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CIA gives grim warning on European prospects
Scotsman ^ | 01/16/05 | NICHOLAS CHRISTIAN

Posted on 01/16/2005 8:38:31 AM PST by Pikamax

CIA gives grim warning on European prospects

NICHOLAS CHRISTIAN

THE CIA has predicted that the European Union will break-up within 15 years unless it radically reforms its ailing welfare systems.

The report by the intelligence agency, which forecasts how the world will look in 2020, warns that Europe could be dragged into economic decline by its ageing population. It also predicts the end of Nato and post-1945 military alliances.

In a devastating indictment of EU economic prospects, the report warns: "The current EU welfare state is unsustainable and the lack of any economic revitalisation could lead to the splintering or, at worst, disintegration of the EU, undermining its ambitions to play a heavyweight international role."

It adds that the EU’s economic growth rate is dragged down by Germany and its restrictive labour laws. Reforms there - and in France and Italy to lesser extents - remain key to whether the EU as a whole can break out of its "slow-growth pattern".

Reflecting growing fears in the US that the pain of any proper reform would be too much to bear, the report adds that the experts it consulted "are dubious that the present political leadership is prepared to make even this partial break, believing a looming budgetary crisis in the next five years would be the more likely trigger for reform".

The EU is also set for a looming demographic crisis because of a drop in birth rates and increased longevity, with devastating economic consequences.

The report says: "Either European countries adapt their workforces, reform their social welfare, education and tax systems, and accommodate growing immigrant populations [chiefly from Muslim countries] or they face a period of protracted economic stasis."

As a result of the increased immigration needed, the report predicts that Europe’s Muslim population is set to increase from around 13% today to between 22% and 37% of the population by 2025, potentially triggering tensions.

The report predicts that America’s relationships with Europe will be "dramatically altered" over the next 15 years, in a move away from post-Second World War institutions. Nato could disappear and be replaced by increased EU action.

"The EU, rather than Nato, will increasingly become the primary institution for Europe, and the role Europeans shape for themselves on the world stage is most likely to be projected through it," the report adds. "Whether the EU will develop an army is an open question."

Defence spending by individual European countries, including the UK, France, and Germany, is likely to fall further behind China and other countries over the next 15 years. Collectively these countries will outspend all others except the US and possibly China.

The expected next technological revolution will involve the convergence of nano, bio, information and materials technology and will further bolster China and India’s prospects, the study predicts. Both countries are investing in basic research in these fields and are well placed to be leaders. But whereas the US will retain its overall lead, the report warns "Europe risks slipping behind Asia in some of these technologies".

For Europe, an increasing preference for natural gas may reinforce regional relationships, such as those with Russia or North Africa, given the inter-dependence of pipeline delivery, the report argues. But this means the EU will have to deal with Russia, which the report also warns "faces a severe demographic crisis resulting from low birth rates, poor medical care and a potentially explosive Aids situation".

Russia also borders an "unstable region" in the Caucasus and Central Asia, "the effects of which - Muslim extremism, terrorism and endemic conflict - are likely to continue spilling over into Russia".

The report also largely en dorses forecasts that by 2020 China’s gross domestic product will exceed that of individual western economic powers except for the US. India’s GDP will have overtaken or be overtaking European economies.

Because of the sheer size of China’s and India’s populations their standard of living need not approach European and western levels to become important economic powers.

The economies of other developing countries, such as Brazil, could surpass all but the largest European countries by 2020.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eu; europe; fifthcolumn; islam; muslims; nato
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To: John_Wheatley

are you Irish?


101 posted on 01/16/2005 12:03:43 PM PST by americanbychoice2
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To: John_Wheatley

scottish, welsh?


103 posted on 01/16/2005 12:06:20 PM PST by americanbychoice2
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To: John_Wheatley

celtic or rangers?


105 posted on 01/16/2005 12:08:49 PM PST by americanbychoice2
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To: John_Wheatley
Hey, I got it back in Post 94


106 posted on 01/16/2005 12:10:14 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Uncle Fud
but the metaphor ("drunken sailors on shore leave") is of course very unfair to drunken sailors, who spend only their own money.

Very true, what was I thinking? (he asks while slapping hand on forehead) Drunken sailors are far more fiscally responsible than most politicians.

107 posted on 01/16/2005 12:10:27 PM PST by epow
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To: John_Wheatley
"In fact everyone on here seems to hate Europe..."

I can see why anyone reading some of the threads on here might think that, however, I don't think it's true at all. We tend to throw out general angry statements after reading the latest insult from euro media or govt. We don't mean to include all of you in those diatribes, just the lefties in media and govt. And we are just as hard on our native leftists, if not harder.

109 posted on 01/16/2005 12:11:57 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: John_Wheatley

i used to play for Kaiserslautern, thus it's my team.


111 posted on 01/16/2005 12:13:01 PM PST by americanbychoice2
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To: John_Wheatley

Nice legs!


112 posted on 01/16/2005 12:13:23 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: starfish923

You are perhaps young to understand how the CIA works but one thing to learn is that the CIA is enormous in size with a classified budget.

Put it this way, the CIA budget is what ever it needs to be to meet its missions, whatever it takes, the sky's the limit. One of those mission tasks is certainly to find and monitor Usama Bin Laden and his network.

Among several other thousands of tasks are the need to forecast tensions in Europe, a continent with a history of military eruption caused by ethnic and cultural differences. This article clearly points out that Europe's changing demographics may give rise to a significant Muslim presence, and this portends conflict of cultures. This is nothing that Europe hasn't seen before as they have weathered and resisted the penetration of Islam throughout their history.

This article points out that Europeans must make it possible for young European people to believe they have a future, enough so that they will want to have families. The alternative is Islamic immigration and subsequent war and terrorism.


113 posted on 01/16/2005 12:14:45 PM PST by Hostage
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To: Dog Gone
"Regardless, these countries will be forced into some tough choices."

Are tough choices often voted into place by the people at large, or more often implemented by newly minted strongmen?

114 posted on 01/16/2005 12:16:14 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: John Lenin

Whatever. President Bush was in part elected because he promised to address the looming Social Security crisis. It will get done, though not necessarily with a post or two on FR. Sorry if life is too complex for you, doesn't mean that we are all doomed.


117 posted on 01/16/2005 12:21:43 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: John_Wheatley

no, I am now retired.
Played many moons ago, during Fritz Walter's days


118 posted on 01/16/2005 12:23:04 PM PST by americanbychoice2
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To: John_Wheatley

Well, it's your govt. and media that we react to. You said we hate you, and we don't.


119 posted on 01/16/2005 12:24:07 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: Dog Gone
That's weird. A CIA assessment I agree with.

Seconded. On the other hand, a five-year-old child who kept up with the news could have made these predictions five years ago. It's all glaringly obvious, and the only real imponderable is the time scale. Fifteen years? I'd say that figure probably assumes that everything will go fairly smoothly, with only the demographics and the long-term economic imbalances pulling them down, and that can't be counted on.

120 posted on 01/16/2005 12:24:26 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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