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Senate Foreign Relations hearing of Dr. Condoleezza Rice to be Sec.of State. [LIVE Thread - Day 2] (
COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS ^ | 1-18-05 | SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS

Posted on 01/18/2005 4:38:21 AM PST by OXENinFLA

Secretary of State Nomination
Part I



HEARING
before the

COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS
UNITED STATES SENATE
ONE HUNDRED NINTH CONGRESS
FIRST SESSION


Tuesday, January 18, 2005

Time: 9:00 AM - 12:00 PM
- Break -
2:00 PM - 5:00 PM

Place: 216 Hart Senate Office Building
Presiding: Senator Lugar

 
 

Nominee:
+ Dr. Condoleezza Rice
    To be Secretary of State
+ The Hearing will Commence on Tuesday, January
    18, 2005 and will Continue, If Necessary, on the

    Following Day Wednesday, January 19, 2005.
    Immediately Following the Conclusion of Hearing,
    the Chairman Will Convene a Business Meeting to
    Vote on the Nomination.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: condi; drrice; secofstate; senate
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To: Republican Red

We lived in CT for years and Dodd was our senator. He's as pickled as Kennedy; he had presidential aspirations at one time but got in trouble with women a time too many. Always in the company of Kennedy, naturally.


501 posted on 01/18/2005 8:14:40 AM PST by Peach (The grill on the hill. The Democrats are toast.)
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To: nutmeg

Oh, I see you remember that incident with Dodd. He's a piece of work.


502 posted on 01/18/2005 8:15:13 AM PST by Peach (The grill on the hill. The Democrats are toast.)
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To: SuzanneC

I know you're computer time might be limited while on this professional retreat, so look for "cyncooper" on this thread for factual reporting. Condi looks composed, lovely, and even tho the democrats stick in little insulting zingers, their questioning is relaxed, almost informal. Everyone knows she's a shoo-in.

Of course.....the democrats will remind us.. ad nausum... how cooperative they were in confirming her, when they go nasty on President Bush's judicial appointments, and social security reform.


503 posted on 01/18/2005 8:15:23 AM PST by YaYa123 (@The Senators Are In Love With The Sound Of Their Own Voices.com)
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To: cyncooper

Dodd is showing his expertise in foreign affairs...

"DUH..."


504 posted on 01/18/2005 8:15:37 AM PST by Area51
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To: Christian4Bush

Rice is terrific. Poised, informed, knowledgeable, charming.


505 posted on 01/18/2005 8:16:10 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Peach

The minute I heard Dodd say that this part of the world looks to the US for "leadership" I knew he was trolling for money, and by golly, I was right.


506 posted on 01/18/2005 8:16:10 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: Republican Red

uh...dunno. LOL. That guy is soooo metro!


507 posted on 01/18/2005 8:17:23 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: Area51

And the bloviation contiues.

It does seem that they are kinda softballing her... The Dims that is.


508 posted on 01/18/2005 8:17:42 AM PST by Danae (Coming to you LIVE from the "Peoples Republic of Portland Oregon")
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To: YaYa123

Is this a hearing for Condi or just an on-air opportunity for these guys to pontificate? LOL


509 posted on 01/18/2005 8:17:52 AM PST by CAluvdubya (From the RED part of California)
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To: Bahbah

He says Chavez wants a relationship with the US! Passing reference to "recent developments."


510 posted on 01/18/2005 8:18:05 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: eyespysomething

Is there a question in Dodd's statement somewhere?


511 posted on 01/18/2005 8:19:09 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: Bahbah

Dodd thinks we need to do something new with Venezuela rather than isolation....soon Rice will get a chance to respond.

Dodd starting to adopt a hectoring tone.

Rice: Mexico and Canada-we've made a lot of progress with them both on a number issues. Smart border initiative, first item she mentions. Allowing in commerce, not allowing in those who would harm us.


512 posted on 01/18/2005 8:19:29 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: dread78645
ok--Kerry will launch into an utterly boring verbal slide show of his recent trip to Iraq, Syria, France, and his war experience in Viet Nam. Grab the popcorn and coffee.

But will he talk about the cheese in France?

513 posted on 01/18/2005 8:19:47 AM PST by NautiNurse (Osama bin Laden has more tapes than Steely Dan)
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To: Bahbah

Just like progressive means liberal, leadership to other countries means money. And the Left complains that we have code words.


514 posted on 01/18/2005 8:19:53 AM PST by Peach (The grill on the hill. The Democrats are toast.)
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To: Bahbah

CHAVEZ is one of the biggest DANGERS facing the security of this country..IMHO! Next he will be whining about our relationship with Castro! Good Grief!


515 posted on 01/18/2005 8:19:58 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: Bahbah

So, what's the question? I lost interest in his ramblings.


516 posted on 01/18/2005 8:20:05 AM PST by jennyjenny
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To: cyncooper

I'm back. Tended to a couple of quick chores in order to hear sKerry's questions. I wonder if he'll be the one to try to skewer Condi? The other RATS are pretty subdued.


517 posted on 01/18/2005 8:20:48 AM PST by prairiebreeze (George W Bush: Spending well-earned political capital.)
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To: penelopesire

You are so correct. We will eventually have to deal with Chavez.


518 posted on 01/18/2005 8:20:51 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: yellowdoghunter

First we will have to 'deal' with the commie dems. LOL


519 posted on 01/18/2005 8:22:09 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: jennyjenny
So, what's the question?

Well, I'm not sure, but I think it was how much money can he count on to funnel to the tin pot dictators.

520 posted on 01/18/2005 8:22:18 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: Christian4Bush

Good from what I've heard. No real confrontational thing yet I think.


521 posted on 01/18/2005 8:22:18 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Bahbah
He says Chavez wants a relationship with the US

Funny, earlier in the hearing Dems pointed out our lack of response to Putin's efforts to undermine democracy. Now Dodd is talking about a relationship with Chavez who, besides winning under the most suspicious of circumstances, is attacking personal property ownership, free speech, free press, etc.?

522 posted on 01/18/2005 8:22:47 AM PST by Dolphy
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To: You Dirty Rats

"LOL -- neither PS nor any other damn dirty 'Rat is chair of ANY committee in Washington except the party caucuses."


huh...huh...oh yeah...


523 posted on 01/18/2005 8:23:09 AM PST by Johnnyboy2000 (Give it all up tommorrow to live in world without crime, and go back tothe circuit riding motocross)
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To: Peach

Ugh, I just walked in the door to hear dodd pontificating. I was immediately talking back to him!


524 posted on 01/18/2005 8:23:37 AM PST by mombonn ( íViva Bush/Cheney! Dukakis and Kerry are the matching bookends of the Bush era.)
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To: penelopesire

Chavez is a real problem.


525 posted on 01/18/2005 8:23:49 AM PST by Eva
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To: OXENinFLA

Next she addresses Central America. Notes the stratification that exists in much of that area and the struggles of indigenous peoples to find their rightful place and live decently.

Trade can play a huge part to help here.

Now speaking of S. America, Brazil in particular.


526 posted on 01/18/2005 8:23:55 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Dolphy

I wonder if any of them will ask Condi about President Bush refusing to take phone calls w/Spain's newly elected "leader"?


527 posted on 01/18/2005 8:24:58 AM PST by Carolinamom
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To: Dolphy

Right, Chavez wants a relationship with the US, an adversarial one.


528 posted on 01/18/2005 8:25:24 AM PST by Eva
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To: Dolphy

"Funny, earlier in the hearing Dems pointed out our lack of response to Putin's efforts to undermine democracy. Now Dodd is talking about a relationship with Chavez who, besides winning under the most suspicious of circumstances, is attacking personal property ownership, free speech, free press, etc.?"

Just your typical Dem Paradox...the dems are soooo transparent!


529 posted on 01/18/2005 8:25:42 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: Danae

By the time Dr Rice finishes her answers the 'esteemed' senators have no coherent comeback. She shows them up bigtime in comparison of intellectual prowess.


530 posted on 01/18/2005 8:25:49 AM PST by maica (Dems play to "MSM"...and we have learned they cannot defeat anyone.)
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To: Christian4Bush
Overall, how is Dr. Rice doing?

Comfortable, confident. Speaking clearly, she is well prepared.

None of the 'Rats have attacked her *yet*.

531 posted on 01/18/2005 8:25:58 AM PST by NautiNurse (Osama bin Laden has more tapes than Steely Dan)
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To: Dolphy

Holding leaders accountable who do not govern democratically.

Dodd was disappointed with the "paristy", corrects to "paucity" of her remarks in her opening statement to this area but she has answered him.

Asks about agreements---sooner rather than later?

Rice: We will work with Congress but would like sooner rather than later.

Dodd lauds the state dept people they met in other countries and Dodd emphasizes we must work more in this area of the world.

Rice returns to Venezuela and they have not been cooperative and causing troubles for their neighbors, relationship with Cuba troublesome and concerning. Governing in an illiberal way.


532 posted on 01/18/2005 8:26:46 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
She said they want to protect the borders.

She SAYS lots of things, but the Administration's actions say them more clearly.

You disagree with their efforts in that area, but to say they disregard that issue or do nothing is a blatant lie.

Who ever said they "do nothing"???
As far as I'm concerned, these global plutocrats are PRO-ACTIVELY eradicating our borders.
With the goal of undermining the economic prosperity of the American Middle Class, they encourage increased immigration, both legal and illegal. And while our domestic industries remain shackled by excessive regulation and litigation, they encourage the demise of our industrial infrastructure by undermining our industries with imported goods. That's why they're referred to as "free traitors".

533 posted on 01/18/2005 8:27:07 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Johnnyboy2000

Dodd says he appreciates her comments but says it's a two-way street and just repeating historical notes only serves to dig the hole deeper without making progress.

Dodd done and Lugar congratulates him and Chaffee and Nelson on their recent trip.

Sen. Allen up.


534 posted on 01/18/2005 8:28:08 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Bahbah

Go Condi! She's taking Chavez and his actions head-on! Points out the concerns we have with the behavior, his actions with Castro, threats to his neighbors.

Dodd reiterates we have to be diplomatic. (talk ourselves to death with Chavez of course)


535 posted on 01/18/2005 8:28:12 AM PST by prairiebreeze (George W Bush: Spending well-earned political capital.)
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To: prairiebreeze
>>Kerry is there!!!!!

Is he moving? It could be just a cardboard thing.

536 posted on 01/18/2005 8:28:20 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: penelopesire

I see John Effin! Dodd is a petulant little punk.


537 posted on 01/18/2005 8:28:51 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: mombonn

I must be living in an alternate universe. I don't think I've heard the words terrorist, jihadist, Islamic extremist, or war on terror in a good hour.

Have these members forgotten the most pressing national security issues of our time?


538 posted on 01/18/2005 8:29:22 AM PST by Peach (The grill on the hill. The Democrats are toast.)
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To: Peach

Sheesh, do these people ever stay on topic? No wonder they can't get anything done.


539 posted on 01/18/2005 8:30:51 AM PST by jennyjenny
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To: Peach

the committee is going to let the "real" president, Jean F'n handle those issues.


540 posted on 01/18/2005 8:32:15 AM PST by kingattax
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To: jennyjenny

That'a what I was thinking. This whole thing would be reduced to one hour if all they did was just ask questions intead of getting "face time" on t.v.!


541 posted on 01/18/2005 8:32:25 AM PST by CAluvdubya (From the RED part of California)
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To: Willie Green
Who ever said they "do nothing"???

Well, forgive me for misunderstanding YOUR comment:

a blatant refusal to defend and protect our sovereign borders.

542 posted on 01/18/2005 8:32:44 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Dolphy
Now Dodd is talking about a relationship with Chavez who, besides winning under the most suspicious of circumstances, is attacking personal property ownership, free speech, free press, etc.?

And this is surprising? Dodd and Kerry both LOVED the guy in Nicaragua who headed up the Sandinistas -- I forgot his name but I think he's named for a taco shell. They love Communists in general. We need Dick Nixon on this committee!!

543 posted on 01/18/2005 8:33:08 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot)
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To: gopwinsin04
I need a laptop so I can see the TV and type at the same time. ...LOL
544 posted on 01/18/2005 8:34:14 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: You Dirty Rats

His name is Daniel Ortega.


545 posted on 01/18/2005 8:34:56 AM PST by Dog
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To: You Dirty Rats

Ortega..wasn't that his name?


546 posted on 01/18/2005 8:35:13 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: cyncooper

Sorry post #532 isn't very clear. The agreements and state depts refer to South American where Dodd recently travelled and the discussion revolved around our relationship with them. Rice reverted at the end to his bringing up Venezuela and she made it clear that we will not deal with a dictator in the same manner as we deal with a democratically elected leader.

Allen eliciting her expounding on the difference between false propaganda put out by such and Radio Marti where we broadcast the truth in an effort to reach oppressed peoples.


547 posted on 01/18/2005 8:35:24 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Willie Green
With the goal of undermining the economic prosperity of the American Middle Class

Don't worry, we'll all speak in your defense when they try to have you committed -- not because you are sane, but because we like you.

548 posted on 01/18/2005 8:35:40 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot)
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To: Dog

See -- he IS named for a taco!!


549 posted on 01/18/2005 8:36:18 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot)
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To: You Dirty Rats

LMAO


550 posted on 01/18/2005 8:37:16 AM PST by Lovergirl (Proud member of the Pajama Brigade.)
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