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Tollway funding is question of control
Fort Worth Star-Telegram ^ | Tue, Jan. 25, 2005 | Gordon Dickson

Posted on 01/26/2005 5:06:47 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Dog Gone

"What "proprietary information" is involved in a road project? That's just weird."


I think it involves Cintra's ability to come up with innovate ways to shaft the drivers of Texas.

We'll all find out - soon enough.


41 posted on 01/30/2005 12:56:27 PM PST by BobL
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To: BobL
That link doesn't work for me. Perhaps it's because the Statesman requires registration and won't permit a direct link.

(I am registered there, incidentally, but since I'm on a new computer I probably don't have the cookie to permit access)

42 posted on 01/30/2005 1:05:51 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

Sorry for the trouble - here it is (note that it is a month old):


Perry defends aide's work for road firm
Shelley's appointment resurrects questions about Perry's staff and businesses


By Jason Embry

AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF

Thursday, December 30, 2004

Gov. Rick Perry's office on Wednesday defended Legislative Director Dan Shelley's recent role with a company that has won a major road contract with the state.

The Dallas Morning News reported that Shelley was a consultant for Spanish tollway operator Cintra until three months before the Texas Transportation Commission chose the company to lead construction of the first phase of the Trans-Texas Corridor. Shelley, a former legislator, was a government affairs consultant who was scheduled to be paid if the company won the contract, but he gave up his rights to that money when he went to work for Perry in September.

The commission awarded the contract to Cintra on Dec. 16.

Shelley's relationship with companies seeking state business also drew headlines nearly a decade ago. After Shelley left then-Gov. George W. Bush's office in 1996, he lobbied for Lockheed Martin Corp., which competed for a contract to help the government implement changes in the welfare system. As Bush's legislative liaison, he had helped guide into law the legislation creating that contract.

Perry has been criticized previously because a high-level staff member moved back and forth to the lobby. Mike Toomey, his former chief of staff, returned to his work as a lobbyist after leaving Perry's office and now is a registered representative for nine clients, according to the Texas Ethics Commission.

Perry spokesman Robert Black said the governor's office had no role in selecting Cintra to build the corridor. He said that Shelley's role with Cintra was to help the company determine whether it wanted to do business in Texas, where it had never worked before, and that he did not lobby for Cintra.

Perry prohibits staff members from lobbying his office for a year plus one legislative session after they leave. Shelley lobbied for other clients before joining Perry's staff. Perry does not require lobbyists to wait a certain amount of time before they go to work for him.

Suzy Woodford, executive director of Common Cause in Texas, said Perry should avoid situations that appear to make his staff beholden to businesses.

"You can't legislate every ethic, everything to preclude this kind of situation," she said. "You really have to have people in leadership positions that say, 'I don't think this passes the smell test, and so I'm not going to hire this person.'"

Shelley's experience highlights the close ties that often exist among lobbyists, state officials and businesses. Two of his recent lobbying clients, for instance, Lockheed Martin and ACS State & Local Solutions, are helping underwrite a reception for Perry in Washington next month.

The Morning News reported that Shelley began consulting for Cintra in December 2003, about three months after the company was named one of three possible contractors for the corridor. When Shelley joined Perry's staff nine months later, his lobbying firm did not take over the Cintra contract.

The corridor plan is Perry's long-term vision to build 4,000 miles of toll roads, rail and utility lines across Texas. A consortium led by Cintra plans to build and pay for a $6 billion turnpike from San Antonio to north of Dallas. The companies will throw in $1.2 billion for other state transportation projects as part of the 50-year deal, during which it will keep toll revenues.

Ed Pensock, director of corridor development for the state transportation department, said the governor's office had no role in the selection of the Cintra-led group. Department employees recommended that group to transportation commissioners.

Shelley joined Bush's staff in 1995. A few months after he left Bush's office, he began lobbying for Lockheed Martin, which was vying for a $2 billion state contract that ultimately was never awarded.

Black, who said Shelley was not giving interviews Wednesday, said Perry chose him because of his experience as a lawmaker and an aide to Bush and because he has a good relationship with the Legislature.

"Gov. Perry has hired individuals who have vast experience in particular areas, whether they be policy or press or legal, and his goal is to get the best and brightest in here," he said.


43 posted on 01/30/2005 5:09:14 PM PST by BobL
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To: BobL

Shelley may not have any current ties to Cintra, but I'd be curious to see if his bank account has had any recent large deposits.


44 posted on 01/31/2005 10:34:05 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

Most people are smart enough to avoid things like that.

But maybe the yacht and airplane parked in his front lawn will give it away.


45 posted on 01/31/2005 2:45:50 PM PST by BobL
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Interview (Audio) NPR | February 8, 2005 A Superhighway for Texas?
46 posted on 02/09/2005 7:45:34 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Dog Gone
Free roads are an illusion. Somebody has to pay for them. If it's those who actually use them, that's probably more fair than most government programs. You'll pay for them one way or another. The difference is that trucking firm from Chicago or Portland will be helping to pay for the roads they use to make their profits.

Answer: Adjust the gas tax. It is a user fee for which people who drive more, pay more. It is also a fee people across the state will pay, not just in the cities like Austin and Houston. A gas tax increase -if needed, is equitable and fair and will be paid by all who transit the State as well as the locals.

47 posted on 03/13/2005 8:06:04 PM PST by MarshallDillon (Texas is a RINO-circus and Governor Perry is wearing leotards in center ring.)
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Answer: Adjust the gas tax. It is a user fee for which people who drive more, pay more. It is also a fee people across the state will pay, not just in the cities like Austin and Houston.

So this "Plan" we are all waiting patiently to see will be to charge rural Texans for your road??? Isn't that socialism????
48 posted on 03/18/2005 10:35:56 PM PST by Deek
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To: Deek
So this "Plan" we are all waiting patiently to see will be to charge rural Texans for your road??? Isn't that socialism????

Not any more socialist than people in Midland driving on State highways funded with my and your gas tax. Whats the difference? I'm not asking for anything.

49 posted on 03/20/2005 3:47:35 PM PST by MarshallDillon (Texas is a RINO-circus and Governor Perry is wearing leotards in center ring.)
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Not any more socialist than people in Midland driving on State highways funded with my and your gas tax. Whats the difference? I'm not asking for anything.

*laugh* It my be "no more socialist", but it's still socialist. Tolling is the most fair way to fund these roads: I get to choose if I want to pay for the road (by paying a toll). The government doesn't dictate whether I must pay for some huge new project (like you and I are paying for the High-5 in Dallas).

The gas tax is fine for maintaining roads, but wouldn't you rather have a choice (through tolls) whether you want to pay for a road? Why do you object to me having a choice whether I want to py 75 cents to cut my comute by 30 minutes?
50 posted on 03/20/2005 4:04:15 PM PST by Deek
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To: ken21
Seems to me this can be done without the "outsourcing." Come on Zachry, step up to the plate and kick the foreigners to the curb.

Trajan88; TAMU Class of '88

51 posted on 03/20/2005 4:11:10 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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tell that to governor perry.

he and his staff pushed thru' cintra, a spanish firm.

cintra has a notorious record of high prices in canada and in california on the 91 freeway (now sold).


52 posted on 03/20/2005 4:23:43 PM PST by ken21 ( if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. (/s))
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To: ken21
Perry is a Texas Aggie former student; the Zachry family bleeds maroon.

Time to bring on the Fighting Farmer lobby... to halt the bad karma that surrounds the land of the burnt orange (aka Austin).

Trajan88; TAMU Class of '88

53 posted on 03/20/2005 6:58:59 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Deek

What's wrong with the model that built the state roads we drive on today? 17 cents a mile is like a $3.40 per gallon TAX. A 5-10 cent/gal tax will more than pay for the roads we need. Whats the source of your audit figures? I would honestly like to read them. If you are right, then I'll switch sides on the issue.

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54 posted on 03/20/2005 9:25:52 PM PST by MarshallDillon (Texas is a RINO-circus and Governor Perry is wearing leotards in center ring.)
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To: MarshallDillon
What's wrong with the model that built the state roads we drive on today?

My objection is that the current system is socialized: I must help pay for the roads you drive, and you must help pay for mine. How would we feel if Houston was about to speed a few hundred million on roads, and your and my gas tax was going to be doubled to pay for it?

17 cents a mile is like a $3.40 per gallon TAX.

That is a mischarictarization at best. 17 cents a mile is what most urban roads cost with typical traffic, assuming the road is ONLY paid for by users, and not socialized to make the poor folks in Midland pay for your road. Gas tax is what you charge everyone else to pay for your road if you don't have enough personal responsibility to pay for it yourself. "Pay for what you use, and only what you use."

A 5-10 cent/gal tax will more than pay for the roads we need.

It would, but once again it is not fair to tax the entire state for our road(s). How excited are you about raising gas taxes to build roads in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, etc. In order to be fair, all toll roads in Houston and Dallas should be socialized, and your gas taxes raised to support those roads also.

Whats the source of your audit figures? I would honestly like to read them. If you are right, then I'll switch sides on the issue.

Not sure about the audit figure you are referring to. Could you clarify?

Finally, could you please explain to me why you object to me having the option of paying 75 cents to cut 45 minutes off of my commute??? I truly don't understand.
55 posted on 03/21/2005 9:56:20 PM PST by Deek
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To: Dog Gone
The difference is that trucking firm from Chicago or Portland will be helping to pay for the roads they use to make their profits.

No, consumers will pay because the the additional transportation costs will be included in the cost of goods.

They will not pay for it out of their "profits"
56 posted on 03/21/2005 10:00:55 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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