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Posted on 01/22/2005 5:01:01 AM PST by DoctorZIn
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That's the first intelligent thing David's ever said--and it was a paraphrase.
Translation: "Muslims have a different plan--an Islamic theocracy with the Koran as the constitution and the shariah as national law. If democracy can exist in that context, fine; if it can't, to hell with it."
You might find it interesting what Iranians are saying about Bush's speech.
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Every mischaracterization imaginable. All over the globe Tyrants and their running dogs howl at the moon in response to Bush's great speech.
Agreed!
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"We pass over the silly remarks of the President; for the credit of the nation we are willing that the veil of oblivion shall be dropped over them and that they shall no more be repeated or thought of."--The Harrisburg Patriot"The cheeks of every American must tingle with shame as he reads the silly, flat, and dishwatery utterance."--The Chicago Times
"[T]he ceremony was rendered ludicrous by some of the sallies of that poor President Lincoln... Anything more dull and commonplace it would not be easy to produce."--the Times of London
"We had grown so accustomed to homely and imperfect phrase in his productions that we had come to think it was the law of his utterance."--the Springfield, Illinois, Republican
You mean Clinton and Carter?
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It's that "freedom" thing, yanno. Explain your reasons for what you do or think, and the other guy has the FREEDOM to evaluate for himself.
Why is this so hard for these Euroweenies to understand?
"Critics who were hoping that he would get mired in detail about Iraq were mistaken."His critics are typically mistaken.
"Instead he went back to basics, reaching out to the belief of most Americans in the fundamental importance of freedom and using that to explain his policies at home and abroad."An explanation that comforts and resounds with the wise and decent people of the world (most of us).
"At times it sounded more like a sermon than a speech."Yes, rather like the Gettysburg Address.
"Mr Bush may not be much of a speaker. But sometimes the message is more important than eloquence..."Correction: The message is always more important than eloquence.
"...and what he had to say yesterday had the power of real conviction."Exactly.
Wise words from Ireland's Irish Independent
Sort of Like Abe Lincoln when he said:
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half slave and half free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other. Either the opponents of slavery will arrest the further spread of it and place it where the public mind shall rest in the belief that it is in the course of ultimate extinction, or its advocates will push it forward till it shall become alike lawful in all the states, old as well as new, North as well as South.
Yes! These people at La Razon got the message, but they didn't understand it.
In fact, they said it better than Bush did--and more laconically. Too bad it's beyond their comprehension (and it really isn't difficult to comprehend).
An even better paraphrase is this:
"For the people of the world, there is a choice: liberty or oppression."
...And Europe, if it accedes, will be one of the main beneficiaries.
Now I would like to ask my fellow freepers to pause a moment and consider what these world-wide voices are saying and how they understand what we Americans view as our role in the world.
There is a natural self-defensive tendency to discount what these people are saying. I think that a reflexive denial can be delusional, that's not to say I agree w/ the general sentiment, but rather that we should give their concerns due weight.
Obviously the US cannot impose its will on the whole world, I don't believe that anyone at FR would even want that. That is NOT freedom. But if our rhetoric and our actions signal that we are dividing the world into two mutually exclusive camps of client states and enemies then whether that is our intent or not we have a problem.
WE must understand that the ever more integrated infrastructure and support systems that we are building is frieghtening to many people (people like me). The powers that the state has taken unto itself via the Patriot Act are rightly viewed w/ alarm. Furthermore, there are many things associated w/ this modern world that are, quite frankly, anethima to human happiness and the US is leading the way.
I think those people have every right to be scared.
I think that what the US wants to do is honorable and necessary, but unless we can proceed w/ a proper and truthful modesty that bears witness to the community of nations (I know that's a corny phrase) the end result of all our actions could be terrible and disasterous, both to everyone else and to ourselves.
Let us pause, dear freepers, and think these things through.
Good post. I knew this reaqction was coming. " F/'em, we're going in"!
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