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US Navy to order unique aircraft in Saratov
PRAVDA ^ | 13:12 2004-04-23 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 01/25/2005 9:50:34 AM PST by vannrox

US Navy to order unique aircraft in Saratov

13:12 2004-04-23

The US Navy Department intends to subsidize the development of an advanced Russian aircraft, which will eventually be extinguishing forest fires on US territory. This UFO-shaped flying machine is currently being designed by the Saratov aviation concern.

The Saratov aircraft enterprise, which is located in Russia's Volga region, started assembling UFO-shaped flying machines in the 1990s; however, this R&D project was then moth-balled because of financial snags.

Many aircraft companies all over the world did their best to design similar flying machines. However, Saratov's aircraft designers managed to come with some unusual engineering solutions, also building a flying-saucer mock-up.

Designers managed to overcome vibration being caused by turbulence flows, after opting for the flying-saucer concept; this problem was also solved with the help of some other know-how. This flying machine is called the EKIP (Russian acronym, Ecology and Progress).

Moreover, the hovercraft's special coating enhances lift by 40 percent (with the help of turbulence flows). Consequently, the EKIP's payload accounts for only 40-45 percent of its mass; meanwhile the relevant aircraft ratio is 20-25 percent.

The EKIP boasts some other unique specifications; for example, it can transport 100-ton loads over several thousand km at 500-700 kph and at 8-13-km altitudes. This unique hovercraft can skim along at 160 kph just above the surface.

Many foreign companies had repeatedly suggested establishing a joint venture together with the Saratov factory in the late 1990s; however, the US naval-aviation research center alone offered acceptable terms, the Saratovskiye Vesti newspaper writes.

Specific contract terms were not disclosed. According to the aircraft factory's general director Alexander Yermishin, Russia will retain EKIP copyright. The market will be divided, after batch production gets underway, with the United States paying dividends to Russia for every EKIP aircraft, Yermishin added.

First of all, the US side needs the EKIP remotely piloted aircraft for fighting fires and coping with natural calamities, Yermishin said in conclusion.


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1 posted on 01/25/2005 9:50:36 AM PST by vannrox
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To: vannrox

This I gotta see.


2 posted on 01/25/2005 9:52:15 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: vannrox

Russian concerns aside, why is the USN concerned with fighting forest fires?


3 posted on 01/25/2005 9:54:40 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: vannrox

It's Pravda. 1 part news, 10 parts fiction.


4 posted on 01/25/2005 9:56:39 AM PST by Middle-O-Road (In favor of blowing all terrorists to China, via other hotter places where they'll linger a while.)
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To: vannrox

http://www.ekip-aviation-concern.com/eng-b/1.shtml


5 posted on 01/25/2005 9:58:34 AM PST by Ramonan (Honor does not go out of style.)
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To: vannrox
Found this pic:

Its from "The Russia Journal." I have no idea if they are any more credible than Pravda so, who knows.

6 posted on 01/25/2005 10:00:53 AM PST by Reaganesque
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To: vannrox

Is this what was flying over Area 51? :)


7 posted on 01/25/2005 10:01:38 AM PST by Wiz
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To: vannrox


8 posted on 01/25/2005 10:04:07 AM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Last Dakotan
Russian concerns aside, why is the USN concerned with fighting forest fires?

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

I smell a conspiracy theory in it's incipient stage... You see (ahem) since the Admiralty Court has jurisdiction over all navigable waterways, and the definition of 'navigable' has been stretched to include just about any running water, the Navy has laid claim to pretty much all of America's watersheds, which are usually located in forests (cut me some slack here). Since the forests are therefore in the Navy's jurisdiction, it stands to reason that they're involved in fighting forest fires, and would purchase Russian aircraft for that purpose.

This also means that any running water in your house makes it Navy property - which is why I haven't taken a shower in over 15 years, and have yet to succumb to the government's secret 'mind control through fluoridation' scheme.

9 posted on 01/25/2005 10:06:23 AM PST by Hoplite
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To: Middle-O-Road
It's Pravda. 1 part news, 10 parts fiction.

Oh, you mean like the LAT, NYT and WP......;^)

10 posted on 01/25/2005 10:07:30 AM PST by elbucko (Feral Republican)
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To: Ramonan
Looks like its a version of the blended wing and body concept. Boeing has a far more elegant concept plane but they haven't built it yet. Check it out:


11 posted on 01/25/2005 10:07:47 AM PST by Reaganesque
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To: Last Dakotan
Russian concerns aside, why is the USN concerned with fighting forest fires?

Reading the article indicates that is not their concern.

"Moreover, the hovercraft's special coating enhances lift by 40 percent (with the help of turbulence flows). Consequently, the EKIP's payload accounts for only 40-45 percent of its mass; meanwhile the relevant aircraft ratio is 20-25 percent"

12 posted on 01/25/2005 10:09:50 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Hoplite

US Army corps has already snagged the power you describe over navigible inland waterways and beyond.


13 posted on 01/25/2005 10:12:40 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (GO PATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Reaganesque
Hmm, link must have broken. Let's try another.


14 posted on 01/25/2005 10:14:14 AM PST by Reaganesque
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To: Dark Skies
Given enough power, you can even make a lawnmower fly!


15 posted on 01/25/2005 10:19:19 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Reaganesque

They look like variations on the old "flying wing" theme.


16 posted on 01/25/2005 10:19:41 AM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Shhh... I'm just letting the Navy identify all the obtainable real estate before I march up to the SecNav, show him my Fort Lost in the Woods 12B diploma and take what's rightfully mine, per OPLAN "SWABBIE"

That was the Army Corps of Engineers you were referring to, btw

17 posted on 01/25/2005 10:20:00 AM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

18 posted on 01/25/2005 10:24:57 AM PST by monkapotamus
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To: Hoplite
"...and have yet to succumb to the government's secret 'mind control through fluoridation' scheme."

General Jack D. Ripper: Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children's ice cream.
Group Captain Lionel Mandrake: Lord, Jack.
Ripper: You know when fluoridation first began?
Mandrake: Aye, no, no. I don't Jack.
Ripper: Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? Its incredibly obvious isn't it. A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.
Mandrake: Uh, Jack, Jack, listen, tell me, tell me, Jack. When did you first...become...well, develop this theory?
Ripper: Well, I, uh...I...I...first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love.
Mandrake: Hmm.
Ripper: Yes, a uh, a profound sense of fatigue...a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I...I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence.
Mandrake: Hmm.
Ripper: I can assure you that it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women uh...women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, Mandrake.
Mandrake: No.
Ripper: But I...I do deny them my essence.

19 posted on 01/25/2005 10:25:49 AM PST by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmändø (EMØØK))
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To: Reaganesque
Man. . .I'd hate to be seated in the outer rows. . .imagine the up-down movement when it turns. . .even I would feel a bit queasy in that thing as I pitched up and down at least 15' for every little turn.
20 posted on 01/25/2005 10:26:21 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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To: Yo-Yo

Here ya go :

http://www.flymo.com/node80.asp?prodid=8&img=


21 posted on 01/25/2005 10:29:26 AM PST by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: Yo-Yo
Anything will fly provided a sufficient amount of explosives.

Sinister

22 posted on 01/25/2005 10:29:51 AM PST by Reaganesque
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To: vannrox

Why does it have to be UFO-shaped?


23 posted on 01/25/2005 10:44:00 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Teacher317

Been there, done that in the first part of the last century!

http://www.mozeyoninn.com/Ginter/NAVAL/NF21.htm


24 posted on 01/25/2005 10:55:16 AM PST by Woodworker
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To: cweese

You gotta wonder how well a lawnmower that is blowing air down into the grass instead of sucking air up from the grass actually cuts.

You also gotta wonder what happens when you hit a high spot...


25 posted on 01/25/2005 11:25:13 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Hoplite

good thinking.


26 posted on 01/25/2005 12:02:40 PM PST by kinsman redeemer (the real enemy seeks to devour what is good)
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To: BlueLancer

LOL! one of the greatest comedic sequences in the history of the movies!

don't know how to post pics, but check out the following:

http://www.briansdriveintheater.com/beefcake/sterlinghayden30.jpg

The Pic, I believe, captures the exact moment and reaction of Sellers when Ripper hit him with the 'essence' remark.


27 posted on 01/25/2005 12:09:55 PM PST by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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To: Hoplite
That was the Army Corps of Engineers you were referring to, btw

I know. You are supposed to know what I meant to say, but not actually say.

28 posted on 01/26/2005 6:35:15 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (GO PATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Reaganesque
Check it out:

COOOL! A square aircraft with a little red x-shaped cockpit window! COOOOOOL!

29 posted on 01/26/2005 6:40:39 AM PST by Lazamataz (I still choose to hyperventilate.)
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To: Reaganesque

Now that one was actually cool.


30 posted on 01/26/2005 6:41:14 AM PST by Lazamataz (I still choose to hyperventilate.)
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To: 68skylark

May be a chance for reverse engineering??


31 posted on 01/26/2005 6:44:16 AM PST by halfright (9/11 3,000 Americans Murdered...Payback is a bitch)
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