Here, I'll share!
Posted on 01/14/2005 7:57:27 AM PST by madprof98
Woo hoo! I've made the big time. Last month, the website Free Republic featured a thread about my Nov. 18 column, "Queers Who Don't Act Right." You probably don't know much about Free Republic unless you are a right-wing lunatic. Free Republic is so far right that wing-nut gay muckraker Matt Drudge and Lucianne Goldberg, one of the architects of the Clinton-Monica Lewinsky brouhaha, both left the site in 1999 because it was too extreme, even for them.
In the years since, the site has become the contemporary version of a marathon meeting of the old John Birch Society and the KKK. Most recently, Free Republic was in the news when John Corsi, one of the Swift Boat Veterans who authored a book attacking John Kerry, turned out to post embarrassingly racist messages there. (Of course, he argued his racist insults were all "a joke." Talk about your Clintonian rhetoric.) The site also was in the news recently because someone correctly posted that Dan Rather had relied on phony documents to impute President Bush's National Guard service.
Free Republic is so extreme that it's a blast to read. Don't bother to explore the site with the idea of posting an alternative perspective or to correct facts. Your post will simply be deleted, despite its owner's celebration of freedom of speech. The site has no hesitation in reprinting copyrighted material, like my column, even though the Washington Post and Los Angeles Times both successfully sued to stop such theft. In other words, as is generally true of the lunatic far right, the truth, free speech and the law only matter when they support their point of view.
Of course, Freepers, as the creepy wing-nuts on the site are called, were not alone in being outraged by my column. I received quite a lot of mail, mainly from other gay people, questioning my argument that LA Fitness at Ansley Mall overreacted when it closed its sauna because of some occasional sex and reopened it with a new picture window overlooking the locker room. As an update, I might add that the window has effectively eliminated unseen sexual interactions inside the sauna and made room for another, more open form of sex between people on either side of the window: exhibitionism and voyeurism.
Most of my correspondents argued that the occasional discovery of sex in the sauna merited involvement by the police and the health department, reconstruction of the sauna and a report by one of the local TV stations. And, as usual, they concluded that because I called that overreacting, I must favor sex in public spaces. No matter that I said I find the behavior annoying. To be righteous, I must find it -- what? -- criminally actionable.
I wasn't surprised by the reaction. Sex troubles people more than anything. That's why Clinton was impeached for lying about a blowjob, while Bush was re-elected despite lying about a war that has killed thousands. Gay people's oppression is the result of their sex lives, so it's not surprising that they are hypersensitive to anything that might add to the picture of deviance. But it has become obvious that the very effort to make all deviance disappear and to assimilate -- to marry, for example -- increases prejudice.
The Freepers, of course, took outrage over my column to dizzy heights, fabricating arguments I did not make. This began with the man who posted it, "madpro98." He said that I dismissed "all sexual conventions, including common decency, as so much homophobia." Actually, I wrote no such thing. Then, of course, the Freepers concluded that the case of LA Fitness means every gay man is a sauna whore. For example, "Sender" writes: "Does anyone else think it's strange that gay men often have sex in a public toilet stall? ... Even if we had unisex public restrooms, somehow I can't imagine a man and a woman eyeing one another while washing their hands, then just jumping in the stall for a go."
The writer obviously has never been to Buckhead on a Saturday night. But what cracks me up is that the Freepers are so anxious to bash someone like me that they don't even realize when they are supporting a contrary argument. For example, "buffyt" quoted my statement that I don't like "stumbling upon any sex scene to which I have not been invited." Then she riffed obsessively about heterosexual couples at Mardi Gras "coupling all over the place" while the police ignore them. Exactly. Heterosexuals spoil the view with public sexual interactions every bit as much as homosexuals, arguably more, when they can find a place to do it. Nobody followed up on that post, of course.
I'm not going to quote the mind-boggling illogics and endless sophomoric fag-bashing (despite arguing they aren't homophobic). But I will thank "Jack Black," who wrote: "I think this was very well written. He is writing for the audience of radical homosexuals as one, so I have trouble twisting my thoughts enough to get to his point of view, but I still think the writing is good." Kiss me, dude!
Cliff Bostock holds a Ph.D. in depth psychology. Write him at cliff.bostock@ creativeloafing.com.
BWWWAAAAAAAAAHAHA!!!!!!
I think that "depth psychology" is probably right up there with "music therapy." What a joke.
Here, I'll share!
"FR loves free speach, and alternative viewpoits are welcome here if they are discussed inteligently. "
Actually, I haven't found this to be true. Dissenting viewpoints are not warmly welcomed, even when they raise intelligent points, (particularly about controversial issues) and I've been harrassed via freepmail by some particularly nasty people here on FR. And the admin mods seem to turn a blind eye to it, even when you complain.
Congratulations! I've never noticed that FR was particularly right-wing. After all, many people here don't agree with me!
damn straight...like folks who publicly admit they voted for both Mondale and Dukakis.
;>)
This website celebrates the Constitution, not just one sentence of it. The First Amendment also allows freedom of association - but I don't expect a gay dude to understand that concept, given that gays tried to force their way into the Boy Scouts.
In his case I believe it's a pineapple, or it should be
Welcome to FR!
Whatever happened to good ol' counseling and prozac?
"Dan Rather had relied on phony documents to impute President Bush's National Guard service."
Looks this fellow does not now the difference between impute and impugn.
If I could communicate to my college self I'd tell the younger me to to save all that dough on college, party down while you're young, buy some stock in that Microsoft outfit, and be a plumber.
Great tagline!
Right on the money!
But see, they want us to kill ourselves to make sure they can do that without any negative consequences of any kind. Just like the abortion crowd.
Welcome to the fold, ACanadian... When ya gonna flee that socialist antigun stronghold? It's at least a *little* better over here in the US but there are pockets of rampant liberalism as you can tell by the red/blue state map.
Like any place where opinions run free, we do have our share of "nasty" people. I have a list of people I avoid; I think we all do.
You'll also figure out in time which thread topics to avoid. Some of these people have tunnel vision when it comes to their pet issues.
Find the fun people and hang with them. It's a hoot.
this clown is a fool....
It's an oldie but a goodie...
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