shooters used a TEC-9, a gun, at the time was completely banned nationwide.

??????????????????????

Was not aware that the TEC-9 was ever banned nationwide!

44 posted on 01/12/2005 5:00:01 PM PST by T Wayne
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To: MtnClimber
"The goal of gun control is not to actually control guns and make the world a safer place, but to control people. It is not as important for you can pass a criminal background check so much as it is that you feel obligated to ask the state for permission to buy a gun. Liberals know gun control laws will not stop criminals, but it will erode the sense of independence and self reliance of regular people until they feel that they can do nothing that does not meet government approval."

I actually think there's a more insidious purpose. When a politician continually engages in passes laws that evince a a train of abuse evincing a desire to despotism, it's a lot easier not to suffer the consequences if the population is unarmed.

45 posted on 01/12/2005 5:03:52 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: munchtipq
Read what you just wrote. Then ask yourself why you are a "liberal"?

Personal responsability, and accountability for one's own actions are the antithesis of a liberal's mindset. (shaking head, blinking, and rolling eyes).

46 posted on 01/12/2005 5:19:59 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: stevio
Because liberals are lemmings.

You nailed it Sir.

Mindless dolts who do not understand simple economics of supply and demand.

Waiting for handouts from the Federal and State governments for excuses as to why they are too lazy to go to work.

Liberals do not understand that some of us who go to work, supply goods and services, paying TAXES are the ones who support their lazy mentality.

It would be a miracle if the Libs ever bothered to look at their 1040 tax return. Then again, most probably can't... Nevermind.

Pathetic. /rant

47 posted on 01/12/2005 5:28:33 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: munchtipq
"I was just trying to figure out how gun control became associated with liberalism at all."

It's because what has become known as "liberalism" in America is really fascism in drag. Those we call "liberal" absolutely worship power, especially when it is vested in a dictator.

They worship Castro, because he seized power.

They crave positions of power in Government and don't care how silly they look trying to acquire it. (John Kerry?)

And they want the government to have ever more power, after they control government.

"Liberalism," today, is about as far from the dictionary definition as it is possible to get.

48 posted on 01/12/2005 5:59:26 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: kellynla
Marine Corps gun control "One shot, one kill"

M249 (SAW) gun control: One Shot, One Kill....again and again and again and again.....

49 posted on 01/12/2005 8:33:31 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: munchtipq

Liberals are whores for votes. They will do anything to get elected, including backing things they might not believe themselves.

They try to use gun control like the abortion issue to swing voters their way.


50 posted on 01/12/2005 8:40:42 PM PST by TheLion
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To: T Wayne
Case in point, one of the Columbine shooters used a TEC-9, a gun, at the time was completely banned nationwide.

TEC-9 was never banned nationwide. Such a move would have to include confiscatory actions by federal authorities. Where has this happened and executed by the feds? The TEC-9 vanished and came back as another derivative with a new name, but the company eventually just went belly up. It was an inaccurate POS and the market is better off without it, however, please do not think that I believe that the Gov't or the antis should have forced it out of business. Market factors should control.

51 posted on 01/12/2005 8:50:46 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: munchtipq

Strange, gun control seems to dovetail into libiralism quite nicely. It's part of "The government will do everything for everybody" idiocy that is the platform of the Democrat Party.

The gov't will take care of:

The folks who cannot support themselves, though good people and churches have done this willingly for centuries.

Protection of self, loved ones and property, though the gov't cannot be held liable for not protecting you, your loved ones and your property.

Your money, because the citizens, er...subjects don't know what's best for them, and the gov't does, though same gov't has proved time and again nothing but very inefficient money management.


52 posted on 01/12/2005 10:15:05 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (What's you point? ><BCC>)
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To: munchtipq
It's even more baffling when you frame the argument along the lines of "choice", the poster child of the left. How often have they been presented with that side--that it should be left to the individual to choose to defend his body from harm by having the means with which to do so?

In that context, the leftist anti-gunners are anti-choice, and you'd think that they more they are shown that that they'd would at least stop to reconsider their position.

53 posted on 01/13/2005 4:12:38 AM PST by Simo Hayha
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To: TheLion
They try to use gun control like the abortion issue to swing voters their way.

We should use the issue of choice when the subject of gun control comes up; as the left uses "choice" to defend abortion on demand, we need to use choice to defend the proposition that everyone has the unalienable right to defend their body from harm.

54 posted on 01/13/2005 4:16:57 AM PST by Simo Hayha
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To: javachip
Sorry to nitpick...

Assault rifles do not exist, except in the minds of the media, hollywood, and rather stupid "represenatives". All of these weapons are classified as "small arms". As such, they are insignificant in the scheme of things, or should be.

Now to get really nitpicky, even crew served weapons belong in the hands of the citizen. Even as late as the Civil War, cannons were purchased by civic organizations and donated to the military units that were formed around local gentlemen who formed units.

55 posted on 01/13/2005 9:48:02 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Simo Hayha
"We should use the issue of choice when the subject of gun control comes up

Excellent idea!

56 posted on 01/13/2005 1:46:13 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Great post; I loved it so much I added it to my profile page. It's good for us all to remember the end result of gun control.


57 posted on 01/14/2005 11:57:37 AM PST by Altamira (Get the UN out of the US, and the US out of the UN!)
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To: MtnClimber

The comments people are making on this thread are almost all accurate, but they're probably giving "Lieberals" too much credit for intelligence.

There are two categories of gun-grabbers: the ones who are just whining babies who are afraid of guns, and the ones who are not, but actually have some sort of anti-gun "position", however contrived.

The former category often can spout any manner of propaganda about why guns should be banned, but the reality of it is that they're just scared little children who want their mommy (i.e. The Government) to protect them. Their arguments are all just props and support framework for a viscerally driven position. I have a hunch that most supposed "Lieberals" fall into this category.

The latter category does have sinister, or merely stupid, "reasons" for wanting to ban guns - but I'm just making a case for "never attribute to conspiracy, that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."


58 posted on 01/14/2005 10:33:37 PM PST by fire_eye (Demonrats don't have a monopoly on stupidity - but they're working on it...)
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