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Norte O Gangs Moving North
Pioneer Press- Ft. Jones, Ca. | Jan. 26, 2005 | Barry R. Clausen

Posted on 01/26/2005 12:33:44 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage

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He also reused his line about "family values not stopping at the Rio Grande".

In other words Bush has no intention of ever controlling the borders no matter how much pressure from the American people is put on him.

21 posted on 01/26/2005 1:15:25 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Sam the Sham
Red bandana, blue bandana ? Aren't those the old Crips and Bloods insignia from the 80's ?

Yes they are. From the streets of Compton to cells of San Quintin/Folsom and then back to the barrios of East LA and then on to Northern California when the shacks in the barrios were bringing $350K in California's sellers market making their owners relatively wealthy and mobile.

22 posted on 01/26/2005 1:20:48 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: JustAnotherSavage

IMO this is very racist. Why are asians being arrested when mexicans are free to move about the country. I hope the ACLU steps up to bat and puts a end to this. If mexicans are allowed to live and work here then the rest of the world should be treated equally. Anything else goes against everything America stands for.


23 posted on 01/26/2005 1:26:01 PM PST by winodog (I am gonna stop calling them liberals. They are humanists. Liberal is actually a good word)
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To: winodog

Curious, to say the least, winodog.


24 posted on 01/26/2005 1:34:33 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: investigateworld; All

Yes, it's old news to people who live around it, but the rest of the country seems oblivious. Here's some more.
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The multibillion-dollar Mexican cartels have discovered it's safer and more profitable to grow marijuana in the United States than to try to smuggle it across the border, he said. Instead, they're often importing guards and handing them firearms with orders to shoot at anyone coming by.

They're also branching into methamphetamine production, often using what authorities have dubbed "super labs." And this summer authorities for the first time discovered 40,000 opium poppies growing in a remote area of the Sierra National Forest bordering Yosemite National Park. The poppy plants originated in Mexico, Drug Enforcement Administration spokesman Richard Meyer said Monday.

Three-fourths of the marijuana gardens discovered by California authorities this year were on public lands like state and national parks and forests. As recently as 2001, the majority of plants were seized from private land.

California's recent harvest season was one of the most violent in years.

In just one deadly week in September, law enforcement officials in Northern California fatally shot four armed guards protecting marijuana plantations. San Luis Obispo County sheriff's deputies were shot at as they entered a garden; a hunter walking near a marijuana grove in Los Padres National Forest was shot at by three men armed with automatic weapons, and guards tending a Ventura County garden shot at a backcountry hunter.

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http://www.theava.com/03/1224-marijuana.html


25 posted on 01/26/2005 1:40:42 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


26 posted on 01/26/2005 1:41:09 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker; NormsRevenge; blackeagle; newzjunkey; RightWhale; nonliberal; abigail2; ...

More on this subject:


A Pot Farm May Be Coming To Your Local Park Soon

POSTED: 4:32 pm PST November 4, 2004
UPDATED: 1:41 am PST November 5, 2004

SAN JOSE -- The war on drugs, is no longer concentrated solely along our borders, it's now in our own backyard.

In places such as Santa Clara County where hundreds of marijuana plants were recently discovered tucked away in Joseph Grant County Park near the foothills of East San Jose.


"This isn't some kids planting a few pot plants in the park, this is a big scale production," said Dave Darren, of the Bureau of Narcotics Enforcement.---snip
http://www.ktvu.com/station/3891621/detail.html


27 posted on 01/26/2005 1:46:56 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: Sam the Sham
One of their identifying pieces of clothing is... a San Francisco 49ers bomber jacket

C'mon. How tough can they be?

28 posted on 01/26/2005 1:54:19 PM PST by skeeter (OBL "Americans" won't honor any law that interferes with their pocketbooks)
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To: JustAnotherSavage
In just one deadly week in September, law enforcement officials in Northern California fatally shot four armed guards protecting marijuana plantations<<

We are now officially a banana republic.
30 posted on 01/26/2005 1:55:44 PM PST by hushpad (Come on baby. . .Don't fear the FReeper. . .)
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To: Amerigomag; FITZ; All

More:
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Small-time entrepreneurs have been joined by drug gangs, many from Mexico.

"This is about big, big money," says John Gaines, a special agent. "This is about making a profit, taking the profit out of the United States, taking it back to Mexico. This is organized crime, bottom line." ---snip

http://election.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/02/05/60II/main269478.shtml

In October, Gaines and officers from the state narcotics bureau finished a three-year investigation that culminated in the arrests of 41 people, all allegedly working for the Maganyas, a Mexican crime family. The Maganyas have realized over five years a profit estimated at $40 million to $50 million, he says.


31 posted on 01/26/2005 1:56:49 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: skeeter

Weren't Oakland Raiders jackets gang insignia way back before Ice Cube turned into Bill Cosby ?


32 posted on 01/26/2005 1:59:04 PM PST by Sam the Sham
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MORE, from the government.....
http://reform.house.gov/EPNRRA/Hearings/EventSingle.aspx?EventID=467


October 10, 2003 - Drug Production on Public Lands - A Growing Problem
108th Congress

Friday, October 10, 2003 10:00 AM

Drug Production on Public Lands - A Growing Problem
Witness Testimony
Witness List
Testimony of Richard Martin (DOI/NPS)
Testimony of Arthur Gaffrey, Forest Supervisor (USDA/FS)
Testimony of Stephen Delgado, (DOJ/DEA)
Testimony of Lisa Mulz (California Department of Parks and Recreation)
Testimony of Val Jiminez (California Bureau of Narcotic Enforcement)
Testimony of Joe Fontaine (Wilderness Watch)

 
Welcome to the beautiful Sequoia National Park. We are here today to examine the alarming increase of illegal drug production in our National parks and forests.

Over a century ago, the National Park Service and the U.S. Forest Service were created to protect our Nation’s most pristine and historic lands for the enjoyment of Americans today, and for the enjoyment of the generations yet to come. We are here today because that very mission is threatened by rampant illegal drug cultivation on our public lands.

Lands that were once the epitome of natural beauty have become large-scale marijuana farms and toxic waste sites. Terraced hillsides and cannabis plants have replaced lush trees and foliage. Plastic irrigation tubing has overrun bubbling brooks and streams. And, human waste and litter have covered the organic forest floor. Yet, this is only part of the problem. Visitors, naturalists, and rangers, who were once able to roam the lands freely, are now in grave danger of being injured or killed by marijuana growers armed with AK-47s, handguns, and machetes.

For years, relatively small illegal drug operations have existed on our national lands. After September 11, 2001, however, our border security tightened significantly, and drug smugglers reacted by moving drug production from Mexico to the United States. --snip


33 posted on 01/26/2005 2:01:05 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: JustAnotherSavage

All sarcastic of course.


34 posted on 01/26/2005 2:08:33 PM PST by winodog (I am gonna stop calling them liberals. They are humanists. Liberal is actually a good word)
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To: Sam the Sham
Yep, Raiders merchandise used to be de riguer 'cause gang members liked being associated with fearsome images.

Evidently thats no longer the case...

35 posted on 01/26/2005 2:09:11 PM PST by skeeter (OBL "Americans" won't honor any law that interferes with their pocketbooks)
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To: JustAnotherSavage
Welcome to the beautiful Sequoia National Park. We are here today to examine the alarming increase of illegal drug production in our National parks and forests.<<

Someone tell me if I need tinfoil, but didn't CLINTON shut down access roads a bunch of our forests and parks?

Maybe the former Pres. knew about this, made it easy for them under "environmental Concerns", and is even now living off of the kick-backs. I'm serious. What about gray davis, could he have turned a blind eye?
36 posted on 01/26/2005 2:12:35 PM PST by hushpad (Come on baby. . .Don't fear the FReeper. . .)
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To: passionfruit

Hey Passionfruit, are you sure you want to move to Klamath? Sounds like you may have some very enterprising neighbors.


37 posted on 01/26/2005 2:13:39 PM PST by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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To: skeeter

Are these new gangs going to make the Crips and the Bloods and NWA and Public Enemy and "Straight Outta Compton" and Easy E and "Boyz in the Hood" seem quaint ?


38 posted on 01/26/2005 2:14:39 PM PST by Sam the Sham
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Could we give 'em one of them Canadian Mad Cows?

I'd like to see 'em saddle-up one of them pist-off cows!!!

39 posted on 01/26/2005 2:28:19 PM PST by SierraWasp (Moderates, are just too chicken to commit to any ideal!!! They prefer sophisticated sophistry...)
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To: Sam the Sham
Are these new gangs going to make the Crips and the Bloods and NWA and Public Enemy and "Straight Outta Compton" and Easy E and "Boyz in the Hood" seem quaint ?

Maybe, but on the other hand picking a 2-13 team as a mascot can't exactly be putting the fear o' God into 'em, either.

40 posted on 01/26/2005 2:29:42 PM PST by skeeter (OBL "Americans" won't honor any law that interferes with their pocketbooks)
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