Free Republic
Browse · Search
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Colombia/Venezuela Rift: It's not because of Granda
El Tiempo (Colombia), via The Devil's Excrement ^ | Jan. 20, 2005 | Fernando Londoņo Hoyos, translated by Miguel Octavio

Posted on 01/20/2005 6:54:43 PM PST by Kitten Festival

"The Government had to choose between war and shame. They chose shame. They will get war too." -Churchill

The grotesque Granda case would seem to be the cause of our problem with Venezuela in the same way that the war of independence would have been due to the insolence with which the chapeton refused to lend the flower vase to the party to honor Antonio Villavicencio. ...

From the Ministry of Interior and Justice we warned that the key to our relationship with Chavez could be found in the Sao Paulo Forum, and in the communist conspiracy that was being brewed there for the takeover of the Continent.

It was improper to invade someone else’s space, but at least we are consoled by the fact that we did it without subterfuge: Chavez wants to organize for us a coup d’ etat, similar to the one he could have staged in Venezuela with the ballot boxes and he has recently ratified with fraud.

The attempt is an old one. The octogenarian muse of comrade the President (Castro), has had an old appetite for Colombia. When he was a member of the Communist youth, he came to Bogotá to sabotage the Pan-American Conference with the murder of Jorge Eliecer Gaitan. He was already dominated by his geopolitical obsession. That is why he armed the FARC, the ELN, the M-19 and all of the groups of bandits that have whipped the nation with the preaching of a popular revolution.

And now, in that languishing autumn that his friend Gabriel Garcia Marquez predicted for him, he finds that he can revive those dreams of revolution in Colombia.

(Excerpt) Read more at ...

TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bountyhunters; brutal; castro; chavez; colombia; communist; conference; designs; dictator; eliecergaitan; farc; fraud; gaitan; guerrillas; harbor; hugochavez; jimmycarter; jorgeeliecergaitan; jorgegaitan; leftist; marxist; murder; narcotrafficante; paid; plot; sandalista; shelter; stuffedincartrunk; takeover; terror; thugs; venezuela
Translator Miguel Octavio warns us not to be naive. Chavez is a true communist thug trying to take over Colombia. Octavio agrees with this editorial enough to translate it for us. He writes:

Many see the crisis between Venezuela and Colombia as a simple incident, a likely mistake by Chávez in confronting President Uribe, who is likely to be a formidable opponent. I don’t. While I think the Granda case (the FARC guerrilla stuffed in a Caracas car trunk by bounty hunters and taken to Colombia to face justice) may have taken Chavez initially by surprise, I also think once he acted and spoke on the case, it was a well thought out reaction: It is time to export the Bolivarian revolution, we now control Venezuela.

This idea is shared by Fernando Londoño, the former Minister of Interior and Justice of Colombia as shown by his article in El Tiempo a couple of days ago.

1 posted on 01/20/2005 6:54:50 PM PST by Kitten Festival
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Kitten Festival

My own comment: This essay is extremely powerful and well worth reading. It might make you cry. The Colombians get it, they so get it about the nature of Hugo Chavez and all his evil he is spreading throughout the Americas. He is trying to spread Marxist revolution and death all through the hemisphere. This essay is piercingly good.

2 posted on 01/20/2005 7:06:28 PM PST by Kitten Festival (The Thug of Caracas has got to go.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kitten Festival

It's not easy reading because of the translation but read it slowly, the meaning will come very through. I will polish it up and post it here too.

3 posted on 01/20/2005 7:09:59 PM PST by Kitten Festival (The Thug of Caracas has got to go.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Kitten Festival

And for Castro's purposes, he is served by an ignorant charlatan (Hugo Chavez), who lacks any moral scruples, owner of a country lined with gold (oil).

Chavez never read Das Kapital and he would not understand it if he read it, he does not have the give-and-take with a Hegel and his very complex dialectic, and he despises a Feuerbach, not because he objects to his historical materialism, but because he gets tangled up when he pronounces the man's last name.

But he is a communist, he is “Bolivarian”, he has the weapons, the dollars, the flatterers, the cynicism and perhaps the gall to be the perfect instrument for the little Cuban Dictator.

Chavez and Castro know that there are no Dictatorships without weapons. That’s why they love the FARC and that is why they are concerned that we (Colombians) will end up defeating them, as will fatefully occur if a powerful ally dos not come to aid them.


Thus, examining the Granda theme, it gains all of its fabulous importance. It allows Chavez to trick his internal public opinion, as well as take advantage of the incident to pressure his 'anti-patriotic' and 'traitorous' opposition, which is what all tyrants want.

The (Chavez) Deputies, who stood up to applaud his ridiculous speech, will not do so well from today on.

Censorship of the press has found the ideal pretext for the persecution of managers (intelligent responsible people), those 'worms' who buy Colombian products, which will now be done in the name of the 'blemished' sovereignty of Venezuela.

Once the borders open to civilized and creative traffic are closed, they will open widely the doors to the weapons, the bombs, the propaganda and the money to aid the extreme left.

Petrodollars will sprout without shame to back strikes and protests. And the Bolivarian Congresses, with ample delegations from the FARC, will repeat their antics without rest.

The matter at hand is very grave and never has the country been in a bigger danger. But Churchill’s maxim that we remember above fits like a glove.

President Uribe knows it and Colombians will have to surround him (Chavez), without forgetting that we don’t have a conflict with our Venezuelan brothers, victims with us of the sick delirium of the two survivors of a species that many thought extinct: that of the Caribbean Dictator with communist delusions.

4 posted on 01/20/2005 7:18:36 PM PST by Kitten Festival (The Thug of Caracas has got to go.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Kitten Festival
Chaves is like any other Communist despot or totalitarian. He's paranoid of his own people and needs a war to distract them. He'll use this recent Granda case as a lynch pin to start a shooting war or a series of assassinations of his own. If Chaves has the chutzpah to actually kidnap Colombian officials for a trial, it will be in the in same middle-of-the-night fashion that Che Guevera used on blindfolded and gagged prisoners. They were gagged so that they couldn't shout things like "Viva Cristo Rey" before their execution squads.
5 posted on 01/20/2005 7:38:40 PM PST by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SaltyJoe

Well stated. You know what you are talking about. It's clear.

6 posted on 01/20/2005 7:50:50 PM PST by Kitten Festival (The Thug of Caracas has got to go.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Kitten Festival; hchutch; Tailgunner Joe; Clemenza; wardaddy; Commander8; Txcoastman; Caipirabob

Chavez is very wrong if he thinks that he can bust in my country and give it to the FARC for free.

I had to watch his propaganda outlet, Venezolana de Televisión while channel surfing at my dad's house in Barranquilla. It was like watching Cuban TV, I swear!!!

7 posted on 01/20/2005 8:08:04 PM PST by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam; Ernest_at_the_Beach; FairOpinion; ValerieUSA

I'm sure the Organization of American States will get right on it. [rimshot!]

8 posted on 01/20/2005 10:55:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on January 13, 2005)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv; Cuttnhorse; Mo1; null and void

Thank you for the ping -- this is fascinating.
I HATE Castro!

9 posted on 01/21/2005 4:13:37 AM PST by ValerieUSA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Kitten Festival
Thank you for this. Is war imminent between these countries? I imagine President Bush would come to the aid of Columbia and help smack down Venezuela.
10 posted on 01/21/2005 4:33:02 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kitten Festival

Mary Anastasia O'Grady has a very good column about Chavez in today's Wall Street Journal. She concludes it by hoping that Rice will turn her attention to Chavez and try to remedy the earlier consistent bungling by State.

11 posted on 01/21/2005 4:33:21 AM PST by livius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Alas Babylon!

War has already begun, because Venezuela's dictator gives support to the guerrilas (terrorists, allied with the drug cartel) fighting Columbia's gov't.

12 posted on 01/21/2005 7:58:40 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on January 13, 2005)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794 is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson