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FAMILY OF 4 SLAUGHTERED
New York Post ^ | 1/15/2004 | Lorena Mongelli

Posted on 01/15/2005 4:27:27 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak

A family of Christians who fled persecution in Egypt ran into a bloody nightmare in Jersey City - where the husband, wife and their two daughters were found knifed to death in their home yesterday.

The bodies of Hossam Armanious, 46, his wife, Amal Garas, and their two youg daughters - Sylvia, 15, and Monica, 8 - were found gagged with their throats slit at 4 a.m. yesterday inside the green, two-story, wood-frame home they moved into five years ago.

Investigators were struggling to figure out who could have slaughtered the religiously devout family.

Jersey City Police Chief Robert Troy Said police are leaning toward the suspects being at least an aquaintance, after finding no sign of break-in.

"I don't believe it was random," he said. "They probably knew their killers."

'snip'

Rafique Iscandar, 51, who described himself as Armanious' best friend, said his pal also came (to America) because of the pressure of being Christian in the Muslim Egypt.

"They were afraid there," Iscandar said. "They are under siege by the government. We lived in fear."

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: 21stcenturycrusades; antichristian; armanious; christianbashing; christianity; christians; civilrights; convertbythesword; coptic; crime; culturewar; egypt; ethniccleansing; hatecrime; immigrants; infidel; islam; islaminamerica; jerseycity; jihad; jihadinamerica; koranimals; murder; muslims; nationalsecurity; newjersey; nj; persecution; refugees; religion; religionofpeace; religionofpeacetm; religionofpieces; religiousfreedom; religiousintolerance; religiouspersecution; terrorism; trop; waronterror; waronterrorism
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1 posted on 01/15/2005 4:27:27 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Sounds like an episode from Law & Order.


2 posted on 01/15/2005 4:29:30 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Round up the usual suspects...


3 posted on 01/15/2005 4:29:48 PM PST by null and void (I refuse to live my life as if someone, somewhere will be offended if I laugh...)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

What a hideous tragedy.


4 posted on 01/15/2005 4:30:26 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Isn't death the prescribed sentence for leaving islam? I wonder if these people were always Christian or were once muslims.


5 posted on 01/15/2005 4:30:59 PM PST by umgud
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To: umgud

I doubt the their former iman would have been able to afford a ticket to the US in order to pursue them.


7 posted on 01/15/2005 4:32:02 PM PST by Axlrose
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To: umgud

I am not sure, but Jersey City is a heavily Muslim place.


8 posted on 01/15/2005 4:32:37 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Lover
Well DUH! The Jooooooooooooooooooooooos! It's always the Jooooooooooooooos! Does this really need a < /sarcasm> tag?
9 posted on 01/15/2005 4:33:05 PM PST by null and void (I refuse to live my life as if someone, somewhere will be offended if I laugh...)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

In jersey, it only takes a phone call.


10 posted on 01/15/2005 4:33:43 PM PST by pipecorp (I am, therefore, I think... At least I think I think, maybe I thought I think, or I think I thought.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Where is the ACLU when you need them? /sarcasm


11 posted on 01/15/2005 4:34:35 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: Bahbah

The Coptic Egyptians have been more heinously persecuted than any other religion in history. If this poor family were Coptic, it would be no big deal to the entire Arab world.


13 posted on 01/15/2005 4:36:20 PM PST by ishabibble
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To: umgud
Isn't death the prescribed sentence for leaving islam? I wonder if these people were always Christian or were once muslims.

That was my first thought. Hotel Islam --- you can check in but you can never check out.

14 posted on 01/15/2005 4:38:14 PM PST by FITZ
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
TROP® no doubt.
15 posted on 01/15/2005 4:38:47 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Coleus

Some additional info regarding Jersey City murders.


16 posted on 01/15/2005 4:40:00 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: DTogo

I saw one similar to that.


17 posted on 01/15/2005 4:40:29 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
"Iscandar said Armanious even joined with him in an effort to better the lives of his fellow Christians back in Luxor by working with a human-rights organization called the American Coptic Union."

This may have had something to do with it - The method of execution certainly points in a certain direction. Definitely not your typical Jersey City Home Invasion/murder

18 posted on 01/15/2005 4:41:44 PM PST by drt1
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

The only thing I want to say is the Islamofascist better keep this S**t out of the U.S. We are a sovereign country and their Cult of Death is not above the LAW here.


19 posted on 01/15/2005 4:43:17 PM PST by marty60
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To: Lover

What are you meaning to say?


20 posted on 01/15/2005 4:43:31 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Proud Patriots dot ORG!!! Operation Valentine's Day!!)
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To: Lover
You mean the Christian victims are on your list of possibilities?

Welcome to FR.....I think....

21 posted on 01/15/2005 4:44:21 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Daughters (from NY Daily News):


Monica,8


Sylvia, 16

22 posted on 01/15/2005 4:45:01 PM PST by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: ishabibble

See post #18. This may actually have something to do with their religious beliefs. Even more ugly, if that's possible.


23 posted on 01/15/2005 4:45:06 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: umgud

That's what I am thinking too -- they used to be Muslims and ran screaming, but to no avail. Plus, the MO sounds an awful lot like 'beheading.' To me.


24 posted on 01/15/2005 4:45:57 PM PST by bboop
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To: anniegetyourgun

hummmm...


25 posted on 01/15/2005 4:46:04 PM PST by Gewittermädchen (The best minds are not in government...Ronald Reagan)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Tapping my toes, impatiently......


26 posted on 01/15/2005 4:46:30 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Proud Patriots dot ORG!!! Operation Valentine's Day!!)
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To: Lover
Religious fanatics? But which group...

Let me make a guess here...

Iscandar said Armanious even joined with him in an effort to better the lives of his fellow Christians back in Luxor by working with a human-rights organization called the American Coptic Union.

I think we can cross "Coptic", "Christians" and believers in "human rights" off the suspect list.

A heinous scene... slaughtered in separate rooms... their faces were contorted in a way that indicated they put up a fierce struggle.

Hmmm.

Does there come to mind any other religious group in Egypt (or America) that revels binding it's victims and joyously cutting their infidel throats while they squirm in helpless agony?

27 posted on 01/15/2005 4:47:00 PM PST by Gritty ("Hair-raising screams will be squeezed from the lungs of the non-believers"-killer of Theo VanGogh)
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To: Brad's Gramma

ditto


28 posted on 01/15/2005 4:47:28 PM PST by Gewittermädchen (The best minds are not in government...Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lover

"Their throats were cut, they were not beheaded." The stewardesses on the hijacked flight's throats were cut, too. It is just the default mode of beheading, when you haven't enough time or your blade isn't blessed at the mosque. Oh, excuse me but ... I just bet there is a link here.


29 posted on 01/15/2005 4:47:44 PM PST by bboop
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To: Gewittermädchen

Think we'll ever get a response?


30 posted on 01/15/2005 4:48:14 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Proud Patriots dot ORG!!! Operation Valentine's Day!!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

ditto


31 posted on 01/15/2005 4:48:37 PM PST by Gewittermädchen (The best minds are not in government...Ronald Reagan)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Altogether too many of these passing through FR these days....


32 posted on 01/15/2005 4:49:06 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Gewittermädchen

Um...probably, but not a coherent one...


33 posted on 01/15/2005 4:49:22 PM PST by Gewittermädchen (The best minds are not in government...Ronald Reagan)
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To: drt1

BTTT - I should have included that in the excerpt.


34 posted on 01/15/2005 4:49:36 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Yep, Annie, I've noticed.


35 posted on 01/15/2005 4:49:59 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Proud Patriots dot ORG!!! Operation Valentine's Day!!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

oops, posted to myself, sorry!


36 posted on 01/15/2005 4:51:06 PM PST by Gewittermädchen (The best minds are not in government...Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lover; MeekOneGOP
"Religious fanatics? But which group..."

They are watching you..... Oh, and Welcome to FR!!

37 posted on 01/15/2005 4:51:54 PM PST by KoRn
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To: Gewittermädchen

Huh. Wait till you ACCIDENTLY post what you meant to be a private FRmail, to the forum!

Whoooooooo boy, that'll hurt.

Welcome aboard, BTW!!!


38 posted on 01/15/2005 4:52:02 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Proud Patriots dot ORG!!! Operation Valentine's Day!!)
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To: KoRn

EXCELLENT!


39 posted on 01/15/2005 4:52:35 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Proud Patriots dot ORG!!! Operation Valentine's Day!!)
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To: Lover

Lover....?


40 posted on 01/15/2005 4:52:51 PM PST by Gewittermädchen (The best minds are not in government...Ronald Reagan)
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To: Brad's Gramma

/tips hat

:-)


41 posted on 01/15/2005 4:53:35 PM PST by KoRn
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To: KoRn

Blushes and curtsies. :)


42 posted on 01/15/2005 4:54:00 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Proud Patriots dot ORG!!! Operation Valentine's Day!!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Thanks,I needed that! I'll be more careful in the future.


43 posted on 01/15/2005 4:54:10 PM PST by Gewittermädchen (The best minds are not in government...Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lover; null and void; Brad's Gramma
nully: Round up the usual suspects...

Lover: Religious fanatics? But which group...

Brad's Gramma: What are you meaning to say?

Yes, lover, 'splain yourself to us "simple" folks. We're all ears.

44 posted on 01/15/2005 4:54:29 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: ishabibble
Coptic is the same as the word as Egyptian... In their old language, by the way.

And, yes the Orthodox Christian Coptics are persecuted as are ALL Christians in Egypt including Protestants and Roman Catholic

At my Church, there was a nurse, who was also a missionary Baptist aide worker. She told us some really sad persecution stories from her brief time in that country.

I really think some muslim did these awful murders. Maybe even came all the way to the USA to do the deed.

The article mentioned the family worked to help to better the lives of fellow Christians back in Luxor, Egypt.

45 posted on 01/15/2005 4:54:32 PM PST by Lion in Winter (I ain't no pussy cat... don't mess with me... ya hear! GRRRRRRrrr)
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How sad...and scary.

May this Christian family rest in peace.


47 posted on 01/15/2005 4:56:44 PM PST by LisaMalia
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

I would be interested in when the family converted over to Christianity because if it had been recently, I would suspect other family members. My wife works with a young woman who is a Christian who emmigrated from Egypt but her family apparently has little fear about going back to Egypt and still owns property there.


48 posted on 01/15/2005 4:57:12 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Lover; Brad's Gramma; anniegetyourgun
Where did you go, Lover??

Come back and let's talk. I'd be interested to know your take on this.

If you're a follower of Mohammed (may it rain pig pee on his filthy head), you might enlighten us as to why this happened.

49 posted on 01/15/2005 4:57:19 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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